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"NUIG Gentleman Soc"?

  • 28-10-2011 5:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭


    Saw this poster in the IT Building...

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    Can't tell if fake... anyone know anything? :/


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭NuckyT


    Sounds good, although the picture in the poster gives the impression that it's a subgroup of GiGSoc.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    It sounds stupid.

    Mr. Frog, could you PM me the number of the "Matt" in question? I think I may have an inkling as to who it is.

    edit: Also - rather direct contravention of the alcohol policy, surely...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭Croppy Bhoy


    Looks more like Bugchaser's Soc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Phenex


    Wouldnt mind having a word with whoever did this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭TheCosmicFrog


    Phenex wrote: »
    Wouldnt mind having a word with whoever did this

    ...oh?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Phenex


    Its definitely fake but I'd love to know who's advertising a fake society, specially one that was discussed as a joke for a while lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    I approve of the idea of this society, as an opposite to Feminist Soc.

    I would also like a pro-choice soc and a straight-soc. The university shouldn't only fund one half of anything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭bildo


    I approve of the idea of this society, as an opposite to Feminist Soc.

    Not opposite, complimentary. Big difference.
    And feminism is just as about men as it is women anyway, it's about equality overall and that goes both ways.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    I approve of the idea of this society, as an opposite to Feminist Soc.

    I would also like a pro-choice soc and a straight-soc. The university shouldn't only fund one half of anything.

    Just because there's one bull**** society doesn't mean we should encourage another bull**** society which is the "opposite" thereof.
    We've all heard the joke about "setting up a "Man's Society" as an opposite to the Feminist society", but I hope to Christ the USCG will have a bit more cop than to approve it if someone is so gormless as to put the application for such a society forward. I'm assuming this is a joke, but I would have thought you'd have more wit, Squee, than to be endorsing it.

    And bildo - feminism is not as much about men as it is about women. That's just daft.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Ficheall wrote: »
    And bildo - feminism is not as much about men as it is about women. That's just daft.

    Have you studied feminism? Because there is a good argument there. How men perceive, conceptualise, value and treat women is a very significant part of it. Feminism can be described as a study of equality, it just so happens that women need special attention in this regard as they're are not treated equally in a number of ways.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Fair enough - poorly phrased on my part. I was not referring to the study of men as some sort of "oppressor" or referential yardstick, rather how it is not about achieving equal rights for men (again, other than equality in terms of some supposed level which it is felt they need to raise females up to).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    I'll accept women's equality when they stop expecting me to buy them drinks in exchange for a conversation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭PomBear


    I approve of the idea of this society, as an opposite to Feminist Soc.

    I would also like a pro-choice soc and a straight-soc. The university shouldn't only fund one half of anything.

    For Sinn Féin soc, there must be a DUP soc
    For Veg soc, there must be a carnivores soc
    For organic gardening, there must be a industrial production soc
    For socialist workers soc, there must a capitalist bosses soc :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭Croppy Bhoy


    baha there's a feminist soc? :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Red_Wake wrote: »
    I'll accept women's equality when they stop expecting me to buy them drinks in exchange for a conversation.

    That's all women, is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 436 ✭✭Croppy Bhoy


    Zillah wrote: »
    That's all women, is it?
    Lots of them. Most women are more than happy to accept the numerous cases of special treatment they get due to being ladies even if it means putting up with the massive amount of discrimination they have to suffer in 2011...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Well those women are reinforcing negative attitudes towards women and would be criticised by a feminist for it.

    Red_Wake should be complaining about hypocrites, not women in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    PomBear wrote: »
    For socialist workers soc, there must a capitalist bosses soc :pac:

    yes

    If only to annoy the socialists on campus. I suppose it does exist already though, as A&F or Business soc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭PomBear


    yes

    If only to annoy the socialists on campus. I suppose it does exist already though, as A&F or Business soc.

    If A&F or Bizsoc did anything remotely capitalist orientated apart from bringing people to CPs


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    PomBear wrote: »
    If A&F or Bizsoc did anything remotely capitalist orientated apart from bringing people to CPs

    The SEEN €10 challenge and all the other events they held last year? The BizSoc Apprentice? As well as the first ever Students Business Conference that's in the pipeline for the coming year? The guest speakers BizSoc brought in last year, Bobby Kerr, Padraig O'Faoloin etc, speakers from Apple planned this year too. Don't know about A&F.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Reillyman wrote: »
    The SEEN €10 challenge and all the other events they held last year?...

    SEEN wasn't BizSoc, was it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    No but it involved a few past BizSoc members.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭Fooker


    Reillyman wrote: »
    The SEEN €10 challenge and all the other events they held last year? The BizSoc Apprentice? As well as the first ever Students Business Conference that's in the pipeline for the coming year? The guest speakers BizSoc brought in last year, Bobby Kerr, Padraig O'Faoloin etc, speakers from Apple planned this year too. Don't know about A&F.

    They did scam people by getting them to pay to get discounts they already are entitled to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Reillyman wrote: »
    No but it involved a few past BizSoc members.

    ...so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,380 ✭✭✭TheCosmicFrog


    Reillyman wrote: »
    No but it involved a few past BizSoc members.

    Just because Paddy and co. were involved in setting up SEEN doesn't mean it was a BizSoc thing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    Fooker wrote: »
    They did scam people by getting them to pay to get discounts they already are entitled to...

    It's not just a discount card, it's needed to get into BizSoc events or buy tickets for the commerce ball etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    so your charging people to go to the commerce ball as well as charging them for the ticket. kind of sounds like your a bunch of thieving future politicians


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    It's one of a few measures to stop non-students from coming to the ball.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 Phenex


    Societies are allowed to charge a membership fee technically if they so choose to, not many know of this however its completely legit. The 2 euro charge thing is being construed as a member charge therefore allowing them to go to events and **** and stopping others.

    I dont like it myself but its in the rulebook, and they merely had the stones to act on it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,570 ✭✭✭Squeeonline


    Reillyman wrote: »
    It's one of a few measures to stop non-students from coming to the ball.

    What looking for, I dunno, a valid student card?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭Fooker


    Reillyman wrote: »
    It's one of a few measures to stop non-students from coming to the ball.

    So do you have to use the student card to buy the card to buy the ticket?

    I hope you're right and everyone stops going to the commerce ball, though I have to admit A&F grate with me more than BizSoc...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    Phenex wrote: »
    Societies are allowed to charge a membership fee technically if they so choose to, not many know of this however its completely legit. The 2 euro charge thing is being construed as a member charge therefore allowing them to go to events and **** and stopping others.

    I dont like it myself but its in the rulebook, and they merely had the stones to act on it.

    Yep your right. I should have said it's a measure to stop non BizSoc students from getting Comm Ball tickets.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭hokeypokey


    Reillyman wrote: »
    Yep your right. I should have said it's a measure to stop non BizSoc students from getting Comm Ball tickets.

    You can do this by checking student IDs when they are buying them. It's a bit of a scam, whereas A&F is a SCAM.

    I would think this might annoy people and the Commerce Ball probably won't sell out like they did last year...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    commerce ball was ridiculous last year, place was beyond capacity, people were disgracefully drunk, and left one hell of a mess on the street afterwards. Biz soc should focus less on profit and more on the standard of the event.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    empacher wrote: »
    commerce ball was ridiculous last year, place was beyond capacity, people were disgracefully drunk, and left one hell of a mess on the street afterwards. Biz soc should focus less on profit and more on the standard of the event.

    Your right, all of which will be improved upon this year.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭cealabeala


    Many women (including me) do not accept drinks from men they are not interested in.
    And that's a fairly petty reason anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 292 ✭✭Fooker


    Reillyman wrote: »
    Your right, all of which will be improved upon this year.

    How?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    Fooker wrote: »
    How?

    It's a work in progress. The ball isn't until early next year, don't worry we know the problems that existed last year and are trying our best to eradicate as much problems as we can.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭empacher


    Reillyman wrote: »
    Your right, all of which will be improved upon this year.

    Being Sincere thanks for the honesty, i think if someone who has something to do with organizing it admitting a problem is already a sign that its going to be better this year!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Reillyman


    empacher wrote: »
    Being Sincere thanks for the honesty, i think if someone who has something to do with organizing it admitting a problem is already a sign that its going to be better this year!

    Absolutely, we have a list far longer than the one in previous posts about the weak points of previous commerce balls and where we need to improve, and even though I won't promise this year will be 100% perfect we are trying our best to solve as many problems as possible.

    One of the most important things you can do when organising an event is being able to sit down afterwards and be honest about the bad-points and learn from them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 JohnnyHubcaps


    I don't understand the appeal of Balls (heh). It's all the same craic you would have in a nightclub or pub, except you have to buy a ticket for 20+ euro. What is the point of that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭apoch632


    I don't understand the appeal of Balls (heh). It's all the same craic you would have in a nightclub or pub, except you have to buy a ticket for 20+ euro. What is the point of that?

    Everyone gets dressed up and has a night out with their friends. I don't see the appeal personally but understand how others would


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 JohnnyHubcaps


    apoch632 wrote: »
    Everyone gets dressed up and has a night out with their friends. I don't see the appeal personally but understand how others would
    But if I go out any night of the week I see people dressed up on a night out with their friends. Why would you pay an extra 20-30 euro on top of the usual drinks/smokes/whatever else you're into for the exact same thing?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭apoch632


    But if I go out any night of the week I see people dressed up on a night out with their friends. Why would you pay an extra 20-30 euro on top of the usual drinks/smokes/whatever else you're into for the exact same thing?

    Usually they have bands and/or a dinner type thing. Some people like a fancy night out with their friends and classmates.

    People don't really get dressed up in suits and long dresses for a night out. A nice shirt yes


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6 JohnnyHubcaps


    apoch632 wrote: »
    Usually they have bands and/or a dinner type thing. Some people like a fancy night out with their friends and classmates.

    People don't really get dressed up in suits and long dresses for a night out. A nice shirt yes
    The bands are always gash though. The dinner I can understand if you find that sort of thing good craic, but I don't know many people who bother buying the 'full' tickets anyway.

    I suppose if people get a buzz from wearing formal attire that's cool too. Personally I'd rather spend the €30 on an extra night out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 357 ✭✭apoch632


    The bands are always gash though. The dinner I can understand if you find that sort of thing good craic, but I don't know many people who bother buying the 'full' tickets anyway.

    I suppose if people get a buzz from wearing formal attire that's cool too. Personally I'd rather spend the €30 on an extra night out.

    Sure go do that

    No ones forcing you to :D:p


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