Question relating to milldot scope

pancuronium

Ok I’ve been looking around the web relating to a hawke reflex 4x12x50 scope & looking for information relating to the mill dots on the scope maybe someone here can help me.

I've got a hawke reflex 4x12x50 on a CZ452 & was hoping that someone may be able to help me figure out what the correct "zoom" on the scope should be to = 1mm between mill dots?

Next question is if my rifle is zero @ 50m is there a way for me to tell which mill dot should be lined up @ 75m 100m etc

Apologies if this sounds confusing but it has my head melted lol

If you’re as confused as I am I can try re-word this post if necessary.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

kildare.17hmr

Normally one of the numbers is in a different colour, usually red, and thats the power to have it on to calculate size/distance. Have you checked their website it might be there?

Nothing confusing about your post at all man.

Get out and shoot as many rounds as you can at different ranges, you wont be long about getting to now your drops!

pancuronium

checked there site couldn't see much there.......... Also checked the scope but no differevnce in any of the No's on the scope

kildare.17hmr

Iv a mildot scope too and their is no difference on the numbers, i bought mine new and it said in the manual it was 10 power. Im sure one of the other lads will know for sure r has had one and will know. failing that off to a dealers and ask if they know or email hawke

pancuronium

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

Iv a mildot scope too and their is no difference on the numbers, i bought mine new and it said in the manual it was 10 power. Im sure one of the other lads will know for sure r has had one and will know. failing that off to a dealers and ask if they know or email hawke

Good idea will see what the other lads say & fail that will email hawke

if the mill dots on the scope are representative of 3.6" @ 100m does it make sence that they would be 1.8" @ 50m zero or am i overlooking something? does the zero point even come into the equasion?

Merch

pancuronium wrote: »

Good idea will see what the other lads say & fail that will email hawke

if the mill dots on the scope are representative of 3.6" @ 100m does it make sence that they would be 1.8" @ 50m zero or am i overlooking something? does the zero point even come into the equasion?

Any documents with the scope?, try the hawke website? also saw this the other day, about halfway down there is an article on mil dot. http://www.optics-trade.eu/shop/en/

pancuronium

Merch wrote: »

Any documents with the scope?, try the hawke website? also saw this the other day, about halfway down there is an article on mil dot. http://www.optics-trade.eu/shop/en/

Unfortunately I don’t have any docs on the scope so decided on the next best thing Here lol

Merch

pancuronium wrote: »

Unfortunately I don’t have any docs on the scope so decided on the next best thing Here lol

I found a manual online for a scope before, and other stuff.
cant thing what site was called, free manuals for all kinds of stuff, if i remember I will update, but try googling it maybe?

Goosie

As there is no diff in any of the numbers on your scope, true mildot power is prob 12x.
A good way to check is to draw 5 horizontal parallel lines 0.9" apart for a total spacing of 3.6" on a sheet of paper
Set the sheet of paper up @ 25yds and put the crosshair on the top line. Change the scope power until the centre of the 1st mildot down is being cut by the 1st line down. This is your true mildot power setting.
To Check move the paper out to 50yds. The 1st mildot down should now be cut by the 2nd line down.
Move the paper out to 100yds. The first mildot down should now be cut by the 4th line down.
True mildots are 3.6" apart centre to centre @ 100yds.
Hope this helps but take it slow as it takes a while to get your head around it, well it did for me anyhow.

Merch

whats the exact name and number of the scope?

pancuronium

Merch wrote: »

whats the exact name and number of the scope?

hawke reflex 4x12x50 is the only info i can see on the scope I have it a few years now and never really bothered with the milldots just taught its about time i looked into what they mean

Cass

Goosie wrote: »

As there is no diff in any of the numbers on your scope, true mildot power is prob 12x..

+1. Most scopes i've seen/used, unless stated otherwise, use the top mag setting for ranging.

Davidcardiff

hawke uses 10x for mildot scopes with the exception of their 1/2 mildot which is either 10x or 20x depending on scope power and model

sfakiaman

Hawke have a Ballistic Reticle Calculator you can download free from their website. It will give you all the info you need but as every rifle/ammo combination is different you will still need to check it out on paper for fine tuning.

pancuronium

sfakiaman wrote: »

Hawke have a Ballistic Reticle Calculator you can download free from their website. It will give you all the info you need but as every rifle/ammo combination is different you will still need to check it out on paper for fine tuning.

Exactly what i'm looking for thanks a mill lads.

browning 12 bore

i have a swift 6 24 50 mill dots very handy on my 243 at 100 yards she is bang on on and at 200 yards she is 1 mil dot down and 300 yards 2 mil dots down and so on and something in very close 40 to 50 yards 1 mil dot high cause your bullet has not risen yet and one of the otehr lads gave great bit of advice get out there and shoot different ranges wont be long before you get it good luck

pancuronium

Thanks again lads!!!

one more quick question is ED Value & Ballistic Coefficient (BC) the same thing?

De_Tomaso

Hawke Mil-Dot reticles are normally accurate at 10x or at 20x if so stated.

ED value is Hawke interpretation of Ballistic Coefficient, they call it "effective deterioration". You can read more about this on Hawke web page.


If you are interested more about the use of mil-dots I can point you to the following article: http://www.optics-trade.eu/shop/en/articles/miliradians/