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Man jailed for tax and social welfare fraud

  • 11-11-2011 6:37pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭


    http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=daniel%20kelliher%20fraud%20social%20welfare&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rte.ie%2Fnews%2F2011%2F1111%2Fkelleherd.html&ei=WWq9ToPGCJKzhAemvonOBA&usg=AFQjCNFzqf_xQ9oBEJZa3y6URzxY2T7Pig

    A Cork man who ran up a tax bill of more than €1.5m through hisbusiness, while at the same time claiming more than €40,000 in Jobseekers' Allowance, has been jailed for four years.
    Judge Patrick Moran described Daniel Kelleher's offences as 'extraordinary fraud'

    A 43-year-old man who ran up a tax bill of more than €1.5m through a business he was operating, while at the same time claiming more than €40,000 in Jobseekers' Allowance, has been jailed for four years at the Circuit Criminal Court in Cork.
    Daniel Kelleher, of 13 Stoneyridge, Shanakiel, in Cork, is the first person to be convicted on indictment as a result of a joint investigation by the Revenue Commissioners and the Department of Social Protection.
    Between 2005 and 2008, Daniel Kelleher was operating a multi-million euro business supplying specialised concrete products and hiring and repairing machinery.
    Around the same time, the father-of-ten told the Department of Social Protection he was an unemployed farm labourer. He signed on the dole and claimed Jobseeker's Allowance of €41,110.
    But Revenue Commissioners investigator Aidan Murphy discovered that Daniel Kelleher's business had a turnover of €3.3m between 2006 and 2008. Mr Murphy told Cork Circuit Criminal Court he estimates Mr Kelleher's total tax liability at €1.65m, excluding interest and penalties.
    The court was told that Mr Kelleher disputes this figure.
    Social Welfare Investigator Brian Kearney told how Mr Kelleher signed on each month for four years, claiming more than €40,000 in Jobseekers' Allowance.
    Judge Patrick Moran said he could only describe this as an extraordinary fraud.
    The judge said Daniel Kelleher had been given an opportunity to pay back the money but did not take it and he jailed him for four years


    FFS and he was claiming jobseekers allowance, What a horrible mean greedy man he is, Hope CAB go after him now.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    Somehow it got warm on my heart....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    Is he any worse than Bertie Ahern?

    Why does this man face jail and Bertie with his dodge tax affairs was protected with a tribunal and is still walking around free?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 435 ✭✭tweedledee


    and all those involved in the banking sector which caused the crash here, ohh and those involved in construction who owe the state BILLIONS!!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,817 ✭✭✭pebbles21


    TBH he is a fcuking idiot ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,562 ✭✭✭✭Sunnyisland


    Is he any worse than Bertie Ahern?

    Why does this man face jail and Bertie with his dodge tax affairs was protected with a tribunal and is still walking around free?


    He is not any worse than a lot of then fcukers,dosent excuse him though and how stupid and greedy do you have to be to have a multi million pound business and still go to the hassle of getting job seekers allowance, Wonder how they assessed him ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,187 ✭✭✭psychward


    Is there no sharing of information between revenue and social welfare ? That's kindergarden stuff when it comes to running a state isn't it ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,538 ✭✭✭flutterflye


    What in the name of fcuk would you want with €40,000 if you had millions anyway???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,325 ✭✭✭ItsAWindUp


    Deserved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,442 ✭✭✭ofcork


    psychward wrote: »
    Is there no sharing of information between revenue and social welfare ? That's kindergarden stuff when it comes to running a state isn't it ?

    There should be cross checking across all departments and there would be less of these things going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    psychward wrote: »
    Is there no sharing of information between revenue and social welfare ? That's kindergarden stuff when it comes to running a state isn't it ?

    There is now, the computer systems they had up until recently were unable to talk to each other.

    In fact I think an entire new section / unit has been setup for this so I'd expect to see a lot more scammers getting hauled up soon.

    Pity they couldn't make a start with that stuttery fúck Bertie.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    The impression I got from the radio report earlier was that he was using two identities.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    Father of ten? How did he manage to run a business, scam so much money and raise 10 kids?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    How much was he getting in children's allowance?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭eco2live


    10 Kids??

    Prison will be handy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    psychward wrote: »
    Is there no sharing of information between revenue and social welfare ? That's kindergarden stuff when it comes to running a state isn't it ?

    Back when I worked there Revenue were allowed get information from DSW (or whatever it was called) for taxation purposes but not the other way around. I believe there are (or were, I don't know the current setup) some underlying legal principles that prevent cross-department information sharing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭ilovesleep


    realies wrote: »
    He is not any worse than a lot of then fcukers,dosent excuse him though and how stupid and greedy do you have to be to have a multi million pound business and still go to the hassle of getting job seekers allowance, Wonder how they assessed him ?
    But what makes it acceptable to jail the man in the OP and allow others to walk around free for similiar offences.

    Barry Cowen was a tax defaulter. Why is he not in prison?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    ilovesleep wrote: »
    But what makes it acceptable to jail the man in the OP and allow others to walk around free for similiar offences.

    Barry Cowen was a tax defaulter. Why is he not in prison?

    What are you on about - that's like saying that unless we solve every murder in the country no-one should get jailed for murder :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,685 ✭✭✭barneystinson


    psychward wrote: »
    Is there no sharing of information between revenue and social welfare ? That's kindergarden stuff when it comes to running a state isn't it ?

    I think the point here is that he wasn't registered with the tax office, or if he was he wasn't declaring any income, so there was nothing for them to share...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Computer says yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,791 ✭✭✭Worztron


    Why the hell are tax evaders (generally) merely mentioned in a newspaper and fined instead of being jailed? Is it because they are rich?

    If someone defrauded social welfare, they'd get jailed immediately.

    For example if someone avoided paying hundreds of thousands or even millions in tax they don't go to jail but if someone got a few hundred Euro that they shouldn't have from the DSP, they get treated far worse.
    Where is the equality in the sentences?

    The bankers cost this country billions and are walking around with their heads in the air. :mad:

    Mitch Hedberg: "Rice is great if you're really hungry and want to eat two thousand of something."



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,641 ✭✭✭Teyla Emmagan


    10 kids. Not bad for a man who is 43. Which means that most of them are likely young enough to still be getting child support. On top of the 40k, that could be a clean 2.5k a month (too lazy to work it out properly).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Worztron wrote: »
    Why the hell are tax evaders (generally) merely mentioned in a newspaper and fined instead of being jailed? Is it because they are rich?

    Fraud isn't taken seriously, especially defrauding the state.
    If someone defrauded social welfare, they'd get jailed immediately.

    For example if someone avoided paying hundreds of thousands or even millions in tax they don't go to jail but if someone got a few hundred Euro that they shouldn't have from the DSP, they get treated far worse.
    Where is the equality in the sentences?

    The bankers cost this country billions and are walking around with their heads in the air. :mad:

    Extremely rare, see above, treated the same, its only the state. They usually dock a tenner or so of the dole. Its illegal to take much more, they are introducing new legislation to penalise harder.

    So, not treated differently at all. Just the figures are bigger.

    Imprisonment for SW fraud tends to be for extreme cases like the above, multiple identities etc. The "ordinary" man double jobbing will get away easy.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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