L.C OR L.C.A (LEAVING CERT APPLIED)

cena

which one have you done.?

Sykk

I didn't do LCA. It was full of all the wasters in my school who wouldn't have passed their leaving cert. Don't know what it was like anywhere else and no offense if you did LCA

cena

Sykk wrote: »

I didn't do LCA. It was full of all the wasters in my school who wouldn't have passed their leaving cert. Don't know what it was like anywhere else and no offense if you did LCA

Well I have done both

drumlover22

Sykk wrote: »

I didn't do LCA. It was full of all the wasters in my school who wouldn't have passed their leaving cert. Don't know what it was like anywhere else and no offense if you did LCA

That was the same in my school, although I do come from a pretty bad area full of wasters :P

PrincessLola

what is the LCA anyway? Wasn't an option at my school.

Killer Pigeon

Lol @ LCA

cena

PrincessLola wrote: »

what is the LCA anyway? Wasn't an option at my school.

Its only been out the last 8yrs or so I think.

I think its really a way too keep students in school and not leave after the jr cert

It suite people that don't want the stress of the l.c

Sykk

cena wrote: »

It suite people that don't want the stress of the l.c

That's what they said when they advertised it towards the end of 3rd year.

But it's really just a thing where you turn up and get marks, no real exams required.

emeraldstar

PrincessLola wrote: »

what is the LCA anyway? Wasn't an option at my school.

It's the Leaving Cert for Dummies.

Oranage2

Ah LCA maths.

There are 2 boxes, if you take 1 box away, what colour shoes are you wearing?

cena

emeraldstar wrote: »

It's the Leaving Cert for Dummies.

There is also alot of team work in it too. We were told it was a good thing too do if you were going too do a trade.

starbelgrade

cena wrote: »

There is also alot of team work in it too. We were told it was a good thing too do if you were going too do a trade.

So it's the leaving cert for dummies?

cena

starbelgrade wrote: »

So it's the leaving cert for dummies?

Well the lads I did it with at the time weren't school going people. They start fires in the class room etc

One of them brought in a full cooked chicken in one day to class and just started too started to eat it. I could write a book from the lads in this. They were some people they were quite stupid alright.

Oranage2

cena wrote: »

Well the lads I did it with at the time weren't school going people. They start fires in the class room etc

One of them brought in a full cooked chicken in one day to class and just started too started to eat it. I could write a book from the lads in this. They were some people they were quite stupid alright.

Team work?


Today guys we're going to learn how to put out a class room fire and eat chicken....

cena

Oranage2 wrote: »

Team work?


Today guys we're going to learn how to put out a class room fire and eat chicken....

wookwork and metal work. We had to build stuff etc.

kowloon

Does the applied leaving cert give someone point towards going to college or does it rule out that possibility?
Does it still have the same core subjects?

I don't like the way we look down on trades in this country. Lots of people who could have become incredibly skilled cabinetmakers, metalworkers etc. end up avoiding it because of the stigma and instead end up as terrible middle managers with a degree they were never interested in.

Surely people should be encouraged to pursue the things they enjoy and are good at?

cena

kowloon wrote: »

Does the applied leaving cert give someone point towards going to college or does it rule out that possibility?
Does it still have the same core subjects?

I don't like the way we look down on trades in this country. Lots of people who could have become incredibly skilled cabinetmakers, metalworkers etc. end up avoiding it because of the stigma and instead end up as terrible middle managers with a degree they were never interested in.

Surely people should be encouraged to pursue the things they enjoy and are good at?

You can't go too college with the L.C.A as far as I know. You have to go on and do a plc course.

It was hard going from the L.C.A to the lc. Two different things all together

Helix

my little brother did the lca and mother of jesus its a joke

Sykk

OP you know you don't have to justify doing L.C.A to a bunch of people on the internet.

kowloon

cena wrote: »

You can't go too college with the L.C.A as far as I know. You have to go on and do a plc course.

It was hard going from the L.C.A to the lc. Two different things all together

That's pretty harsh. I can't see many choosing the applied over the regular leaving cert if it restricts their options so much.

cena

Sykk wrote: »

OP you know you don't have to justify doing L.C.A to a bunch of people on the internet.

Just seeing what people have done. But by going this I can see very few have done the L.CA.

I for one can say I could be one of very few people that has done both.

Storminateacup

Ew. I did the leaving cert. LCA in our school were full of the knackers, most of which have had their names on the court section of the local paper at least one point in the last 5 years.

They refused to participate with the regular lc students in matters regarding the debs and the end of school celebrations, instead choosing to complain they were excluded.

Only last weekend, I seen one big fat heap of sh it that was in LCA out for Halloween. She came into the bathroom dressed as Riz from the pink ladies and announced to the que that they needed to hurry up because she was "dying for a fuc king piss".

Shudder.

Pherekydes

No option for neither?

Poll fail. Thread fail.

cocoshovel

There was 1 or 2 in my year who did I think. Its more for the people who struggle or find the work very hard to get through etc. Nothing wrong with doing it, the lad I knew who did was sound.
It just has a bad rep because I guess a lot of scumbags do it.

The leaving cert itself is joke as it is and I think it fails to educate people properly and is a poor indication of the true intelligence of people.

Wetai

kowloon wrote: »

That's pretty harsh. I can't see many choosing the applied over the regular leaving cert if it restricts their options so much.

Maybe they feel it's better to actually finish it, as opposed to not bothering and leaving at 3rd year; I'm sure it opens more options than doing neither.

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"I for one can say I could be one of very few people that has done both."
OP, "Both" and "Neither" should be options, considering you have done both, and some mightn't have done either of them.

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A few people in my SS did LCA, while I was in 4th year. There weren't enough people that wanted to do LCA to put it on for our year. I did LC (even if the option was there for LCA), though.

Aoifey!

I did LC, but a lot of my cousins did LCA. Most people I know who did it didn't really do much afterwards, but a few went on to do trades or PLC courses.

Helix

kowloon wrote: »

That's pretty harsh. I can't see many choosing the applied over the regular leaving cert if it restricts their options so much.

the kind of students who do the LCA arent exactly third level material for the most part, shall we say

cena

Helix wrote: »

the kind of students who do the LCA arent exactly third level material for the most part, shall we say

If I could go back in time I wouldn't do it again. I really didn't like the people I was in the class with.

Helix

cena wrote: »

If I could go back in time I wouldn't do it again. I really didn't like the people I was in the class with.

its a solid idea, but it's seen as an easy way for too many people. theres proper potential for that to be a really great course, but the fact that teachers dont seem bothered and that it attracts the dregs (i do accept that it also attracts people who do see it as a genuinely interesting approach though, im not down on everyone doing it, just how its run) hurts it

Aishae

You DO get points for LCA course work, continued assesnent, projects and exams. Those points will not get you a big fancy course like medicine. You have to do a PLC course for that. But you can get some courses without the PLC. However not all colleges will recognise the LCA. That was a problem when I did it in 2000-2002. It was very new then. Maybe things have changed.

I did LCA because I knew from experience that I'd never get the level of assistance understanding what is going on in class (I'm deaf) - they did their best and I aced the jc but the LC was a whole new kettle of fish.

It's true that you get most of the wasters and people who could never pass the LC. But it's not only those that do the LCA. If you do your work and really dig in then it's no free ride.
It's up to the individual to actually dig in and pursue college after (if they want it)

There's terrible stigma around it though.
I'm no waster and I did go to college and I do something with my life. Maybe that's not the usual way LCA students go but you can't tar them all as dummies, wasters and knobheads etc. (I've known my fair share of those though)

flutterflye

Neither.
Got pregnant instead!
I'm still in university though.