Floyd Mayweather Jnr v Manny Pacquiao

leonidas83

http://www.joe.ie/sports/boxing/do-we-finally-have-a-date-for-the-mayweather-v-pacquiao-fight-of-the-century-0017387-1

I know joe.ie isnt the most reliable source but hopefully this will happen, a few papers are reporting it too

Spazdarn

He has the MGM for that date, but nothing indicates it's definitely the Manny fight.

Wild_Dogger

Rumours are that hes trying to line up Erik Morales .

May 5th is a national Mexican celebration I believe .

There'll still be a million fools that will blow 50 brick on PPV to watch it .

Why would you want to fight Pacq, when you can fight that old bar of soap

Littlehorny

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

Rumours are that hes trying to line up Erik Morales .

May 5th is a national Mexican celebration I believe .

There'll still be a million fools that will blow 50 brick on PPV to watch it .

Why would you want to fight Pacq, when you can fight that old bar of soap

Great point wild dogger, this fight will never happen, Mayweather will only fight people he knows he can beat. Pacquio's camp have already been bitching about how they won't be told where and when this fight will take place, too many egos and obstacles!:rolleyes:

colly10

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

Rumours are that hes trying to line up Erik Morales .

May 5th is a national Mexican celebration I believe

complete joke, that's even worse than Pac v Marquez. I have no interest anymore in what these 2 are doing and I think it will not be such a bad thing when they retire. It'll leave room for fighters who want to fight realistic opposition.

Dohnny Jepp

colly10 wrote: »

complete joke, that's even worse than Pac v Marquez. I have no interest anymore in what these 2 are doing and I think it will not be such a bad thing when they retire. It'll leave room for fighters who want to fight realistic opposition.

In mayweathers case of, he dodges great fighters but still fights good fighters.

In pac's case he'll fight anyone.

People say this a lot although usually about the wlad and vitali. That it'll be better for the sport when they retire. Be it pac and pbf or vitali and wlad, I think this is a very false statement. Watching two ok fighters isnt gonna be anymore enjoyable than watching a great fighter againt an ok fighter. If anythin it'll be much worse.

Would la liga be better if barcelona weren't there?

walshb

Makes me wonder if Money is gonna select Erik, what is Khan at? Surely Khan should be close to ready to challenge Floyd? He'd have to be a superior threat than Erik.

As othres have said,, I too couldn't care less if Manny and Floyd meet.

Boooourns

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

In mayweathers case of, he dodges great fighters but still fights good fighters.

In pac's case he'll fight anyone.

People say this a lot although usually about the wlad and vitali. That it'll be better for the sport when they retire. Be it pac and pbf or vitali and wlad, I think this is a very false statement. Watching two ok fighters isnt gonna be anymore enjoyable than watching a great fighter againt an ok fighter. If anythin it'll be much worse.

Would la liga be better if barcelona weren't there?

At a catchweight.

phily2002

colly10 wrote: »

complete joke, that's even worse than Pac v Marquez. I have no interest anymore in what these 2 are doing and I think it will not be such a bad thing when they retire. It'll leave room for fighters who want to fight realistic opposition.

I think Marquez might surprise everyone, I had him beating Pac in the first 2 fights, I know Pacs done alot better at the heavier weights but Marquez will cause him fits with his counter punching...

walshb

phily2002 wrote: »

I think Marquez might surprise everyone, I had him beating Pac in the first 2 fights, I know Pacs done alot better at the heavier weights but Marquez will cause him fits with his counter punching...

Well, look at how both men have progressed. JMM is well on the slide. Manny is now a far better and more complete fighter than when they did meet. I expect a Manny dominance. Faster, stronger, fitter, heavier hitting and juts all around better. JMM is not fast enough now to cause Manny issues.

I had hoped for this fight for a long time but i fear if they ever fight its going to be a final pay day when there nower near there peak que the loser claiming he would have one back in the day

Spazdarn

Boooourns wrote: »

At a catchweight.

Manny will probably abide by the catchweight though, unlike Floyd...

walshb wrote: »

Well, look at how both men have progressed. JMM is well on the slide. Manny is now a far better and more complete fighter than when they did meet. I expect a Manny dominance. Faster, stronger, fitter, heavier hitting and juts all around better. JMM is not fast enough now to cause Manny issues.

Significant gulf in speed if the 24/7 videos are anything to go by...

phily2002

walshb wrote: »

Well, look at how both men have progressed. JMM is well on the slide. Manny is now a far better and more complete fighter than when they did meet. I expect a Manny dominance. Faster, stronger, fitter, heavier hitting and juts all around better. JMM is not fast enough now to cause Manny issues.

thats what peds will do

yeah I know Pacs look a million dollars but he hasn't faced a counter puncher like JMM since they last fought. I think JMM might cause a big upset here. Pac hasn't had a real test since they last fought and if he can't stop JMM I see Marquez taking it on points

Spazdarn

I said earlier in the other thread that I wasn't all that bothered about the Manny and JMM fight, but **** it... it's better than nothing.

It's watching that damn 24/7, gets me hooked on a fight every time..

Wild_Dogger

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

Would la liga be better if barcelona weren't there?

It wouldnt make much difference if they only played Getafe once a year !

Dohnny Jepp

They'd play them 2 to 4 times a year, depending on cup matches etc. Boxers fight 2 to 4 times a year. So leave my analogy alone :P

Spazdarn

I know I've probably read it about 50 times over different mediums but Arum (hardly trustworthy but however...) said yesterday regarding the Mayweather fight that they had taken all conditions out of the negotiations. The blood testing is a non issue for them, though Floyd keeps saying take the test.

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-on-mayweather-pacquiao-testing-money-more--45813

Why don't they push to make this information more public...

moneyman

It's been public for quite a while but Floyd's denial, as well as his fanboy's rejection of such information, is preventing many from seeing it. Mayweather believes that he can hide behind the testing even though it's already been agreed to. He's going to have to think of something else soon.

If I were in Manny's camp I'd be making sure everyone knew about this. How can there even be any doubt about who's stopping this from happening? Such a shame, I don't see how anyone can have any respect for Floyd.

badabing106

Deep down, Mayweather knows, that it is not in his best interest, both financialy and historically, to go down as ducking Pacman .

Dohnny Jepp

Beating Pacman would validate his career. Losing to Pacman would end his beloved unbeaten record.

It must be a tough choice for him to make. I'd say he'd rather be remembered as the unbeaten fighter who ducked pacman, then the guy who had an amazing fight with pacman but lost (assuming he would lose).

Do you think if the fight went ahead that either of them would want a rematch clause?
or would wanting a rematch clause give the other fighter a psychological edge so far as he knows the other guy is not so sure of himself that he will win?
or am i talking bull**** :P

badabing106

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

Beating Pacman would validate his career. Losing to Pacman would end his beloved unbeaten record.

It must be a tough choice for him to make. I'd say he'd rather be remembered as the unbeaten fighter who ducked pacman, then the guy who had an amazing fight with pacman but lost (assuming he would lose).

Do you think if the fight went ahead that either of them would want a rematch clause?
or would wanting a rematch clause give the other fighter a psychological edge so far as he knows the other guy is not so sure of himself that he will win?
or am i talking bull**** :P

Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacman. He is afraid he will lose. I think Mayweather will continue to call out Pacman in Public, but in private will negotiate a completely unreasonable fight contract. Hence no fight ever being made.

walshb

Dohnny Jepp wrote: »

Beating Pacman would validate his career. Losing to Pacman would end his beloved unbeaten record.

It must be a tough choice for him to make. I'd say he'd rather be remembered as the unbeaten fighter who ducked pacman, then the guy who had an amazing fight with pacman but lost (assuming he would lose).

Do you think if the fight went ahead that either of them would want a rematch clause?
or would wanting a rematch clause give the other fighter a psychological edge so far as he knows the other guy is not so sure of himself that he will win?
or am i talking bull**** :P

I think this is a sound post. Money values the 0 too much. Manny to Money is a threat and a risk too far I believe. That is why the drugs obstacle is there. If Money knew he was better and could win, like he did vs. many others, he would take this mega fight.

A rematch clause would be met if the bout was close. But, let us say Money was dominated, I doubt he would want to rematch.

Littlehorny

badabing106 wrote: »

Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacman. He is afraid he will lose. I think Mayweather will continue to call out Pacman in Public, but in private will negotiate a completely unreasonable fight contract. Hence no fight ever being made.

Yeah i read once that when negotiations were started for there first fight that Pacman's management were talking about 40 million each and Mayweather put a halt to these initial talks by demanding a $100 million and not a cent less!

Pal

pair of windy cnuts if you ask me !

boxers my hole !

get it on.

phily2002

well Marquez beats Pac for a 3rd time... what a joke the judges are

Littlehorny

walshb wrote: »

I think this is a sound post. Money values the 0 too much. Manny to Money is a threat and a risk too far I believe. That is why the drugs obstacle is there. If Money knew he was better and could win, like he did vs. many others, he would take this mega fight.

A rematch clause would be met if the bout was close. But, let us say Money was dominated, I doubt he would want to rematch.

Your bang on Walshb, Mayweather has always said he is the greatest of all time cause he's never been beat, he once said he's better than sugar ray robinson cause he has loses on his record! what a joke. I feel he will continue to dodge Pacman cause he doesnt like the fact Pac is younger, has got speed, good chin and can fight twelve rounds at a high tempo. I think Floyd feels he wont be able to repel Pacs attacks all night and until he is sure Pac is fading badly then he wont agree to a fight, by which time Pac will president of the Phillipines or something:D.

The Prodigy 2

Littlehorny wrote: »

Your bang on Walshb, Mayweather has always said he is the greatest of all time cause he's never been beat, he once said he's better than sugar ray robinson cause he has loses on his record! what a joke. I feel he will continue to dodge Pacman cause he doesnt like the fact Pac is younger, has got speed, good chin and can fight twelve rounds at a high tempo. I think Floyd feels he wont be able to repel Pacs attacks all night and until he is sure Pac is fading badly then he wont agree to a fight, by which time Pac will president of the Phillipines or something:D.

Not taking nothing away from pacman as i am a fan, but i do admit that hes over rated . and after seeing his last performance against against Jmm he looked very sloppy missing alot of punches an making many mistakes. floyd "the scientist of boxing" will adapt too his fighting style in the early rounds, an also a big reach advantage an height advantage for floyd.

the only thing he(floyd) would have to worry about is the damage pacman can inflict with one punch as speed will not be a issue !

eagle eye

I don't get why Pacman doesn't agree to the tests unless he is taking something and if thats the case he is a cheat in my book.

Syferus

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't get why Pacman doesn't agree to the tests unless he is taking something and if thats the case he is a cheat in my book.

I'd imagine Pacquiao sees it as an insulting request and that doing so would acknowledge there was question marks when, in reality, there really wasn't any. It's as much a smoke-screen for financial disputes as anything.

moneyman

eagle eye wrote: »

I don't get why Pacman doesn't agree to the tests unless he is taking something and if thats the case he is a cheat in my book.

He's already agreed, multiple times. I honestly don't get how people can claim to follow this sad saga and be on one side without even knowing what's happened.

Pacquiao's fight against Marquez brought about a flurry of non-boxing fans who spouted the same misinformed crap.

gilmour

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/7235880/floyd-mayweather-jr-aide-says-manny-pacquiao-camp-even-talk-fight

Floyd Mayweather Jr. aide: No megafight

The latest round of negotiations for the potential megafight between welterweight champions Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. are over before they have even begun.

Leonard Ellerbe, one of Mayweather's advisors, and Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer both told ESPN.com Monday that they were notified that Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum of Top Rank was not interested in coming to the table.

"We have been informed that Bob Arum is not interested in pursuing a fight between Mayweather and Pacquiao at this time," Schaefer said.

Mayweather knocked out Victor Ortiz in his return to the ring after 16 months off in September, and Pacquiao eked out a controversial majority decision against rival Juan Manuel Marquez in their third meeting Saturday night at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

That set the table for the showdown that looms as the biggest money fight in boxing history, especially with Mayweather announcing two weeks ago that he planned to return May 5 at the MGM Grand and, according to Ellerbe, wanted to "make the biggest fight possible and everyone knows what that fight is, the little fella (Pacquiao)."

However, that does not appear to be the plan Arum and Pacquiao have, even if they had said they were open to it before the Marquez fight.

Schaefer said the notification came in an email from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, the mediator who has worked closely with the sides to settle numerous lawsuits and issues in recent years.

"I am sick and tired of Bob Arum twisting the truth. It's another case of 'yesterday I was lying, today I'm telling the truth,' " Schaefer said, invoking Arum's most famous quote. "The truth of the matter is that we received this afternoon an email from retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who has informed us that Top Rank is pursuing a rematch with Marquez and, therefore, is not interested in immediate talks for a possible Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. This is obviously as clear as it can be that they have no intentions of making a Mayweather-Pacquiao fight. Therefore, Floyd Mayweather will have no other choice than to move on and identify and lock in another opponent for his ring return on May 5."

Schaefer said the plan was to use Weinstein to help them make the Pacquiao-Mayweather fight because he is trusted by both sides and intimately familiar with the problems between the rival promotional companies.

"Judge Weinstein is respected by both parties and mediated issues between Top Rank and Golden Boy before, so the plan was to see if he could help facilitate such a fight. Floyd's team really wanted to get this fight done," Schaefer said. "If you just sit down with Arum, he can at any time have one of his fits, one of his 'f--- you' attacks, and the likelihood that he would have a 'f--- you' attack in front of a retired judge seemed less likely than if Arum and me would be alone in a room."

Arum told ESPN.com that he knew nothing about an email and claimed that nobody from his company had communicated anything about making -- or not making -- a possible Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.

But Arum did say, "We are pursuing a fourth fight with Marquez. As far as doing anything definitively, we aren't ready to do anything definitively. When we are ready to make a determination of what we are going to do, we will do it. We are not going to do this in the press. We will do what is in the best interest of ourselves and our client and make a decision when it's time to. If we decide we want to do a rematch with Marquez, there is no reason to sit down with Mayweather. If we want to explore a Mayweather fight, we will sit down with them. But I'm not going to sit down with them just because it's a good show."

Ellerbe was just as upset as Schaefer was.

[Pacquiao promoter Bob] Arum told ESPN.com that he knew nothing about an email and claimed that nobody from his company had communicated anything about making -- or not making -- a possible Pacquiao-Mayweather fight.
"In my opinion, you have three cowards -- Bob Arum, (Pacquiao trainer) Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao," Ellerbe told ESPN.com. "Now we all know the truth once and for all why this fight hasn't been made. It should be clear to everyone that they don't care what the fans want, especially when Floyd is ready, willing and able to fight Manny Pacquiao now. Floyd said if this isn't clear, he doesn't know what is.

"All along we know why the fight isn't being made. This is the perfect opportunity. Both guys just fought. This is the fight the fans want to see, and it's a disgrace that they are not willing to give the fans what they want. In my opinion, there are three reasons why Arum doesn't want the fight. He knows there is no way that Manny Pacquiao can win, it kills his cash cow, and he wants to do in-house fights where he controls both sides. I said all along why this fight hasn't been made to this point. Manny Pacquiao knows, Bob Arum knows and Freddie Roach knows."

Ellerbe said he and Schaefer would begin exploring potential May 5 opponents for Mayweather.

"We have a number of options, and we will evaluate that and give the fans the biggest fight we can give them," he said. "But before we can get started (on a Pacquiao fight), Top Rank doesn't even want to listen. They're not even interested in Floyd Mayweather. They want no part of Floyd Mayweather. They have no interest in the little fella fighting Floyd. Manny Pacquiao needs to stand up, in my opinion, and tell his promoter that he wants to fight Floyd Mayweather next and stop hiding behind his promoter."

Ellerbe said Mayweather (42-0, 26 KOs) did not watch as Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38 KOs) turned in a shaky performance on Saturday night because he was making a paid appearance at a nightclub in Virginia. Mayweather came out of a 21-month retirement in September 2009 and fought Marquez, dropping him in the second round and winning a near-shutout decision, a far more dominating performance than Pacquiao has had against him in any of their three bouts.

Dan Rafael is the senior boxing writer for ESPN.com. Follow him on Twitter @danrafaelespn

Dohnny Jepp

I think joseph goebbels has come back from the dead to run pbf's propaganda!!

heil Mayweather!

Spazdarn

The Prodigy 2 wrote: »

Not taking nothing away from pacman as i am a fan, but i do admit that hes over rated . and after seeing his last performance against against Jmm he looked very sloppy missing alot of punches an making many mistakes. floyd "the scientist of boxing" will adapt too his fighting style in the early rounds, an also a big reach advantage an height advantage for floyd.

the only thing he(floyd) would have to worry about is the damage pacman can inflict with one punch as speed will not be a issue !

I think there is still a very good chance Manny could beat him... but he's have to make it a war, Mayweather's an unbelievable technical boxer but he's no warrior...

walshb

ToiletFusion wrote: »

I think there is still a very good chance Manny could beat him... but he's have to make it a war, Mayweather's an unbelievable technical boxer but he's no warrior...

I believe Floyd can slug it out if needed, and give across that warrior view. Mostly he never needs to, but Floyd has shown on many occasions that he can slug it out, rough it up and impose his strength. He is deceptively strong, as Hatton found out, and Mosley.

If they do meet I think it will be quite a cautious affair. Neither man willing to attack all that much. Pac in fear of being countered badly, and Floyd, well, because he isn't all that aggressive or attacking a fighter. Intriguing match up.

Love to see it, but time sure is running out. I still think Manny can cause Floyd major issues. I wouldn't be gauging Manny's chances against Floyd based on him not appearing all that good vs JMM. Floyd and JMM, although both slick, and counter punchers, are still quite different.

cowzerp

Floyd will expose Manny just like he did Hatton, after the fight people will think Manny was always overrated, before it people will give him a chance but i don't give him any at all.

Syferus

cowzerp wrote: »

Floyd will expose Manny just like he did Hatton, after the fight people will think Manny was always overrated, before it people will give him a chance but i don't give him any at all.

Pacquiao is on a different level to Hatton and Pacquiao's speed will trouble any fighter in the world.

Spazdarn

walshb wrote: »

I believe Floyd can slug it out if needed, and give across that warrior view. Mostly he never needs to, but Floyd has shown on many occasions that he can slug it out, rough it up and impose his strength. He is deceptively strong, as Hatton found out, and Mosley.

If they do meet I think it will be quite a cautious affair. Neither man willing to attack all that much. Pac in fear of being countered badly, and Floyd, well, because he isn't all that aggressive or attacking a fighter. Intriguing match up.

Love to see it, but time sure is running out. I still think Manny can cause Floyd major issues. I wouldn't be gauging Manny's chances against Floyd based on him not appearing all that good vs JMM. Floyd and JMM, although both slick, and counter punchers, are still quite different.

A cautious and tentative fight suits Floyd down to the ground. High tempo and controlled aggression is what Manny should be looking to do..

I think there's a massive gulf in skill and talent between Manny and Hatton. Hatton was nowhere near as good as the British media would have had you believe. There was a lot of boxers around then that would have beaten him.

walshb

ToiletFusion wrote: »

I think there's a massive gulf in skill and talent between Manny and Hatton. Hatton was nowhere near as good as the British media would have had you believe. There was a lot of boxers around then that would have beaten him.

I agree. Liked Hatton, but really just a tough brawler/slugger. I don't think Paul was comparing Manny to Ricky, just saying that PBF will expose Manny the way he did Hatton.

Means Of Escape

cowzerp wrote: »

Floyd will expose Manny just like he did Hatton, after the fight people will think Manny was always overrated, before it people will give him a chance but i don't give him any at all.

Agree
mayweather is a far more polished and natural boxer and I expect he would win the fight hands down.
In fact it would embarrass Manny into retirement as it did loud mouth Hatton

Littlehorny

Would love to see the fight take place and its all a matter of personal opinion would win at this stage but the point i want to make is, its amazing how cocky and vocal the Mayweather camp have become after Pac's sub par performance. they were not as vocal after pacquios performances against Hatton, De la hoya, cotto and Margarita. there is no question Floyd possess great skills but when he talks outside the ring, you cannot help but hate the guy, imo the man is one serious asshole!

Means Of Escape

Littlehorny wrote: »

Would love to see the fight take place and its all a matter of personal opinion would win at this stage but the point i want to make is, its amazing how cocky and vocal the Mayweather camp have become after Pac's sub par performance. they were not as vocal after pacquios performances against Hatton, De la hoya, cotto and Margarita. there is no question Floyd possess great skills but when he talks outside the ring, you cannot help but hate the guy, imo the man is one serious asshole!

Ali was the loudest mouth outside the ring in boxing history yet when it came to it he really spoke with his fists.
All hype and promotion for all fights,gets the crowd going.
You only have to look at the condition of each fighters faces after their fights.
Tells me alot that Mayweather always looks the fresher of the two!!
Think he has the greater skill and is more of a tactical fighter.
If enough money is on the table it will happen

Scanlas The 2nd

Syferus wrote: »

Pacquiao is on a different level to Hatton and Pacquiao's speed will trouble any fighter in the world.

Have a read of the posts about hatton 4+ years ago.

minty16

I don't think there is doubt who really won the JJM - Pac Man fight. Only people with Philipino glasses would have called it for MP , and I don't think his mother would have called it a 116-112 fight! Anyway, my point is - Look at how JMM counter punched, look at how he defended, moved his feet - all orchestrating a clear victory over Manny. I know styles make fights, etc etc.. BUT..Floyd Mayweather is in my opinion the best counter puncher of all time. I'm not saying he is flawless, or that he is another Juan Marquez, but if JMM can map out the fight, and put his game plan into effect so well, then IMO, it is certain that PBF can do it too. Pac can and will cause any fighter problems, I think he will cause PBF problems if they meet (IMO they wont), but PBF is the superior boxer. Marquez and Pac Man will meet in Vegas next May, JMM will be another year older, and I believe Pac is a strong favourite for the 4th installment. But I can't see him beating Floyd - the other night just made it clearer.

Dohnny Jepp

minty16 wrote: »

I don't think there is doubt who really won the JJM - Pac Man fight. Only people with Philipino glasses would have called it for MP , and I don't think his mother would have called it a 116-112 fight! Anyway, my point is - Look at how JMM counter punched, look at how he defended, moved his feet - all orchestrating a clear victory over Manny. I know styles make fights, etc etc.. BUT..Floyd Mayweather is in my opinion the best counter puncher of all time. I'm not saying he is flawless, or that he is another Juan Marquez, but if JMM can map out the fight, and put his game plan into effect so well, then IMO, it is certain that PBF can do it too. Pac can and will cause any fighter problems, I think he will cause PBF problems if they meet (IMO they wont), but PBF is the superior boxer. Marquez and Pac Man will meet in Vegas next May, JMM will be another year older, and I believe Pac is a strong favourite for the 4th installment. But I can't see him beating Floyd - the other night just made it clearer.

I don't know how you can say a pbf win is "certain". I think manny and roach will learn from that fight with jmm so if anything, they will game plan better for pbf.

I really don't know how u can say any outcome between those two is certain

beckham23

Well called ,pity Marquez was Robbed.

phily2002 wrote: »

thats what peds will do

yeah I know Pacs look a million dollars but he hasn't faced a counter puncher like JMM since they last fought. I think JMM might cause a big upset here. Pac hasn't had a real test since they last fought and if he can't stop JMM I see Marquez taking it on points

The Prodigy 2

Floyd promises too return feb 2012.. Wonder who he'l fight ??

walshb

The Prodigy 2 wrote: »

Floyd promises too return feb 2012.. Wonder who he'l fight ??

Some world class operator. Maybe Matthew Hatton?

horsemeat

I can see now with spiteful little comments like that why you were removed as a moderator.

http://blogs.bettor.com/Michael-Koncz-reveals-Manny-Pacquiaos-next-opponent-has-not-been-negotiated-Boxing-news-a114293

No worries for Floyd with this one. Pacquiao has been shown up for what he really is.

Spazdarn

You idolise Mayweather, and only address his opponents or future opponents by childish nicknames... you don't follow boxing, you follow Floyd.

Wild_Dogger

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

It wouldnt make much difference if they only played Getafe once a year !

Ironic that Getafe just beat Barca 1-0 ....... pfft

walshb

horsemeat wrote: »

I can see now with spiteful little comments like that why you were removed as a moderator.

http://blogs.bettor.com/Michael-Koncz-reveals-Manny-Pacquiaos-next-opponent-has-not-been-negotiated-Boxing-news-a114293

No worries for Floyd with this one. Pacquiao has been shown up for what he really is.

It was an attempt at humor. Lost on you.