People cheating already :(

tuxy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlFPG9hAK0o

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/surreywhat/stats/194382209/

.K.A.L.I.M.A.

Thank God I have BATTLEFIELD 3 for the PS3.....

jackoire

tuxy wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlFPG9hAK0o

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/soldier/surreywhat/stats/194382209/

Just need servers with admins to ban and also lots of servers streaming to PBbans, not to worry.

Expect MW3 to be riddled with hackers on all platforms as usual..

.K.A.L.I.M.A.

jackoire wrote: »

Just need servers with admins to ban and also lots of servers streaming to PBbans, not to worry.

Expect MW3 to be riddled with hackers on all platforms as usual..

Don't forget about the twelve year old kids and the campers..... especially the campers.

Headshot

Its sad that a player needs to cheat in a game. Why ruin it for everyone else.

I just dont get it tbh. Where's the fun, where's the sense of achievement, idk tbh alot of gamers these days are just idiots that have no sense of community

KilOit

Was on a server with an aim botter yesterday, named masterk1ll3r lol. Basically using a m249 and blasting everything in sight, has a 30 k/d ratio and match ended with him with 160 kills and 4 deaths, the whole 64 man server left after the fist game, I just don't see the point in it.

Drexel

How can you tell if someone is cheating?? Is it just the amount of kills they have?? Does punkbuster not stop all that??

aN.Droid

jonny666 wrote: »

How can you tell if someone is cheating?? Is it just the amount of kills they have?? Does punkbuster not stop all that??

If a cheater is smart and plays legit he can get away with not being spotted at all. Someone who does not use an aimbot in a way that will show him as a cheater such as 180 turn headshots or 5 or 6 kills in a row multiple times can get away with not being spotted either. Legit is just terminology and is nowhere near legit playing.

Someone who cheats to annoy or troll is called a rager. They will have maximum features of there hack enabled such as full aimbot, see through walls, sometimes even speed hacks. These are the people who will empty a server.

Punkbuster works in a way that it has to get the signature of a hack to be able to ban a person using it. Sometimes this is very difficult for them as the hack developer will have used very smart ways around it such as streaming hacks. Most of the hacks that won't get you banned will cost allot of money or will be private where only a certain amount of people will have it, therefore making it impossible for punkbuster to get the signature of the hack.

Not advocating hacking, just trying to educate

Drexel

Limericks wrote: »

If a cheater is smart and plays legit he can get away with not being spotted at all. Someone who does not use an aimbot in a way that will show him as a cheater such as 180 turn headshots or 5 or 6 kills in a row multiple times can get away with not being spotted either. Legit is just terminology and is nowhere near legit playing.

Someone who cheats to annoy or troll is called a rager. They will have maximum features of there hack enabled such as full aimbot, see through walls, sometimes even speed hacks. These are the people who will empty a server.

Punkbuster works in a way that it has to get the signature of a hack to be able to ban a person using it. Sometimes this is very difficult for them as the hack developer will have used very smart ways around it such as streaming hacks. Most of the hacks that won't get you banned will cost allot of money or will be private where only a certain amount of people will have it, therefore making it impossible for punkbuster to get the signature of the hack.

Not advocating hacking, just trying to educate

Ah thanks for the info. Ive been in a few games where the top rated player has over 50 kills in a match and only one or two deaths and I was wondering about them. Why bother. No fun in that at all. Them peoples ip addresses should be logged and given a permanent battlefield ban

aN.Droid

jonny666 wrote: »

Ah thanks for the info. Ive been in a few games where the top rated player has over 50 kills in a match and only one or two deaths and I was wondering about them. Why bother. No fun in that at all. Them peoples ip addresses should be logged and given a permanent battlefield ban

Sadly IP bans wouldn't do much and even if there was an effective way to perma ban someone from a game EA or Activision or any game's publisher would never go for it. The way they see it, if someone hacks and get's there key banned, they are probably going to buy another copy, which is more money in there pockets. It's sad, but they are in the end of the day a business.

Genghiz Cohen

On the point of where's the fun.
Back in the day I used to be well into CSS and our clan was in the Enemy Down league, so I'd browse the forums. There I found a high profile player confess to being a hacker, he claimed that it was the most fun he ever had playing a game.
I don't get it, you guys don't get it but someone who did hack had a load of fun and I suppose until you try it you'll never know.
And I'm comfortable with never knowing.

When I was around 14, I got bored playing Doom on God mode and realised that cheating is a hallow means to a pointless end. Anything other than a fair challenge is a waste of effort, which is why when I played WoW I avoided ganking as well.

People who do cheat - never got beyond that early teen desire to win above all else. It's a maturity thing, which when you think about it - should make you feel better, knowing that the person cheating is either an asshole troll or a child.

Plenty of servers out there, tag the ones with cheaters and dont go to them if they aren't moderated.

dreamers75

Some players are just really really good and some are really really bad. Which leads to a witchhunt.

See a cheater post it on there battlelog after the round or report them via battlelog.

Its what its there for public shaming.

KeithAFC

You will always get hackers and cheats.

TheFairy

Join a server with an admin present as much as possible. Problem sorted.

tuxy

TheFairy wrote: »

Join a server with an admin present as much as possible. Problem sorted.

How can you tell if there is an admin on the server?

Genghiz Cohen

tuxy wrote: »

How can you tell if there is an admin on the server?

Say, "This server sucks and is run by raging homersexuals!!1!!11one!!"
If you get banned, the server has an admin on.

jonski

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Say, "This server sucks and is run by raging homersexuals!!1!!11one!!"
If you get banned, the server has an admin on.

works for me !

mozattack

.K.A.L.I.M.A. wrote: »

Thank God I have BATTLEFIELD 3 for the PS3.....

Agree big time...

Some shinery graphics and to be part of a pointless 32 man team versus another 32 (how can 1 player or even 1 squad make a difference in such numbers) and to have to deal with all the cheating and crap....

mozattack

mozattack wrote: »

Agree big time...

Some shinery graphics and to be part of a pointless 32 man team versus another 32 (how can 1 player or even 1 squad make a difference in such numbers) and to have to deal with all the cheating and crap....

Just lol.

Dublin_Gunner

mozattack wrote: »

Agree big time...

Some shinery graphics and to be part of a pointless 32 man team versus another 32 (how can 1 player or even 1 squad make a difference in such numbers) and to have to deal with all the cheating and crap....

Says a person who's obviously never played the PC version.....

1 squad working well together can decimate an entire enemy team, or at the very least sway the game in their teams favour.

wandatowell

Came up against a cheater there a few mins ago. TBH I wouldn't have known that he was cheating if it wasnt for the video so cheers for that. The guy had 45 kills and 2 deaths. Only played for 17hrs and has a crazy amount of points.

Funny thing being I was kicked from the server by an admin because of the abuse I was giving the cheater!!!!

Im gonna flick into Charles Bronson mode

SeantheMan

I feel safe in my tank

tuxy

SeantheMan wrote: »

I feel safe in my tank

Lets see if the cheaters start using choppers

copeyhagen

i remember when bf2 went live, there was a file you could change to give yourself every weapon and set your rank to the final rank.. nearly sure it was bf2. and yes, i done it.. **ashamed!"

the_syco

.K.A.L.I.M.A. wrote: »

Thank God I have BATTLEFIELD 3 for the PS3.....

So you can jailbreak it, use an aimbot hack off a USB stick, and not get kicked as there are no admins on the server? Or are you naive and think that there are no hacks for the PS3 version?

mozattack

I see the winner on the PS3 leaderboard has a SPM of >1,000.

How is that possible, even if cheating!?

mozattack

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Says a person who's obviously never played the PC version.....

1 squad working well together can decimate an entire enemy team, or at the very least sway the game in their teams favour.

Don't see how that is possible to be honest... 1 person from a team of 32.

MajesticDonkey

TheFairy wrote: »

Join a server with an admin present as much as possible. Problem sorted.

Exactly. I've lost count of the amount of games I've played where a message appears in the console about people that have been banned for using hacks.

Spacedog

nerd question: how do aimbots actually work?

I have no interest in cheating, but am curious about how they actually work?do they control the mouse, or manipulate the packets sent by the game etc.

SD?

MajesticDonkey

Wikipedia has a good pile of info... :cool:

popflop

Played for 15 hours now(Battlelog) and i haven't ran into any obvious cheaters so far if i did they just get banned straight away by PunkBuster.

copeyhagen

mozattack wrote: »

Agree big time...

Some shinery graphics and to be part of a pointless 32 man team versus another 32 (how can 1 player or even 1 squad make a difference in such numbers) and to have to deal with all the cheating and crap....

omgg.

call of duty rang, they need you back for the new modern warfare.

game4it70

I was playing last night on a server where a nasty barsteward of a hacker came on.

At the start of the round he killed 32 of us as soon as we spawned.Then after that i didn't spawn in but could see the traces of the bullets hitting everyone from the deploy screen.

What worse was half my team where stupid enough to keep spawning and giving him more kills even after people typing in chat saying dont spawn and he should leave.He had about 160-0 kd at the end of the round because of people respawning.

Pb was on but didn't pick his hacks up :mad::mad::mad:

Cherry_Cola

This is on Xbox but on every hardcore game I go to, there are people boosting with the EOD repair bots.

It's the most annoying thing. All I can do is keep killing them until they leave but it's beyond sad what some folks get up to.

mozattack

copeyhagen wrote: »

omgg.

call of duty rang, they need you back for the new modern warfare.

Once you go back to Train Simulator Master Part IV then?

The fact remains that being 1 of 12 leads you to have more involvement in actually winning the round and even at that you are at the mercy of 11 others. Being 1 of 32 on a team is pointless in that sense, your only making up the numbers.

copeyhagen

mozattack wrote: »

Once you go back to Train Simulator Master Part IV then?

The fact remains that being 1 of 12 leads you to have more involvement in actually winning the round and even at that you are at the mercy of 11 others. Being 1 of 32 on a team is pointless in that sense, your only making up the numbers.

stop, just stop. you cant realistically believe that this game could be better on console than on pc?!!!! (yes i have played it on ps3)

in the pc version you can pick what size game you want to play in, 18 man, 32, 64 etc. nobody HAS to play 64 man servers.

i have seen games where every squad on a 32 man team has worked together to annihilate the other team.

Dublin_Gunner

mozattack wrote: »

Don't see how that is possible to be honest... 1 person from a team of 32.

Its a team game. This isn't CoD.

And if you want an example of how 1 person can make a difference, lets pick the Medic.

Lets say your team wins by 10 tickets, and you, as a medic, got 15 revives during the round.

You saved your team 15 tickets, thereby swaying the result in your teams favour.

However, it would most likely be a group of medics that saved those tickets, let alone the support players ensuring people had ammo, and the engineers taking out enemy armour etc

Stop thinking its 'me against the world' - that's not how Battlefield is played.

Jumpy

Highest scores on a lot of the servers I play have zero kills. THey are just awesome medics.

SeantheMan

Jumpy wrote: »

Highest scores on a lot of the servers I play have zero kills. THey are just awesome medics.

Or they spot, or repair, or resupply the team or any number of helpful team orientated things

Jumpy

I love spotting tanks already under fire, guaranteed points

jeawan

Genghiz Cohen wrote: »

Say, "This server sucks and is run by raging homersexuals!!1!!11one!!"
If you get banned, the server has an admin on.

Was on a server the other night and playing with my four mates we where doing quite well and got server baned due to t he fact we where kicking a couple of the guys asses who ran the server . Not all admins are fair either , i don't see the point of cheating in games like this they are there for fun i play with friends and we do well while playing simple as we work as a team . guy cheating are annoying as hell , Admins baning people just because then are losing is sad too

jeawan

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Its a team game. This isn't CoD.

And if you want an example of how 1 person can make a difference, lets pick the Medic.

Lets say your team wins by 10 tickets, and you, as a medic, got 15 revives during the round.

You saved your team 15 tickets, thereby swaying the result in your teams favour.

However, it would most likely be a group of medics that saved those tickets, let alone the support players ensuring people had ammo, and the engineers taking out enemy armour etc

Stop thinking its 'me against the world' - that's not how Battlefield is played.

On that note i generally play support , while playing a 64 man server last ngiht i choose to play Assault along with every other person on my site bar the engineers i ran out of ammo along with most are side due to people always getting resed i re spawned and came back as support and then see 5 guys playing the same class

AnCapaillMor

jeawan wrote: »

Was on a server the other night and playing with my four mates we where doing quite well and got server baned due to t he fact we where kicking a couple of the guys asses who ran the server . Not all admins are fair either , i don't see the point of cheating in games like this they are there for fun i play with friends and we do well while playing simple as we work as a team . guy cheating are annoying as hell , Admins baning people just because then are losing is sad too

Yeah admins banning really boils my blood, happened to me so many times in 2142.

TheFairy

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Stop thinking its 'me against the world' - that's not how Battlefield is played.

Best quote ever describing how to play BF3! Hooah!

mozattack

Dublin_Gunner wrote: »

Its a team game. This isn't CoD.

And if you want an example of how 1 person can make a difference, lets pick the Medic.

Lets say your team wins by 10 tickets, and you, as a medic, got 15 revives during the round.

You saved your team 15 tickets, thereby swaying the result in your teams favour.

However, it would most likely be a group of medics that saved those tickets, let alone the support players ensuring people had ammo, and the engineers taking out enemy armour etc

Stop thinking its 'me against the world' - that's not how Battlefield is played.

"You saved your team 15 tickets, thereby swaying the result in your teams favour"... not if there is a medic on the other team doing the same thing.

Where did I say that the game doesn't involve teamwork by the way? I am just saying that the more play, the less impact 1 good player/squad can have. Isn't that obvious no?

Say football was 22 v 22 on a pitch 1.5 times the size, surely you agree then that the more gifted players would be less obvious. Same principle.

mozattack

copeyhagen wrote: »

stop, just stop. you cant realistically believe that this game could be better on console than on pc?!!!! (yes i have played it on ps3)

in the pc version you can pick what size game you want to play in, 18 man, 32, 64 etc. nobody HAS to play 64 man servers.

i have seen games where every squad on a 32 man team has worked together to annihilate the other team.

Excuse me but how can you say you say every player on a 32 man team work together... did you call round to their houses and watch them on their PC? Other than that you are just assuming that they worked together because that team happens to have won. Anyway, isn't that my point.. what effect did you have on that game cos surely ye would have won with the other 31 players in any case...

#pointless

Is it better on PC? I dunno, never played it and won't because (a) cheaters, (b) I don't want a hunch in my back from having to play 3 foot from a monitor a third the size of my TV, (c) less people play PC (500,000 versus 1,500,000 on PS3) (d) i don't see the point in 32 v 32.

MajesticDonkey

(a) That's what PunkBuster is for, and from my experience it's been working quite well.
(b) You mean you have a 69" TV?
(c) Generally, in my opinion, people who play on PC are better at playing that people on other consoles - simply because it takes a good amount of money to get a rig capable of playing the game on high/ultra settings (which most PC games want). Therefore I think you generally have less campers on PC.
(d) Then play 16 v 16 or 8 v 8 - there's plenty to go around.

mozattack

Decryptor wrote: »

(a) That's what PunkBuster is for, and from my experience it's been working quite well.
(b) You mean you have a 69" TV?
(c) Generally, in my opinion, people who play on PC are better at playing that people on other consoles - simply because it takes a good amount of money to get a rig capable of playing the game on high/ultra settings (which most PC games want). Therefore I think you generally have less campers on PC.
(d) Then play 16 v 16 or 8 v 8 - there's plenty to go around.

(a) so why is there complaints on the topic if it is not an issue

(b) no 51 inch, a tad bigger than the monitor you have which would have been considered small as a TV in 1985!

(c) No comment on such nonsense...well I do actually, (1) more money on a PC does not make you a better player as you could want the PC for other games whereas a PS3 player might only play BF... me (2) unless there is some hybrid mix between PS3 and PC (maybe PC3?) we will never know... can't see how aiming is tougher on PC though when it is just a "point and click".

(d) Fair point, just the defence I was making was in saying that 32 v 32 is pointless only for the novelty.

Genghiz Cohen

mozattack wrote: »

(a) so why is there complaints on the topic if it is not an issue

(b) no 51 inch, a tad bigger than the monitor you have which would have been considered small as a TV in 1985!

(c) No comment on such nonsense...well I do actually, (1) more money on a PC does not make you a better player as you could want the PC for other games whereas a PS3 player might only play BF... me (2) unless there is some hybrid mix between PS3 and PC (maybe PC3?) we will never know... can't see how aiming is tougher on PC though when it is just a "point and click".

(d) Fair point, just the defence I was making was in saying that 32 v 32 is pointless only for the novelty.

copeyhagen

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/xbox-360-windows-live-gaming-voodoopc-rahul-sood,10924.html

Microsoft controls what goes on its Xbox 360 platform, so through its Games for Windows initiative, one would assume that Microsoft at one point must have contemplated getting its console gamers online with PC gamers. According to VoodooPC founder and HP CTO Rahul Sood, Microsoft tested it and then canned it.

Why? Because console gamers were no match for PC gamers.

"There was a project that got killed at Microsoft. This project was designed to allow console gamers and PC gamers to interact and battle over a connected environment," Sood wrote on his personal blog. "I've heard from reliable sources that during the development they brought together the best console gamers to play mediocre PC gamers at the same game... and guess what happened? They pitted console gamers with their 'console' controller, against PC gamers with their keyboard and mouse."

The results shouldn't be too surprising.

"The console players got destroyed every time," Sood added. "So much so that it would be embarrassing to the XBOX team in general had Microsoft launched this initiative

i havent seen a single person cheating either.