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Sean Quinn still has 11k in bank

  • 16-11-2011 9:09am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭


    Can Anglo Irish not take this 11k Sean Quinn has left? Why should he be allowed to keep it if he's bankrupt?

    I bet there's a lot more hidden


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭fliball123


    JohnnyTodd wrote: »
    Can Anglo Irish not take this 11k Sean Quinn has left? Why should he be allowed to keep it if he's bankrupt?

    I bet there's a lot more hidden

    Sure he sold everything to his kids for a pittence no legislation for this its a disgrace if anyone sees this man in the street he should be given a left hook


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 41,229 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    fliball123 wrote: »
    if anyone sees this man in the street he should be given a left hook
    ...and who would be the one in trouble then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭fliball123


    kbannon wrote: »
    ...and who would be the one in trouble then?

    Do it gurilla style balaclava and then say it was your kid :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    I think he also has a couple of laptops. They must be worth a pretty penny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭flutered


    GetWithIt wrote: »
    I think he also has a couple of laptops. They must be worth a pretty penny.

    naw your are wrong, i bet he has a couple of hard drives that are worth more than a few bob.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    GetWithIt wrote: »
    I think he also has a couple of laptops. They must be worth a pretty penny.

    Swapped a multi million pound company for one of them. Must be some laptop:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,573 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭GetWithIt


    mickdw wrote: »
    Swapped a multi million pound company for one of them. Must be some laptop:eek:
    Must have been new iPad so. Geez, the standard of reporting in this country is shocking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    more than i've got

    Same here. And he gets to keep the home and car doesn't he?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,892 ✭✭✭Head The Wall


    He reckons a 2004 Mercedes s600 is worth 4k, that seems very cheap even for the UK


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,537 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/i-have-just-euro11169-in-the-bank-says-sean-quinn-2935669.html

    Mr Quinn accepts that he owes around €194m to Anglo for property loans that he cannot repay.

    Can I do that? Please.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,336 ✭✭✭Mr.Micro


    I dont believe a word of Quinn,s claim about the 11k. One of the Golden circle I do believe. We are all eejits when it comes to his type. No doubt the boys in NAMA will look after him and give him a good salary plus bonuses. I have a word for him, starts with c and ends with k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 327 ✭✭jc84


    he's scum


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    settle down, he meant "bread bin", not bank account, it's an easy mistake to make. Sure don't we all have at least a few grand in the bread bin? This is Ireland after all, home of "the stroke"....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    /Confused....

    So many cries for changing bankruptcy laws in Ireland, so people can walk away easily from their bad decisions..
    Someone famous does it (albeit in NI).. and the cries turn to complaints?

    Anyone who is in up to their neck in debt and can't/won't (irrespective of the amount) has caused taxpayers to pick up the tab...

    So what's the difference?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Welease wrote: »
    /Confused....

    So many cries for changing bankruptcy laws in Ireland, so people can walk away easily from their bad decisions..
    Someone famous does it (albeit in NI).. and the cries turn to complaints?

    Anyone who is in up to their neck in debt and can't/won't (irrespective of the amount) has caused taxpayers to pick up the tab...

    So what's the difference?

    Some people are actually bankrupt and haven't just hidden their money I would imagine would be one difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    thebman wrote: »
    Some people are actually bankrupt and haven't just hidden their money I would imagine would be one difference.

    Hiding money (outside the terms of bankruptcy) is fraudulent (and prosecutable) behaviour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,366 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    But buying a €500 laptop for a few million seemingly isn't fraudulent or prosecutable.

    Our laws aren't strong enough to handle the dodgy dealings of the likes of Sean Quinn and his friends.

    People are calling for fair bankruptcy laws that allow one to get back on their feet after they've been stripped of all their assets: not allowing people who've gambled recklessly to keep a few grand, a house and a nice car whilst we pick up their gambling losses.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,731 ✭✭✭Bullseye1


    He will need that to buy back those properties he sold for a laptop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Bullseye1 wrote: »
    He will need that to buy back those properties he sold for a laptop.

    He can probably get them back for a leaky bucket looking at how he sold them in the first place :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    Sleepy wrote: »
    But buying a €500 laptop for a few million seemingly isn't fraudulent or prosecutable.

    Our laws aren't strong enough to handle the dodgy dealings of the likes of Sean Quinn and his friends.

    People are calling for fair bankruptcy laws that allow one to get back on their feet after they've been stripped of all their assets: not allowing people who've gambled recklessly to keep a few grand, a house and a nice car whilst we pick up their gambling losses.

    But thats my point..

    I have seen no requests for people to be actually stipped of all their assets via new legislation. The focus has only been on shortening the discharge period.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,193 ✭✭✭[Jackass]


    He has transfered most / all of his assests into family members name. This is an area of the law that needs to be addressed. If you are found to be bankrupt, any / all assets that have been yours within the last 10 years and gifted / sold for less than market vaule based on an average price index, the difference in value is seizable by the courts if this means repossesion and resale. Possibly apply this law to family members only, as it can disrupt fair market trading.

    Also, it is illegal for anyone to take your money without your permission or court order. He could have 6 billion in an account with Anglo, they wouldn't be allowed touch it (by law) without his consent or court order.

    The bottom line is that this recent banking crisis should be the catalist for a rake of new, anti-corporate, anti-corruption, anti-avoidence legislation, targteting the "elite" and their blatent corrupt practicses. I believe Drumm should be rotting in a prison cell for example. I also believe the recent NO vote for committees calling people before them to later refer them on to the high court was the missed oppertunity that has let them off scott free (and many, including Fianna Fail :D surprise surprise) have managed to scare mongour people out of a yes vote, but if reviewed in the light of day, it was our best solution to accountability. And YES it gave powers for someone innocent to be called up to answer questions, but it would be political suicide to have someone investigated with absolutely no case to answer, and would save all the hiding behind long winded, costly court proceedings. Remember, ANY findings of the commitee can only be reffered to a high court judge, they would have had absolutely zero powers other than to only ask questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭ianuss


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    He has transfered most / all of his assests into family members name. This is an area of the law that needs to be addressed. If you are found to be bankrupt, any / all assets that have been yours within the last 10 years and gifted / sold for less than market vaule based on an average price index, the difference in value is seizable by the courts if this means repossesion and resale. Possibly apply this law to family members only, as it can disrupt fair market trading.

    Also, it is illegal for anyone to take your money without your permission or court order. He could have 6 billion in an account with Anglo, they wouldn't be allowed touch it (by law) without his consent or court order.

    The bottom line is that this recent banking crisis should be the catalist for a rake of new, anti-corporate, anti-corruption, anti-avoidence legislation, targteting the "elite" and their blatent corrupt practicses. I believe Drumm should be rotting in a prison cell for example. I also believe the recent NO vote for committees calling people before them to later refer them on to the high court was the missed oppertunity that has let them off scott free (and many, including Fianna Fail :D surprise surprise) have managed to scare mongour people out of a yes vote, but if reviewed in the light of day, it was our best solution to accountability. And YES it gave powers for someone innocent to be called up to answer questions, but it would be political suicide to have someone investigated with absolutely no case to answer, and would save all the hiding behind long winded, costly court proceedings. Remember, ANY findings of the commitee can only be reffered to a high court judge, they would have had absolutely zero powers other than to only ask questions.

    While I agree with the sentiment of your post I completely disagree with the part in bold. How can you advocate increasing powers of accountability when the politicians and regulators have shown so little interest in using their existing powers?

    In particular, I'm thinking about the ODCE, the Financial regulator and the complete and utter disregard for any of the Moriarity Tribunal findings. Denis is O'Brien is still treated like a demi-God.

    No charges against Jim Flavin. As yet, no charges against Michael Lynn. The list is literally endless. I'm waiting with interest to see what, if anything happens to anyone of any note in Anglo. Ireland is a complete bandit country at the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,834 ✭✭✭Welease


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    He has transfered most / all of his assests into family members name. This is an area of the law that needs to be addressed. If you are found to be bankrupt, any / all assets that have been yours within the last 10 years and gifted / sold for less than market vaule based on an average price index, the difference in value is seizable by the courts if this means repossesion and resale. Possibly apply this law to family members only, as it can disrupt fair market trading.

    It's currently set to 6 months in Ireland for creditors, and only 3 months for undervalued property. A rule that is open to be abused by all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    He has transfered most / all of his assests into family members name. This is an area of the law that needs to be addressed. If you are found to be bankrupt, any / all assets that have been yours within the last 10 years and gifted / sold for less than market vaule based on an average price index, the difference in value is seizable by the courts if this means repossesion and resale. Possibly apply this law to family members only, as it can disrupt fair market trading.

    Also, it is illegal for anyone to take your money without your permission or court order. He could have 6 billion in an account with Anglo, they wouldn't be allowed touch it (by law) without his consent or court order.

    The bottom line is that this recent banking crisis should be the catalist for a rake of new, anti-corporate, anti-corruption, anti-avoidence legislation, targteting the "elite" and their blatent corrupt practicses. I believe Drumm should be rotting in a prison cell for example. I also believe the recent NO vote for committees calling people before them to later refer them on to the high court was the missed oppertunity that has let them off scott free (and many, including Fianna Fail :D surprise surprise) have managed to scare mongour people out of a yes vote, but if reviewed in the light of day, it was our best solution to accountability. And YES it gave powers for someone innocent to be called up to answer questions, but it would be political suicide to have someone investigated with absolutely no case to answer, and would save all the hiding behind long winded, costly court proceedings. Remember, ANY findings of the commitee can only be reffered to a high court judge, they would have had absolutely zero powers other than to only ask questions.

    I had read that there is a law that can be used here. If it can be proved the transfers were fraudulent then they can be reversed. NAMA has even greater powers and has registered judgements against partners/spouses or forced reversals of the transfers.

    Surely he can't declare bankrupt in the North when all his businesses are trading from the South?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,255 ✭✭✭✭Lemlin


    [Jackass] wrote: »
    He has transfered most / all of his assests into family members name. This is an area of the law that needs to be addressed. If you are found to be bankrupt, any / all assets that have been yours within the last 10 years and gifted / sold for less than market vaule based on an average price index, the difference in value is seizable by the courts if this means repossesion and resale. Possibly apply this law to family members only, as it can disrupt fair market trading.

    Also, it is illegal for anyone to take your money without your permission or court order. He could have 6 billion in an account with Anglo, they wouldn't be allowed touch it (by law) without his consent or court order.

    The bottom line is that this recent banking crisis should be the catalist for a rake of new, anti-corporate, anti-corruption, anti-avoidence legislation, targteting the "elite" and their blatent corrupt practicses. I believe Drumm should be rotting in a prison cell for example. I also believe the recent NO vote for committees calling people before them to later refer them on to the high court was the missed oppertunity that has let them off scott free (and many, including Fianna Fail :D surprise surprise) have managed to scare mongour people out of a yes vote, but if reviewed in the light of day, it was our best solution to accountability. And YES it gave powers for someone innocent to be called up to answer questions, but it would be political suicide to have someone investigated with absolutely no case to answer, and would save all the hiding behind long winded, costly court proceedings. Remember, ANY findings of the commitee can only be reffered to a high court judge, they would have had absolutely zero powers other than to only ask questions.

    Fianna Fail supported a YES vote.


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