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shear grabs

  • 07-11-2011 11:06pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭


    are people getting fed up of sheargrabs.they are slow,heavy, troublesome, expensive and hard on a tractor and arent much good for anything else unlike a tine grab.i know some fellas work grand with them but alot of others now think they are not worth the hassle


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 718 ✭✭✭F.D


    if your not using a lot of silage per day there a must to keep the pit face fresh, so we found anyway, but i see bigger farmers using so much of the pit per day it dosent get time to go off, i find ours tidier than the tooth grab not as much silage lost all over the yard, if i was changing though i think i would fancy one of those bucket grabs, would be handy if you had loose meal tipped in a shed etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    Wouldn't be without mine. No way would I go back to the days of losing silage all over the yard and wasting time going back with a sprong to pick it up. They aren't that hard run. We used to run a 4ft McHale off a TS90 with a quicke Q920 loader no bother at all. Run it off off a TS115A now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭barryoc1


    I think if the yard is level and not travelling over any rough surface the tine grab does the job and you tend to lose very little silage. So i find anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭Juniorhurler


    barryoc1 wrote: »
    I think if the yard is level and not travelling over any rough surface the tine grab does the job and you tend to lose very little silage. So i find anyway.

    That would describe our yard, but we still found the tine grab lost a bit. We would only use the face of our pit in about a week so we found the shear grab to be great to keep it fresh. Wouldn't do without it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87 ✭✭warfie35


    Have a 4 foot nugent shear grab on o&k loader, wouldn't be without it,use it nearly every day, keeps silage fresh at pit face, do lose a little from time to time but not too much, keep blades sharp, grease grab weekly, should av no bother


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Nutcase


    F.D wrote: »
    if your not using a lot of silage per day there a must to keep the pit face fresh, so we found anyway, but i see bigger farmers using so much of the pit per day it dosent get time to go off, i find ours tidier than the tooth grab not as much silage lost all over the yard, if i was changing though i think i would fancy one of those bucket grabs, would be handy if you had loose meal tipped in a shed etc

    Bucket grabs would be handy for lifting loose meal or spuds save alot of hassel, but I have heard of people saying they are harder to drive into the pit face?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Muckit


    Nutcase wrote: »
    I have heard of people saying they are harder to drive into the pit face?


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    Which one would you prefer to be trying to stick into a silage pit? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭epfff


    warfie35 wrote: »
    Have a 4 foot nugent shear grab on o&k loader, wouldn't be without it,use it nearly every day, keeps silage fresh at pit face, do lose a little from time to time but not too much, keep blades sharp, grease grab weekly, should av no bother
    Bought a 4ft shear when old grab got shook.
    Miss my old grab
    Will go back to old fashioned grab when I get money


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭greenpetrol


    Anyone use a just a big bucket ? ? Sharp blade to shear off the silage into the floor and scoop it up !! Would have little waste transporting over rough ground


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Anyone use a just a big bucket ? ? Sharp blade to shear off the silage into the floor and scoop it up !! Would have little waste transporting over rough ground

    When we were using TMR we only used bucket only. Since then shear only as bucked wouldn't carry as much


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 786 ✭✭✭Cattlepen


    I used to do tmr. Had a big bucket grab on teleporter. To be honest it was ok but neither one thing or the other. You end up rooting at the face of the pit with it and it's hard on the loader. Bought a second hand McCall shear grab and I think it's the best yolk ever. It's so tidy and neat. Leave the blocks of silage to do them for two days with virtually no waste and no birds searching through it unlike tmr. I wasted some time, diesel and money with tmr over the years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    When we were using TMR we only used bucket only. Since then shear only as bucked wouldn't carry as much

    Stopped using bucket only this year after a couple of years without shear grab. Job much faster with shear grab. Absolutely no comparison between the weight carried in shear grab and bucket. Much tidier pit faces as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    If you have a 4 in 1 bucket on your loader, you'd never go back to a shear grab.
    Able to bring 8 or 9 food width, a shear grab us woefully slow by comparison.
    Also really easy to lift loose feed or dropped silage without having to push up against a wall or the feed face.
    Robust enough to drive into a full block of silage and "dunt" it around parallel to the feed rail without worrying about straining it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 296 ✭✭massey woman


    Anyone using a Skid Steer with a shear grab on it
    Thinking of getting one next year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,546 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Nekarsulm wrote: »
    If you have a 4 in 1 bucket on your loader, you'd never go back to a shear grab.
    Able to bring 8 or 9 food width, a shear grab us woefully slow by comparison.
    Also really easy to lift loose feed or dropped silage without having to push up against a wall or the feed face.
    Robust enough to drive into a full block of silage and "dunt" it around parallel to the feed rail without worrying about straining it.

    Quicke makes them for tractor loaders too


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭greenpetrol


    Anyone using a Skid Steer with a shear grab on it
    Thinking of getting one next year

    Shear grab full of silage would come to what weight? Average Skid steer safely lift what weight ? These are questions I would like to know before buying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    Shear grab full of silage would come to what weight? Average Skid steer safely lift what weight ? These are questions I would like to know before buying

    Six good here lifting around 700kg. One of the neighbour's had a four ram eight foot lifting around 1100-1200 kg of grass silage. I'd say within reason you'll get a grab to match your lifting power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 125 ✭✭greenpetrol


    Six good here lifting around 700kg. One of the neighbour's had a four ram eight foot lifting around 1100-1200 kg of grass silage. I'd say within reason you'll get a grab to match your lifting power.

    Eight foot shear grab on a skid steer or a tractor? What make was the skidsteer if so do you know ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    Eight foot shear grab on a skid steer or a tractor? What make was the skidsteer if so do you know ?

    I would say that grab would most likely have been on an ind. loader or something similar. Free's point was that you can get a shear grab any size to suit any machine. Have a 6'6 jj mahoney shear grab here and it's on a jcb 412. Not many tractors would handle ita as with a full grab of silage and the grab itself there could easily be 1.2 or 3 tonne in the air if not more. If you lower the full grab too fast from a height the back of the loader would be hopping when you stop it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,278 ✭✭✭frazzledhome


    Milked out wrote: »
    I would say that grab would most likely have been on an ind. loader or something similar. Free's point was that you can get a shear grab any size to suit any machine. Have a 6'6 jj mahoney shear grab here and it's on a jcb 412. Not many tractors would handle ita as with a full grab of silage and the grab itself there could easily be 1.2 or 3 tonne in the air if not more. If you lower the full grab too fast from a height the back of the loader would be hopping when you stop it

    You're passing 2 tonne


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    Reggie. wrote: »
    Quicke makes them for tractor loaders too

    Anyone using a digger 4 in 1 on a tractor loader?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,920 ✭✭✭freedominacup


    td5man wrote: »
    Anyone using a digger 4 in 1 on a tractor loader?

    I'd say the 4 in 1 would be too heavy on a tractor to be able to carry any worthwhile weight in it as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,506 ✭✭✭MfMan


    Shear grab full of silage would come to what weight? Average Skid steer safely lift what weight ? These are questions I would like to know before buying

    Have a 4'6" grab on a Mustang 2060, it can manage it no problem, though I usually don't take a full grab at a time anyway. (Prefer to feed less and often, rather than leave in a chock-full grab which may last for 2 whole days, a bit less wastage that way I find.) The grab itself is no more than 400Kg unladen I think, (and probably less), and hardly any more than twice that when full. The skiddie is rated to lift about a ton, so can heft the grab without difficulty.

    If I was buying again, I'd purchase a 5' grab to match the width of the mustang, easier to get into the pit side walls. As for feeding, I doubt there's a better type of machine to feed blocks to cattle; because of it's compactness, it can get right in front of the barriers and drop the block to their noses, plus it's-tight turning footprint means that it's very maneuverable, a consideration in double sheds where the central passage may be narrow. It can also lift round bales to a height where they can be dropped in over into a round feeder or feeding trailer (though not a diet feeder). No good for travelling on wet land, will sink under it's own weight, but will work fine during summer. Concrete yards hard on tyre wear. Excellent to clean out and bed sheds. Will lift big fertiliser bags in over the spreader. Useful for lifting big stones for wall maintenace and repair.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Milked out wrote: »
    I would say that grab would most likely have been on an ind. loader or something similar. Free's point was that you can get a shear grab any size to suit any machine. Have a 6'6 jj mahoney shear grab here and it's on a jcb 412. Not many tractors would handle ita as with a full grab of silage and the grab itself there could easily be 1.2 or 3 tonne in the air if not more. If you lower the full grab too fast from a height the back of the loader would be hopping when you stop it[/quote
    those o mahoney grabe are bloody heavy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,081 ✭✭✭td5man


    I'd say the 4 in 1 would be too heavy on a tractor to be able to carry any worthwhile weight in it as well.

    That's what I'd be thinking too, it's one thing I miss about not having a digger anymore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,433 ✭✭✭Milked out


    keep going wrote: »
    Milked out wrote: »
    I would say that grab would most likely have been on an ind. loader or something similar. Free's point was that you can get a shear grab any size to suit any machine. Have a 6'6 jj mahoney shear grab here and it's on a jcb 412. Not many tractors would handle ita as with a full grab of silage and the grab itself there could easily be 1.2 or 3 tonne in the air if not more. If you lower the full grab too fast from a height the back of the loader would be hopping when you stop it[/quote
    those o mahoney grabe are bloody heavy

    They are alright but they are similar to the red rock ones but came in at 1k cheaper


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