Question for .223 or .208 license

john_aero

Ok so i have current license for shotgun and own rife now in fatehrs name as was under age when i owned it so on paper always been in my dads name

but i am looking getting a .223 or .308 rifle, so what requirements are there? i am member of a gun club but is there much more stringent criteria for larger caliber rifle?

Glensman

You'll prob need a deer stalking licence for the .308...

dev110

Glensman wrote: »

You'll prob need a deer stalking licence for the .308...

Or membership of a range

john_aero

thats exactly what i taught, i take it .243 up you need a range or stalking license?

might look get the salking license instead

Tackleberrywho

john_aero wrote: »

Ok so i have current license for shotgun and own rife now in fatehrs name as was under age when i owned it so on paper always been in my dads name

but i am looking getting a .223 or .308 rifle, so what requirements are there? i am member of a gun club but is there much more stringent criteria for larger caliber rifle?

Do you intend Deer stalking? Big difference in a .223 Vs .308.
Supers often hesitate giving out Heavy Calibre rifles to anyone under 21. Especially if you have not had a licenced Rifle in your own name or a training cert.

I'd have a chat with the FO if I were you.
And explain what you want it for.
Vermin.
Deer.
Target shooting on an authorized Range.

Deer shooting is not something to enter lightly.
Target shooting is an expensive sport for a teenager.

Make an informed decesion

Cass

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Supers often hesitate giving out Heavy Calibre rifles to anyone under 21.

Could you elaborate on that? First i'm hearing of it.

Tackleberrywho

Ezridax wrote: »

Could you elaborate on that? First i'm hearing of it.

I was one of them, back in the day.

If the Op is 18 with no experience of a Rifle licensed in his name the super will think long and hard before issuing a licence.

I know of several guys countrywide who had issues getting a Stalking Calibre with no previous Rifle licensed in their name and were not a member of an authorised range.

Cass

So its more related to a lack of experience than their age.

As you know they cannot refuse a license based on being under 21. They can if they feel your reason for wanting it is not valid. Its the exact same for a man of 45 that is only getting into shooting. He would suffer the same obstacles.

Hence the reason for the competency courses one must do before applying for or getting their first license for a particular type of firearm.

Tackleberrywho

Ezridax wrote: »

So its more related to a lack of experience than their age.

As you know they cannot refuse a license based on being under 21. They can if they feel your reason for wanting it is not valid. Its the exact same for a man of 45 that is only getting into shooting. He would suffer the same obstacles.

Hence the reason for the competency courses one must do before applying for or getting their first license for a particular type of firearm.

No, my point is that age without any experience caused Supers to «hesitate»

I did not say refuse.
I had to bring my dad with me when I wanted to licence my first 6.5x55.
The words that were spoken to me were, do you not think this is just a "teenage phase"
That was over 10 years ago and 3 Supers later, however I have heard several similar stories since from around the country

Cass

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

No, my point is that age without any experience caused Supers to «hesitate»

I said that.

So its more related to a lack of experience than their age.

. Its the exact same for a man of 45 that is only getting into shooting. He would suffer the same obstacles

Just when you mentioned 21 i thought there was some sort of secret, Super agenda to decline, refuse, set conditions on or hesitate to give a license.

I appreciate that when a Super is giving out a license age may be a factor, but in law it isn't (once they're over 16). So if a Super handed out a license to a man of say 45-50 without seeking the same competency course certificates, and/or similar safety handling course as someone under 21 then it would be a fairly serious issue, and one that would warrant reporting and looking into.

I did not say refuse.

I know. Slip of the finger. I'm used to saying granted or refused because hesitant is not a state of any license.

I had to bring my dad with me when I wanted to licence my first 6.5x55.
The words that were spoken to me were, do you not think this is just a "teenage phase"
That was over 10 years ago and 3 Supers later, however I have heard several similar stories since from around the country

I'm fortunate enough to not have had those sort of issues. My first rifle was a .22, then Hornett, .243, 6.5, etc, etc.

Did you start of with a 6.5 or did you build up to it?

Tackleberrywho

I got a .22lr in June. I bought a 6.5 in Sept.

I had a shotgun for a frw years before that.

Same station licenced an older guy I knew a stalking rifle the same year.
My application sat in Limbo until I had an interview with my Dad and I present.

My Dad, gave me a compliment and said, even though he had a rifle since 1964, I was more adept with rifles than he was, snd that I was facinated by firearms since a child.

So going back to the OP.
Know all your facts as a Super "may" grill U more than a 45 year old, as age "Normally" implies maturity and level headedness.

And as most Supers have teenage kids, they may "wrongly" think all "kids" have not the first clue, and thus a Calibre may be too much of a step.

And a "kid" is less likely to litigate for fiscal reasons.

These are my experiences, and those of collegues of mine.

Cass

Therein lies the fundamental flaw.

I have often said on many threads that upcoming generations of shooters know more about firearms than the previous one. Not to be confused with experience, but with the array of information available to younger shooters they have a better understanding of firearms, balistics, etc, etc from the off. Experience they will gain over time, but not as many are walking into dealers and accepting the first thing handed to them.

john_aero

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Do you intend Deer stalking? Big difference in a .223 Vs .308.
Supers often hesitate giving out Heavy Calibre rifles to anyone under 21. Especially if you have not had a licenced Rifle in your own name or a training cert.

I'd have a chat with the FO if I were you.
And explain what you want it for.
Vermin.
Deer.
Target shooting on an authorized Range.

Deer shooting is not something to enter lightly.
Target shooting is an expensive sport for a teenager.

Make an informed decesion

ah i am nearly 30 lad???????

have shotgun but signed rifle over to my dad as didnt want ti while moving into new house.

have trainign cert done but was while ago so prob just re do it again.

we are already deer hunting, just i want start going huntin up wher ei live now so want my own rifle as long trip home when we want both go otu hunting

But i do understand what you mean, for a younger lad it was ok for me getting license years ago, it was small village, and was well know i hunt with my father since i could walk. Local garda knew us, had no issue regarding my experience and reason for wanting a gun.

now a little scummer from a dodgey background decides on his 18th he wants a shooter for fun, then yes i am sure the garda may say your not experienced, have no valid reason and your not a compentant lad.

sure i seen lads in garda station go up recently asking where do i get the forms to own a "6 shooter boss for sport boss"