my house plans opinions please

e30fitz

look down the thread to see plans thanks..

Carlow52

why a zip file? more prone to malware.

muffler

Carlow52 wrote: »

why a zip file? more prone to malware.

Quite right.


e30fitz I have removed the zip file and ask you to upload the plans in PDF format and ensure that the title block is not visible.

Thanks

e30fitz

Hi
Im looking for opinions on this house i hope to build next year positive or negative.
Ill be doing it self build and im hoping to have a turn key finish 200,000 am i deluded?:eek:
I have most trades available at "mates rates" and access to low cost materials relative working at a builders merchants.
also opinions on the house layout would be great thanks in advance

muffler

e30fitz wrote: »

Hi
Im looking for opinions on this house i hope to build next year positive or negative.
Ill be doing it self build and im hoping to have a turn key finish 200,000 am i deluded?:eek:
I have most trades available at "mates rates" and access to low cost materials relative working at a builders merchants.
also opinions on the house layout would be great thanks in advance

Moved to existing thread on this topic.

muffler

I only had a very quick look and the first thing that jumped out at me was the length of the ground floor wc - it's interfering with the study. Reduce it by 600mm to 1900mm. This will leave just 600mm to the left in the study which can then be easily filled with a worktop, filing cabinet, unit etc.

I'll get a more detailed look a bit later.

Which direction is North?

maddragon

Orientation is important as Muffler alluded to. Minimum glass as possible should be on the North Elevation.

BryanF

on first glance, this reminds me of the lotto, all the rooms came out in a random order.:D
can we have a north point please.

I reckon you could narrow the whole building by about a meter or so. this would: make it look a little more vernacular, maybe even allow the eaves to be higher and remove all the little dormers. the internal layouts could be adjusted to suit. down stairs - I think needs plenty more design input.

there must be a way to reduce the amount of add-on bits, even by one or two.

may I ask has your engineer got an knowledge of the BER requirements or has anyone mentioned the passive house standard to you?

e30fitz

Thanks for looking lads i have put north on the drawings now
Firstly i agree that the downstairs w/c looks abit wrong my own solution was to square off the boot room and have one big w/c downstairs losing the study.?????

also ber or passive house standards have not been discussed with me by my engineer.
I think the height is limited to 7.5m so i dont know if dormers can be removed.
"vernacular" ????? dont know what it means sorry
And would love to hear new down stair layout ideas thanks again

e30fitz

Ok i cant get north to stay on the drawing
basically the front door of the house is facing north west

Supertech

If that orientation is correct (Front Door NE) the layout needs a lot of work - are you sure it's right ?

e30fitz

sorry front door is facing out nw im a disaster sorry iv e changed post above what you think now???????

BryanF

e30fitz wrote: »

Thanks for looking lads i have put north on the drawings now
Firstly i agree that the downstairs w/c looks abit wrong my own solution was to square off the boot room and have one big w/c downstairs losing the study.?????

also ber or passive house standards have not been discussed with me by my engineer.
I think the height is limited to 7.5m so i dont know if dormers can be removed.
"vernacular" ????? dont know what it means sorry
And would love to hear new down stair layout ideas thanks again

e30fitz,
what if you went and employed an architect to design your house and retained the services of this engineer to provide structural input..

e30fitz

BryanF wrote: »

e30fitz,
what if you went and employed an architect to design your house and retained the services of this engineer to provide structural input..

for a totally new style house or just some changes on this design?

sydthebeat

a few quick suggestions:

1. incorporate a secoind door internally and turn the entrance porch into a draught lobby

2. the disabled wc, the wheelchair space must be 'adjacent' to the toilet, not in front of, as is shown here... 1500 is just about wide enough, but get it designed to show compliance.

3 double door entrance to drawing room is overkill, the room is not big enough to warrant such.

4. study, wc, boot room area could be better designed. the study could be squared up, the wc pushed to the LHS external wall, and the door to bootroom moved to the 900 window on LHS. in doing so you loose no boot room counter space, no wc space, but you gain a larger study.

5 are the steps down into dining space actually required by site levels?

6 french doors in dining room should be on the opposite wall.. this will allow for access to patio / deck on summer evenings. As it stands those doors loose direct sunlight at about 9.00 in the morning.

e30fitz

sydthebeat wrote: »

a few quick suggestions:

1. incorporate a secoind door internally and turn the entrance porch into a draught lobby

2. the disabled wc, the wheelchair space must be 'adjacent' to the toilet, not in front of, as is shown here... 1500 is just about wide enough, but get it designed to show compliance.

3 double door entrance to drawing room is overkill, the room is not big enough to warrant such.

4. study, wc, boot room area could be better designed. the study could be squared up, the wc pushed to the LHS external wall, and the door to bootroom moved to the 900 window on LHS. in doing so you loose no boot room counter space, no wc space, but you gain a larger study.

5 are the steps down into dining space actually required by site levels?

6 french doors in dining room should be on the opposite wall.. this will allow for access to patio / deck on summer evenings. As it stands those doors loose direct sunlight at about 9.00 in the morning.

point 1 very good idea and looks a must
point 2. i had similar idea but of makin it a large bathroom instead of study
point 3 i agree room isnt large enough to warrant double doors good idea and would also make more kitchen space
point 4 already sorted above
point 5 there is a fall in the site but would much prefer this to be level with no steps at all
point 6 i see what your saying but i think i seems more natural to exit that
side rather than change it keeps the whole back yard tied into the house imo

sydthebeat

point 6

your drive / yard should not extend around to the south west side anyway.
you already have access from the yard to the kitchen through the boot room.

picture your having a BBQ or an al fresco meal.. your current arrangement means you have to walk from kitchen through dining out doors, and back around the rear of the dining to get to your sun trap area.

if you swap the doors to the other side, your pretty much direct from kitchen to outside patio area.

point 3
i was referring to the drawing room... but i would also agree that the sliding doors to the den is also over kill. you have very little space in the kitchen for high level units

e30fitz

point 6 youve given me serious food for thought opening the doors on to a decking maybe? its the brightest part of the site alright best to make the most of it

BryanF

e30fitz wrote: »

for a totally new style house or just some changes on this design?

that depends, have you gone for pre-planning yet? I appreciate your looking for constructive criticism, its not my intention to belittle your engineers profession but they general deal with structure not architectural design

I think the height is limited to 7.5m so i dont know if dormers can be removed.

I think this could be managed

"vernacular" ????? dont know what it means sorry

here's what the limerick county council (your in limerick?) has to say:

Numerous large two-storey houses in a wide variety of
styles have been more recently constructed throughout
the county to meet the growing demand for living in the
countryside. Whereas many of these may make
reference to traditional forms, the majority appear overscaled
or unnecessarily elaborate in their detailing. The
simple elegance of vernacular buildings has been
avoided in the quest for making individual statements,
while innovative design in a contemporary form is rarely
achieved.

p12 Limcountyruraldesignguide

And would love to hear new down stair layout ideas thanks again

please take a look at section 5, where they give some advice on designing your home

Fair play to Syd for helping to redesign your home on boards.ie:)

e30fitz

here's what the limerick county council (your in limerick?) has to say: p12
yes im in limerick how did you figure that out ?
are you an architect yourself?
I never felt the real need for an architect this engineer was recommened by a friend and having seen his finished house i was very impressed with his design, so i put my faith in him i have been to numerous pre planning meetings this was a style we liked from a book detailing the recommended house types for our area.
thanks for the feedback any comments on the 200000 turn key finish ?

darragh_haven

e30fitz wrote: »

here's what the limerick county council (your in limerick?) has to say: p12
yes im in limerick how did you figure that out ?
are you an architect yourself?
I never felt the real need for an architect this engineer was recommened by a friend and having seen his finished house i was very impressed with his design, so i put my faith in him i have been to numerous pre planning meetings this was a style we liked from a book detailing the recommended house types for our area.
thanks for the feedback any comments on the 200000 turn key finish ?

it's possible if it was self build. I dont think its possible by "turn key". Labour has come down in €€€, but materials have just gone up and up. eg. during this year ridgid insulation went 11% in jan/feb and then another 10% in May.

e30fitz

darragh_haven wrote: »

it's possible if it was self build. I dont think its possible by "turn key". Labour has come down in €€€, but materials have just gone up and up. eg. during this year ridgid insulation went 11% in jan/feb and then another 10% in May.

heard that the price war is about to kick off again and that should bring down the price of rigid and thermal wall boards so hopefully some of the may increase will be clawed back until now the all the companies had agreed not to under cut each other but thats about to change from what i hear.
that said stuff like steel and lead is likely to keep going up not sure about timber

e30fitz

Limcountyruraldesignguide


bryan f this link was very helpfull thanks

BryanF

e30fitz wrote: »

Limcountyruraldesignguide


bryan f this link was very helpfull thanks

no worries, what I meant by 'pre-planning' is a meeting with the planners, your engineer and you in attendance. to see if the planners like your design..

e30fitz

any one have idea on price????????

BryanF

e30fitz wrote: »

any one have idea on price????????

hi E30fitz, see here p26 & 31 also here this will give you an idea. I tend to give a rough estimate of 1000 per Msq excluding council fees, service connections, and professional fees & any unusual site works, but right now its up for debate as we await the price increases from a more onerous set of building regulations TGD L . There are self-builders (and builders) who will shout they've done it cheaper but it all depends on your level of commitment/ involvement, your requirements, and what expertise you can bring to the project.

have you gone back to your engineer?
any new designs on the way?
have you done a provisional BER?
or even a phpp calculation?