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Can Dick Roche stop talking to BBC World News about the Irish Econony

  • 11-11-2011 7:52am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭


    While travelling I switched on BBC world news only to see Dick Roche still talking about the bailout, and Irelands economy

    Although he was presented as a " Former" minister , he sounded like he was talking on behalf of the government .

    He was babbling and wasn't making sense.

    This interview was today !!!!!! And broadcast globally

    Is there any way we can get these economic traitors from doing more damage ????

    This makes us look very bad internationally.:mad:

    I will try to provide a link later


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 323 ✭✭mistermouse


    Who is actually making us look good, seriously. Who are representing the people and standing up for Ireland. Who were voted in on promises/lies they knew they couldn't stand over.

    Irish politicians are all the same. Doesn't matter who are on BBC or elsewhere, they seem to think their job is to spin and spout out crap daily to whoever will listen, just as the current govt did pre-election.

    The international community know we have a spineless political system, no point in denying it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Who is actually making us look good, seriously. Who are representing the people and standing up for Ireland. Who were voted in on promises/lies they knew they couldn't stand over.

    Irish politicians are all the same. Doesn't matter who are on BBC or elsewhere, they seem to think their job is to spin and spout out crap daily to whoever will listen, just as the current govt did pre-election.

    The international community know we have a spineless political system, no point in denying it

    You sound defeated , just like Dick Roche and FF. Why not have a bit of optimism??

    I'm no fan of FG or Noonan , but I think he is doing a good job in cleaning up the FF mess.

    My problem with Dick roche is that he is a liar and a traitor, he has no mandate to speak for any one .

    He is making us look stupid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    Dick is the epitome of everything that is/was wrong with politics.
    Even when he was eliminated in the election and had zero chance of getting a seat, he still threw the toys out of the pram and looked for a recount.
    here's a vid of the greatest moment of the year imo



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,987 ✭✭✭Auvers


    Dick by name

    Dick by nature


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭SB-08


    The Cockroche should be banned from speaking about the economy. He made a show of the country on Bloomberg and CH4 news a few days before the bailout by saying there was no way we would have a bailout and denied any of it happening despite the IMF being in the country at the time. He makes Dermot 'Fiction' Ahern look well.





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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    I nearly choked on my fried egg when I saw the FFer still showing his head on the cable networks.

    This was this morning folks :mad: Nov 11 2011 wasn't a re run, ...... they haven't gone away completely ... still a few crawling out from under the rock.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    How is this lad allowed to take a pension from the State while "talking down our economy"... something he would have never been allowed to do with his own Government... always struck me as a hugely irritable, aloof and arrogant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 792 ✭✭✭juuge


    Auvers wrote: »
    Dick by name

    Dick by nature
    It's really 'Little Dick' Roche.:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Icepick




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Do you know that Wexford Borough Council held a civic reception for him (free gargle, food etc for the whole night in the County Hall for about 200 people) because he was born, yes only born, in the town !!

    Ah the days we had loadsa money wha'... civic receptions galore just because you were born in the town. What a scandal :mad::mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Icepick wrote: »

    It was another tv interview earlier with Tanya Beckett.
    I still can't find the link

    If I was Enda or Noonan I would have word with him to sit it out for a while let real politicians do the interviews .

    I think he is deluded


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    According to posters on Politics.ie Dick Roche is on sky news today.

    Someone better have a word with this traitor to make sure he doesn't do more damage to Irelands economy.

    Makes me mad to see the FFers that ruined our country pretending to be financial experts now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,246 ✭✭✭Good loser


    C'mon now lads what about freedom of speech?

    Never met him in person but I liked his articulateness and intelligence.

    He fronted up for FF when many ministers hid.

    Not easy to deal with shallow journalists interested only in today and tomorrow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Fitzerb


    vicwatson wrote: »
    Do you know that Wexford Borough Council held a civic reception for him (free gargle, food etc for the whole night in the County Hall for about 200 people) because he was born, yes only born, in the town !!

    Ah the days we had loadsa money wha'... civic receptions galore just because you were born in the town. What a scandal :mad::mad:

    Quick organise a tribunal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Good loser wrote: »
    C'mon now lads what about freedom of speech?

    Never met him in person but I liked his articulateness and intelligence.

    He fronted up for FF when many ministers hid.

    Not easy to deal with shallow journalists interested only in today and tomorrow.

    I find the guy incoherent and a bit dim to be honest.
    He comes across in interviews as a buffoon.
    What he lacks in presentation he compensates for in arrogance.

    I'm not saying that he should be censored , what I am saying that traitors like Roche should not speak on the economy of their own free will. They should self censor and be quiet in shame.

    The buffoon is making Ireland look stupid again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Fitzerb


    raymon wrote: »
    According to posters on Politics.ie Dick Roche is on sky news today.

    Someone better have a word with this traitor to make sure he doesn't do more damage to Irelands economy.

    Makes me mad to see the FFers that ruined our country pretending to be financial experts now

    Please tell us who would like to see discussing areas of our economy on TV


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Fitzerb wrote: »
    Please tell us who would like to see discussing areas of our economy on TV

    Anyone but Dick Roche ........ I would prefer Jedward , Twink, Martin King the weather man .... anyone but him


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Fitzerb


    raymon wrote: »
    Anyone but Dick Roche ........ I would prefer Jedward , Twink, Martin King the weather .... anyone but him

    As I thought,, not a positive gene in your body. I asked you who would you like not who you would not like..... but perhaps Jedward would be a little too intelligent for you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Fitzerb wrote: »
    As I thought,, not a positive gene in your body. I asked you who would you like not who you would not like..... but perhaps Jedward would be a little too intelligent for you

    Please read my answer again.

    I would prefer any of these buffoons to Roche

    The man is a clown and traitor


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 547 ✭✭✭HugoBradyBrown


    Do we want some kind of Lustration Statute or the passing of Acts of Attainder in Ireland? I think not.

    Surely, having lost his seat and his career, Dick Roche has already paid his heavy debt to society for what he did and supported. He has lost status, respect, standing, reputation, honour and recognised integrity. But, all that aside, we must think more clearly and more charitably about a misfortunate man.

    We ought not to begrudge him earning a modest income as a commentator in the media. It has never been in our character to want to destroy people for making a mistake. The poor man has lost his public standing and his self-respect, and his party has been destroyed, but we must retain a minimal sense of respect for his personal dignity and his human rights. We should not want a potentially reformable person not to be able to earn a living, since recidivism is the other option.

    And, in purely pragmatic terms, it is better to have him earning an honest living abroad than being a financial burden on the Exchequer, lining up twice a month at the hatch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Fitzerb


    raymon wrote: »
    Please read my answer again.

    I would prefer any of these buffoons to Roche

    The man is a clown and traitor

    Once again you prove yourself incapable of giving a mature answer. Please educate us by telling us which person would relay your Financial policies and views on TV..... If the answer remains Jedward then we both know that your policies are totally based on personality and not worthy of consideration


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,739 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Surely, having lost his seat and his career, Dick Roche has already paid his heavy debt to society for what he did and supported. He has lost status, respect, standing, reputation, honour and recognised integrity. But, all that aside, we must think more clearly and more charitably about a misfortunate man.
    This is either the best tongue-in-cheek stuff I've ever read, or the most puke-inducing sh1te.

    In either case, this "misfilortunate man" is earning more in a pension than I make working - a marvellous state of affairs which I and you are paying for in tax.

    "Misfortunate man" me bollocks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Do we want some kind of Lustration Statute or the passing of Acts of Attainder in Ireland? I think not.

    Surely, having lost his seat and his career, Dick Roche has already paid his heavy debt to society for what he did and supported. He has lost status, respect, standing, reputation, honour and recognised integrity. But, all that aside, we must think more clearly and more charitably about a misfortunate man.

    We ought not to begrudge him earning a modest income as a commentator in the media. It has never been in our character to want to destroy people for making a mistake. The poor man has lost his public standing and his self-respect, and his party has been destroyed, but we must retain a minimal sense of respect for his personal dignity and his human rights. We should not want a potentially reformable person not to be able to earn a living, since recidivism is the other option.

    And, in purely pragmatic terms, it is better to have him earning an honest living abroad than being a financial burden on the Exchequer, lining up twice a month at the hatch.

    I disagree with everything you say here .

    Having participated in the destruction of our economy , he should retire on his generous pension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Fitzerb wrote: »
    Once again you prove yourself incapable of giving a mature answer. Please educate us by telling us which person would relay your Financial policies and views on TV..... If the answer remains Jedward then we both know that your policies are totally based on personality and not worthy of consideration

    An elected politician should be representing our views on tv. Preferably the minister for finance , Noonan, Taoiseach , Kenny , Minister for foreign affairs , Gilmore or any of the handful of dail deputies with a good grasp of economics and finance.

    Opposition politicians that were not involved in the destruction of the economy , and have a mandate should also have a voice. Dick Roche has no business giving interviews on cable channels and should stop out of decency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Fitzerb


    raymon wrote: »
    An elected politician should be representing our views on tv. Preferably the minister for finance , Noonan, Taoiseach , Kenny , Minister for foreign affairs , Gilmore or any of the handful of dail deputies with a good grasp of economics and finance.

    Opposition politicians that were not involved in the destruction of the economy , and have a mandate should also have a voice. Dick Roche has no business giving interviews on cable channels and should stop out of decency.

    He never suggested he was representing anyone's views but his own. So with your logic only elected people could voice an opinion on a TV station, a little like a police state then. Dick Roche is a private citizen and is entitled to to speak on any TV station he wishes. As for the destruction of our economy issue that would also rule SF/IRA out of any TV debate, they destroyed any possibility of economic progress in Ireland in the 70's and 80's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭raymon


    Fitzerb wrote: »
    He never suggested he was representing anyone's views but his own. So with your logic only elected people could voice an opinion on a TV station, a little like a police state then. Dick Roche is a private citizen and is entitled to to speak on any TV station he wishes. As for the destruction of our economy issue that would also rule SF/IRA out of any TV debate, they destroyed any possibility of economic progress in Ireland in the 70's and 80's.

    His interviews appear that he is speaking for the Irish people every time he says "we"
    His independence was not clear and he appeared to be some kind of spokesman

    And whatabout Sinn Fein and IRA you ask ???? Whatabout them ? They have more sense than to call up the cable channels to peddle their lack of knowledge?
    I would be equally disgusted if the were sending one of their unelected clowns to talk about the economy.

    And before we get the violins for Dick Roche consider this ..... he receives : €134,792.37 in the first year, €49,074.55 every year thereafter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    raymon wrote: »
    Although he was presented as a " Former" minister , he sounded like he was talking on behalf of the government .

    Well there is no difference between them though is there? Opposition makes big noise with great promises. Opposition assumes power and then bleats meekly likes its predecessor did. But that's gormless, spineless Irish politicians for you I suppose.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    Well there is no difference between them though is there? Opposition makes big noise with great promises. Opposition assumes power and then bleats meekly likes its predecessor did. But that's gormless, spineless Irish politicians for you I suppose.

    He isn't in opposition though is he?
    He lost his seat at the 2011 general election, polling only 5.5% of the vote which was down from the 15.8% he polled four years previously. Roche prolonged the count by demanding a recount when it was found that only three votes separated him and his Fianna Fáil running mate Pat Fitzgerald, an action which was criticised by other candidates including Fitzgerald, who described it as "disgusting". Fitzgerald also accepted that there wouldn't be a seat for Fianna Fáil.[8] He was not present at the announcement of his elimination which was greeted with widespread cheering and applause at the count centre.

    Lost his seat. He isn't in opposition, he is just an ordinary Joe now, well sort of. I think it is kind of odd that the BBC ask him for interview at all considering his current status. Maybe none of the Irish government will actually talk to them though since few voters will be watching BBC world and it is not the safe house of RTE.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,423 ✭✭✭V_Moth


    A few years ago, the environmental organisation had an open day with Preseident McAleese opening a site. Dick Roche turned up uninvited and kept trying to get his face in the picture wherever the President went. He even tried to sit at her designated place - the heads of organisation were very tempted to throw him off the premises.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 547 ✭✭✭HugoBradyBrown


    I have begun to ask myself if Mr Roche has taken up is UCD lectureship again, since he retired from active politics. Perhaps someone else knows the answer. If so, would his Oireachtas and Ministerial pensions be postponed until he had ceased to be a public servant in the university?


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