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Asteroid to pass nearby

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,036 ✭✭✭BArra


    any times known yet for us irish viewers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Weylin


    ?m=02&d=20111104&t=2&i=527440926&w=460&fh=&fw=&ll=&pl=&r=BTRE7A31LMR00 This radar image of asteroid 2005 YU55 was generated from data taken in April of 2010 by the Arecibo Radar Telescope in Puerto Rico.
    Credit: Reuters/NASA/Cornell/Arecibo/Handout





    By Irene Klotz
    CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla | Fri Nov 4, 2011 4:44pm EDT

    CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla (Reuters) - A huge asteroid will pass closer to Earth than the moon on Tuesday, giving scientists a rare chance for study without having to go through the time and expense of launching a probe, officials said.
    Earth's close encounter with Asteroid 2005 YU 55 will occur at 6:28 p.m. EST on Tuesday, as the space rock sails about 201,000 miles from the planet.
    "It is the first time since 1976 that an object of this size has passed this closely to the Earth. It gives us a great -- and rare -- chance to study a near-Earth object like this," astronomer Scott Fisher, a program director with the National Science Foundation, said on Friday during a Web chat with reporters.
    The orbit and position of the asteroid, which is about 1,312 feet in diameter, is well known, added senior research scientist Don Yeomans, with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.
    "There is no chance that this object will collide with the Earth or moon," Yeomans said.
    Thousands of amateur and professional astronomers are expected to track YU 55's approach, which will be visible from the planet's northern hemisphere. It will be too dim to be seen with the naked eye, however, and it will be moving too fast for viewing by the Hubble Space Telescope.
    "The best time to observe it would be in the early evening on November 8 from the East Coast of the United States," Yeomans said. "It is going to be very faint, even at its closest approach. You will need a decent-sized telescope to be able to actually see the object as it flies by."
    Scientists suspect YU 55 has been visiting Earth for thousands of years, but because gravitational tugs from the planets occasionally tweak its path, they cannot tell for sure how long the asteroid has been in its present orbit.
    "These sorts of events have been happening for most of the lifetime of the Earth, about 4.5 billion years," Fisher said.
    Computer models showing the asteroid's path for the next 100 years show there is no chance it will hit Earth during that time, added Yeomans.
    "We do not think that it will ever impact the Earth or moon (but) we only have its orbit calculated for the next 100 years," he said.
    Previous studies show the asteroid, which is blacker than charcoal, is what is called a C-type asteroid that is likely made of carbon-based materials and some silicate rock.
    More information about its composition and structure are expected from radar images and chemical studies of its light as the asteroid passes by the planet.
    "I've read that we will be able to see details down to a size of about 15 feet across on the surface of the asteroid," Fisher said.
    NASA is working on a mission to return soil samples from an asteroid known as 1999 RQ36 in 2020, followed by a human mission to another asteroid in the mid-2020s.
    Japan also plans to launch an asteroid sample return mission in 2018.
    (Editing by Tom Brown and Philip Barbara)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 692 ✭✭✭CyberJuice


    its only the size of an aircraft carrier :(

    shame there will be none the size of a small country passing by as i dont have a telescope and this one apparently wont be visable with the naked eye


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭Tin Foil Hat


    CyberJuice wrote: »

    shame there will be none the size of a small country passing by as i dont have a telescope and this one apparently wont be visable with the naked eye


    Probably best that an asteroid that big isn't passing that close, to be honest.
    What with that nasty gravity, and stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭nirvanaholic


    BArra wrote: »
    any times known yet for us irish viewers?

    The asteroid will make its closest approach to Earth at 3:28 p.m. PST....(i think this is +8hrs for Ireland so that would make it 11:28pm Tuesday night for us.

    http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/asteroidwatch/newsfeatures.cfm?release=2011-332


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Weylin


    Asteroid-Yu55-007.jpg An image of asteroid Yu55, made from radar data taken in April 2010. Photograph: AP

    Astronomers around the world have readied their telescopes to catch a glimpse of a speeding ball of rock that will hurtle past the Earth on Tuesday night.
    Scientists say the asteroid, which is about a quarter of a mile wide, will pass inside the moon's orbit and come within 198,000 miles (319,000km) of Earth at 23.28GMT. This is the closest a tracked object this size has come to the planet.
    Nasa calculates the 400-metre (1,312ft) wide asteroid, known as 2005 YU55, has roughly has a one in 10 million chance of hitting Earth in the next century. Were it to strike, the collision would unleash the equivalent of several thousand megatonnes of TNT.
    Even with clear skies the asteroid will not be visible to the naked eye, but professional and amateur astronomers will turn their telescopes on the rock to learn about its surface and chemical composition.
    Because the asteroid is approaching from the sun's direction, there will be too much glare to observe the rock with optical or infra-red telescopes until the day of closest approach.
    "Most of the asteroids we see are so far out that we only get a small amount of information from the light reflected off them," said Kevin Yates, at the Near Earth Objects Information Centre at the National Space Centre in Leicester. "Because this one is coming in so close we'll be able to get more radar observations, which will give us a detailed surface map, and be able to get more of a chemical signature on the minerals it's made up from."
    The Arecibo telescope in Puerto Rico last year revealed the asteroid to be remarkably spherical while its surface is very dark, suggesting it is rich in carbon.
    Observatories at Nasa's Goldstone Deep Space Communications Complex, in the Mojave desert of California, and at Green Bank, West Virginia, will join forces with Arecibo to watch the asteroid pass this week. Operators have called on scores of amateur astronomers to help with observations, using 10-12in telescopes with special filters.
    A similar flyby will not happen until 2028 when asteroid 2001 WN5 swings past the Earth at a distance of 143,000 miles.
    "We are finding a whole variety of unusual shapes out there and this asteroid is particularly spherical. If we can characterise them more and understand them more, then if we ever do have a threat from one, understanding the structure and the materials they're made from would better equip us to divert one. It may be that there are materials on board that could be used as a fuel to drive an engine that would push it into a different orbit over 20 years," Yates added.
    The asteroid is among the most ancient objects in the solar system, having formed from the dust and gas disc that surrounded the sun 4.5bn years ago. Though born in the asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter the rock was pulled by gravity or nudged by collisions on to its new orbital course.
    "These are the building blocks left over from when the solar system formed and this particular carbonaceous asteroid is one of the most primitive types," Yates said. "Understanding its chemical composition is like looking into the ingredients book to see how it was put together."
    The asteroid will pass close to Venus in 2029, which will disturb its orbit to mean its next passage past Earth, in 2041, could be between 198,000 miles and nearly 30m miles from the planet. The close encounter after that will be with Mars in 2072.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,565 ✭✭✭losthorizon




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Weylin


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    By Mark Brown, Wired UK
    An asteroid the size of an aircraft carrier is to soar past the Earth this week and, while NASA is certain that the space rock will not hit us, it will be our closest encounter with such a large chunk of rock in three decades.

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    The 400-yard-wide asteroid is called 2005 YU55 and at the point of closest approach it will graze our planet at 201,700 miles — about ten percent closer to Earth than the Moon’s typical orbit.

    It is the “closest approach by an asteroid, that large, that we’ve known about in advance,” said principal investigator Lance Benner, from NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory, in an educational announcement. This gives the space agency an unprecedented view of such a rare flyby — and it will take full advantage.

    The North American space administration will track 2005 YU55 from the Deep Space Network at Goldstone California, and provide radar observations from the Arecibo Planetary Radar Facility in Puerto Rico. This should reveal a wealth of detail about the asteroid’s surface features, shape, and dimensions.
    The Arecibo radar telescope spotted the asteroid back in April 2010, and those observations provided the ghostly image of YU55, above. NASA hopes to get higher resolution snaps — with details as fine as two meters per pixel — this month.
    But what about amateur astronomers, will they be able to see it? “Absolutely,” said NASA astronomer and YU55 investigator Marina Brozovic in the announcement. “8 November is when it becomes a night time object and that is when you can see it.”
    “400 meters, I’d say, is a moderate size asteroid, but it’s still small and very far away. You’ll need at least a six inch telescope in order to be able to observe it. You’ll see it buzzing really fast along the sky,” said Brozovic.
    “The pass’ track is especially favorable for western Europe and North America. But you’ll need to know exactly where and when to look,” wrote Kelly Beatty, senior contributing editor of Sky and Telescope magazine.
    The when is 23:28 UK time on 8 November. As for the where, Beatty wrote that, “the object will traverse the 70 degrees of sky eastward from Aquila to central Pegasus in just ten hours, clipping along at seven arcseconds per second.” A star chart is available here.
    2005 YU55 is trapped in an orbit that frequently brings it back to Earth and our nearby neighboring planets — but the 2011 encounter with Earth is the closest this space rock has come for at least the last 200 years. NASA is certain that it will miss us, and “the gravitational influence of the asteroid will have no detectable effect on anything here on Earth, including our planet’s tides or tectonic plates.”
    Plus, “we have a very good idea about its orbit for the following hundred years and there is no chance of impact,” said Brozovic in the announcement. “We believe with these upcoming measurements at Arecibo and Goldstone we will remove this threat even further — probably for many centuries.”
    Image: NASA/Cornell/Arecibo/JPL-Caltech


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,324 ✭✭✭Cork boy 55


    What sort of damage would that bad boy do?

    if it hit that is!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭Weylin


    What sort of damage would that bad boy do?

    if it hit that is!
    lets put it this way....i dont think fully comp would cover it.....:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,632 ✭✭✭NoQuarter


    No chance of seeing it with the naked eye then no?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭afterhours


    I don't understand why they don't show any other image of this asteroid.. That image posted everywhere is all pixelated and ****e and very haunting. I'm sure with all our awesome technology, there could have been a better photo.. grrr.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 38 Necron


    The haunting pixleated effect helps to add the the mystery of the asteroid for the average Joe.

    I'm just annoyed that i've had to move from the country to the city for uni and my sky is always bleached with orange :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    afterhours wrote: »
    I don't understand why they don't show any other image of this asteroid.. That image posted everywhere is all pixelated and ****e and very haunting. I'm sure with all our awesome technology, there could have been a better photo.. grrr.

    That's as good as it gets without parking a prob beside it. It's the same concept as Hubble getting a look a Pluto. It's all about size and distance.

    Try looking at an aircraft carrier 2-3 miles off the coast with a decent set of binos, now put the same object at the Moons distance and try it with the best ground scope we have. See the problem?

    Current optics just physically cannot do that. Come back in 100 years and try again maybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,621 ✭✭✭Panda


    I'm not holding out much hope of seeing it.

    According to this site

    "Unfortunately there are a couple of factors working against the casual observer being able to witness YU55′s pass.
    One: it’s a dark object. A very dark object. 2005 YU55 is a C-type asteroid, which means it is composed of carbonaceous
    material and is thus effectively darker than coal, reflecting less than 1% of the sunlight that it receives. "

    I'll still take out the camera though...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    Two things strike me about this.
    1. This thing has just passed close to the sun, as it absorbs so much light shouldn't it be glowing in infrared.
    2. The rapid heating and cooling the outside layer of the asteroid recieves possibly weathered it into its spherical shape. Could there be a debris field following?


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    just came across this.

    The free and online coverage of the flyby of YU55.
    The Slooh telescope will be hosting a live webcast of the flyby on Nov. 8, 2011.

    Find out more:

    [link to events.slooh.com]



    http://events.slooh.com/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61 ✭✭nirvanaholic


    Great, I hope to see the asteroid. Even to see it as it flies by on a webcam would be ok!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭ceejay


    Jake1 wrote: »
    just came across this.

    The free and online coverage of the flyby of YU55.
    The Slooh telescope will be hosting a live webcast of the flyby on Nov. 8, 2011.

    Find out more:

    [link to events.slooh.com]



    http://events.slooh.com/

    There's an Android app for viewing the events on your phone too: https://market.android.com/details?id=com.slooh&rdid=com.slooh&rdot=1

    I'll give this a go tonight :)


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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Great, I hope to see the asteroid. Even to see it as it flies by on a webcam would be ok!

    yeah, better than nothing right ? :) heres hoping we get a good view :D

    2hrs 55 mins left...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭irishh_bob


    CyberJuice wrote: »
    its only the size of an aircraft carrier :(

    shame there will be none the size of a small country passing by as i dont have a telescope and this one apparently wont be visable with the naked eye

    even the one in armageddon was only the size of texas , your being greedy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    I think we'll survive this one. The earth appears to have wrapped itself in a protective blanket of cloud.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NASA link live to discussion about YU55 now, for everything you wanted to know , but where afraid to ask :)




    http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl2


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 100 ✭✭afterhours


    That's as good as it gets without parking a prob beside it. It's the same concept as Hubble getting a look a Pluto. It's all about size and distance.

    Try looking at an aircraft carrier 2-3 miles off the coast with a decent set of binos, now put the same object at the Moons distance and try it with the best ground scope we have. See the problem?

    Current optics just physically cannot do that. Come back in 100 years and try again maybe.


    I say 20 years, we're moving so quick with technology, I wouldn't be surprised if it's before then. Anyways, they did come out with a new clearer image of the space rock today, but nothing has changed really. Only an hour left!! EEEEEEEEEE!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Squall19


    So when its going hit?:D

    30 mins left?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭youtube!


    Could this baby theoretically hit a peice of space junk and send it hurtling towards us? That could be fun.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Squall19


    afterhours wrote: »
    I say 20 years, we're moving so quick with technology, I wouldn't be surprised if it's before then. Anyways, they did come out with a new clearer image of the space rock today, but nothing has changed really. Only an hour left!! EEEEEEEEEE!!!!

    They would need a much bigger telescope than Hubble.

    It's not even about technology, we have it.

    Its money, motivation, politics etc

    We don’t have money to build a 150 meter telescope ( 70 times bigger than Hubble )

    They are talking about building a 42 meter telescope in Europe in 2020, so you could be right.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Couldn't they use it as target practice in the event of a bigger one coming to get us?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭Aussie201


    i saw it..nothing but a tiny dot moving kinda slowly


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    david75 wrote: »
    Couldn't they use it as target practice in the event of a bigger one coming to get us?

    Who's "they"? And what kind of target practice?


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