Saorsat question,

mbutler2007

Saorsat question,

If i get a satellite and have a mpeg 4 TV can i plug the feed form the satellite directly into the tv and get the Saorview channels?

Anyone done this or now a photo or diagram of this

Thanks

Apogee

No, your TV will have a DVB-T (digital terrestrial) tuner, while Saorsat will require a DVB-S2 (satellite) tuner.

Opinicus

Sorry to hijack.
Is saorsat up and running yet?
What's the point of having saorview and saorsat as transmission services? surely saorsat would have done on it's own?

mbutler2007

Thanks Apogee The boy in curryes told me i could but i wasn’t convinced

Thanks

evilivor

Opinicus wrote: »

Sorry to hijack.
Is saorsat up and running yet?
What's the point of having saorview and saorsat as transmission services? surely saorsat would have done on it's own?

Not everyone has a satellite dish.

Opinicus

I know that but with a lot of people just shelling out for saorview boxes anyway it just seems kind of redundant.

Access

And when saorsat comes... will we be able to get sat boxes that have the free satellite channels (bbc's/itv's etc.) as well as the saorview channels in one EPG?

That would be handy and probably what i would wait for.

asif2011

Most people will use Saorview. Saorsat is a last resort and you won't be able to combine Freesat and Saorsat together.

The Cush

Opinicus wrote: »

Is saorsat up and running yet?
What's the point of having saorview and saorsat as transmission services? surely saorsat would have done on it's own?

Saorsat expected to launch in early 2012 as stated by RTÉ and in various Dáil replies to questions.

Regarding the abandoning of the terrestrial network, this from a Dáil Committee discussion in Jul 2010 with RTÉ and the BAI

Deputy Jimmy Devins: I welcome all the witnesses and will be brief. Although I am not into technology in a big way, if I understand this correctly, the stopping of analogue transmission, which is one system, will result in its replacement by two systems, namely, DTT and satellite. The advantage of using the latter is to cover the 2% to 3% who will not be covered by DTT. Why not simply use the single system of satellite transmission to provide 100% coverage? Why must one go down the DTT route?
...

[not answered directly but Bob Collins did make the following reply later]

Mr. Bob Collins: ... Throughout the debate on this issue during the past eight or ten years, a key underlying point of public policy has been that the State should have an Irish-owned transmission system to carry the four national channels, one that would not be dependent on external economic circumstances or an external force. Hence the necessity of a domestic transmission system. The satellite option does everything mentioned by Mr. Hayes, namely, extending coverage and providing a back-up, but one could not dispense with DTT by virtue of the availability of satellite because, in the last analysis, the satellite option is not within the control of the State.

http://debates.oireachtas.ie/DDebate.aspx?F=MAJ20100714.XML&Ex=All&Page=1

Discussed previously - http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056010275

Opinicus

makes sense now alright

watty

asif2011 wrote: »

Most people will use Saorview. Saorsat is a last resort and you won't be able to combine Freesat and Saorsat together.

Not quite true. Suitable equipment can economically combine four satellites including Freesat and Saorsat if the receiver has Diseqc. (put Sky/Freesat's 28.2E on 1st connection and then when Diseqc isn't used the UK channels work)

Each satellite does need a separate LNBF, but a suitable dish can be shared.

see http://www.saortv.info/satellite-saorsat/saorsat-reception/

asif2011

watty wrote: »

Not quite true. Suitable equipment can economically combine four satellites including Freesat and Saorsat if the receiver has Diseqc. (put Sky/Freesat's 28.2E on 1st connection and then when Diseqc isn't used the UK channels work)

Each satellite does need a separate LNBF, but a suitable dish can be shared.

see http://www.saortv.info/satellite-saorsat/saorsat-reception/

Sorry I meant in the same EPG, answering the post above mine... should have been clearer

Any word on weather Saorsat will suffer the same missing EPG that Freesat does?

excollier

What epg is Freesat missing? The epg on my Freesat never went missing.
Works perfectly, always has. Do you speak from experience?

watty

It's possible by at least two methods to have a combined EPG. The UK & Irish Governments have commited to "interworking".

One method is a "Postcode" and Irish EPG info (only) actually transmitted on Freesat. The other method is a change to the Freesat software in the box.

There is an unofficial channel editor for Humax.

asif2011

excollier wrote: »

What epg is Freesat missing? The epg on my Freesat never went missing.
Works perfectly, always has. Do you speak from experience?

What box have you got? I was looking at videos of the Saorview/Freesat combo boxes on TVTrade.ie and all 3 of them when he has tuned the stations in can browse the 7 day EPG on Saorview but none of the stations using Freesat have an EPG...

evilivor

asif2011 wrote: »

What box have you got? I was looking at videos of the Saorview/Freesat combo boxes on TVTrade.ie and all 3 of them when he has tuned the stations in can browse the 7 day EPG on Saorview but none of the stations using Freesat have an EPG...

There are no Saorview/Freesat combo boxes - there are Saorview/free to air combo boxes but Freesat receivers all have their own proprietary Freesat 8 day EPG.

maggy_thatcher

The Cush wrote: »

Mr. Bob Collins wrote:

but one could not dispense with DTT by virtue of the availability of satellite because, in the last analysis, the satellite option is not within the control of the State

That's just because the State is too cheap/broke to buy its own satellite

asif2011

evilivor wrote: »

There are no Saorview/Freesat combo boxes - there are Saorview/free to air combo boxes but Freesat receivers all have their own proprietary Freesat 8 day EPG.

So you need a dedicated certified Freesat box to get the EPG?

Apogee

The (trial) Saorsat EPG is in the same format as the Saorview EPG, so you can can combine either with the Freesat EPG on a Linux based receiver.

See here:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72472797#post72472797

excollier

asif2011 wrote: »

So you need a dedicated certified Freesat box to get the EPG?

Yes, otherwise it's a generic satellite receiver, most likely, with no 7 day epg.
I have a Humax Foxsat Freesat HDR, twin tuner pvr. The best kit for Freesat available.