Attention all panel beaters!

unkel

Nearly 11 year old Rover 75 1.8 petrol. Worth very little and now worth even less:





Someone in the know told me that a panel beater would do a fairly good job on that as a nixer for €500, but I'm not gonna spend anywhere near that kinda money. Thinking of just trading the car in early in the new year, but that would be a bit silly as it is a very well sorted low mileage car with NCT till 2013 and new front tyres. Hasn't let us down in over 5 years of owning it!

What would you be able to do for me for what kinda money that would make the car a little bit more presentable?

mickdw

Get 2 doors in the right colour and a repair to the wheelarch should be reasonable

Gary ITR

If your driving is that bad I'd just leave it because you're just going to wreck it again :pac:


How did you do that ya plonker? I think 'I was VB' know a guy

Gumbo

€500 seem optimistic imo, sure paint prices have shot up in recent years due to new laws etc etc and the time and parts needed.

Mr Benevolent

How'd that happen? Nearly tempted to buy it off you for €500.

Nearly.

alias no.9

pm sent recommending some guys close to you

unkel

unkel wrote: »

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Someone in the know told me that a panel beater would do a fairly good job on that as a nixer for €500...................What would you be able to do for me for what kinda money that would make the car a little bit more presentable?[/I][/B]

€500 wouldn't go very far really.
As said, two doors in the right colour is the best way to sort it if you get them cheap.

sdanseo

I had similar damage fixed for €400 back in July, cash job. Can pm details if you like. Didn't have any damage to the wheel arch though so €500 sounds about right at least - and I got 4 quotes at the time.

mickdw

Would you sell it as is?

unkel

Thanks all!

@Gary - let's not mention the war, but you probably would have guessed it wasn't me who did the damage

@alias no.9 - thanks, I'll pay them a visit

mickdw wrote: »

Would you sell it as is?

Well that was the plan. The car has served us well and I'd like to get something else and spending €500 fixing just some visual damage on a car of this value seems nonsense to me. But it would be more prudent to have a cheap fix and keep it for another year or so...

barura

Give it a try yourself? If it doesn't work, get the doors from a breakers... If you straighten it enough to keep using it, then you got it for free.

Free is cheaper than 500euro.

L-M

I wouldn't bother doing anything to it! I couldn't even get 900 euro for my one, let alone spending 500 on it!

Looks like that quarter isn't a stranger to some fillers either!

VolvoMan

Limerick man wrote: »

I couldn't even get 900 euro for my one, let alone spending 500 on it!

That was a KV6 though. Apart from being heavy on fuel during these times, the cam belt is a bastard to do.

I'd go with the suggestion of sourcing two doors in the same colour from a scrapyard. People generally don't check things like coolant in Ireland, so there will be a lot of 75's in there already.;)

mickdw

any tax on the car?

unkel

VolvoMan wrote: »

I'd go with the suggestion of sourcing two doors in the same colour from a scrapyard.

Sourcing two doors in the same colour will fix well less than half of the problem. Maybe I didn't make my case clear. I want a €100 tops rough solution that will make the car look a lot less bad

If I can not find a €100 solution, I will sell the car (as is) and buy another car

unkel

mickdw wrote: »

any tax on the car?

Car is taxed until the start of the year 2012

NCT until Feb 2013...

_Conrad_

unkel wrote: »

I want a €100 tops rough solution that will make the car look a lot less bad

That's nuts! Any solution for less than 100 unless someone is being incredibly generous with time, equipment and skills is going to do feck all and the car will still look wrecked, or else you'll have just slapped a huge amount of filler over it or bodged it in an impossibly over optimistic way

mickdw

Even at €100, 2 doors are probably the best option if you can build them up/fit them yourself and just leave the wheel arch.

VolvoMan

unkel wrote: »

If I can not find a €100 solution, I will sell the car (as is) and buy another car

Send 'I Was VB' a PM. He seems to do some panel beating work in his spare time.

weeder

for a ton buy some rattlecans and have a look at this http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=70400901, you should be able to at least make it acceptable even if it is a bit rough, halfrauds probabaly have matching paint on the shelf and if not they will mix up an aerosol but its fairly pricy. if they have it on the shelf it will cost probabaly 50/60 euro depending, or go to an indy motorfactors and the paint is cheaper but the range is smaller, it wont be overly hard as long as you take your time at it.

knifey_spoonie

unkel wrote: »

I want a €100 tops rough solution that will make the car look a lot less bad

For a 100 quid i suggest filling the tank with petrol, using your newly acquired petrol to recreate the accident but on the other side of the car. Then stick it on donedeal as a rat look 75 and see how you go.:D

Honestly 100 quid wouldnt even buy all the materials needed to fix that kind of damage.

Bumpstop

I've worked a few miracles over the years, no way a hundred quid will fix that in any way, unless you used it to get a potential buyer drunk.
Just to bodge that would need fibre glass sheets, resin, filler, sand paper, sanding discs, primer, paint, clear coat.

unkel

unkel wrote: »

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unkel wrote: »

Sourcing two doors in the same colour will fix well less than half of the problem. Maybe I didn't make my case clear. I want a €100 tops rough solution that will make the car look a lot less bad

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Two doors would have that looking 70% better without touching the rear quarter panel I honestly think, two doors would be €100+ though.

I wouldn't like to see it after a €100 rough repair.

TomMc

I suppose two doors from the same vehicle mightn't look as bad. Will not match wings but better than present situation. Unfortunately W123 style chrome wheel arch covers will look crap.

A buyer would probably be willing to sort out the rear wing if you sorted out the doors first.

L-M

VolvoMan wrote: »

That was a KV6 though. Apart from being heavy on fuel during these times, the cam belt is a bastard to do.

The cambelt was done on mine, and the 1.8 K series probably has the worst name an engine has on this side of the water, so the above argument is null and void.

no1beemerfan

Ouch! Nasty one Unkle. TBH the only way you'll get anything done for no more than €100 is of you get aersol cans and just spray the damage as is. I'd say two doors off a breakers would be around €100 so if it was me I'd get two doors and fix the wheel arch myself. Cheapest way I can think of.

SEPT 23 1989

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IL22sLF25s

Limerick man

Limerick man wrote: »

The cambelt was done on mine.............

There's three on the KV6

mickdw

Given the tax thats on it, Id drive it til its out then sell it for tiny money.

Whats it worth without tax I wonder?

I Was VB

There would be a way to get the bad look off it for 100, grab a can of spray paint the same colour as the car, take off the two door cards and try and beat out the damage as best ya can with your foot/hand/anything that will do the job, and then spray over the damage. Yep it will take the bad look off it but it will still be in ****e.

L-M

RoverJames wrote: »

There's three on the KV6

Yes, and said three were done

unkel

I Was VB wrote: »

There would be a way to get the bad look off it for 100, grab a can of spray paint the same colour as the car, take off the two door cards and try and beat out the damage as best ya can with your foot/hand/anything that will do the job, and then spray over the damage. Yep it will take the bad look off it but it will still be in ****e.

All I care is that it takes the bad look off it

I've sourced a can of Rover spray paint in the original colour (€18 shipped, not bad!) so will probably get it in the next week or two

Thanks all!

johnos1984

Pity it got damaged.

I was thinking of it today while awaiting news of my self destructing Passat.

No news yet of that but I'll bear the 75 in mind if the **** hits the fan

L-M

unkel wrote: »

All I care is that it takes the bad look off it

I've sourced a can of Rover spray paint in the original colour (€18 shipped, not bad!) so will probably get it in the next week or two

Thanks all!

It's €20 in Halfords for the same, or €9 ish if they have it in the pre made ones which I'm fairly sure they have most Rover colours.

unkel

Limerick man wrote: »

It's €20 in Halfords for the same, or €9 ish if they have it in the pre made ones which I'm fairly sure they have most Rover colours.

I had a look on their website earlier, all the cans are €8.99, but it is Halfords own make and they do not have copperleaf red

And I'd trust the original Rover paint a little bit more than Halfords mixing the paint for me. I've heard bad stories about that!

Owen

It could just be a rumour - but allegedly Halfords have lost their paint mixing license? Either way, I'd be more inclined to trust an aerosol from an independent Motor Factors than Halfords, the few times I've bought colours they've clearly been mixed incorrectly.

Owen

I Was VB wrote: »

There would be a way to get the bad look off it for 100, grab a can of spray paint the same colour as the car, take off the two door cards and try and beat out the damage as best ya can with your foot/hand/anything that will do the job, and then spray over the damage. Yep it will take the bad look off it but it will still be in ****e.

I know advice like this is well intentioned, but remember the episode of Wheeler Dealers where Ed sprayed the Capri using aerosols? He'd plenty of experience, and experience with shaping panels, and it still looked like a turd when he was finished.

I think cheapest option here is going to be to source 2 doors from a breakers yard in the same colour if possible, and get a repair done on the quarter.

mickdw

I dont know what a tin of spray paint is going to do for you. If you try to just spray over the damage, you will make it worse.

If I had that car, Id drive it in the damaged condition no problem but if it had some dodgy painting done, I wouldnt drive it 5 yards.

2 stroke

unkel wrote: »

If I can not find a €100 solution, I will sell the car (as is) and buy another car

€100 wouldn't dig a hole for it.

I Was VB

Owen wrote: »

I know advice like this is well intentioned, but remember the episode of Wheeler Dealers where Ed sprayed the Capri using aerosols? He'd plenty of experience, and experience with shaping panels, and it still looked like a turd when he was finished.

I think cheapest option here is going to be to source 2 doors from a breakers yard in the same colour if possible, and get a repair done on the quarter.

The man wants to take the bad look off it with out wanting to spend upwards of €100, this is the best solution for under a ton.

Of course the right thing to do is repair it properly, but is it worth spending money on a car like this, when striaght ones arent even making a thousand? Take the bad look off it and try and flog it on.

Owen

At the moment the car looks honest. Go at it with a rattlecan attempting to camouflage damage and people will not only walk away because it looks cack, they'll walk away because they think the seller is the type of person who hides things. It'll make them question the service history, other potential accident damage. It's really bad advice IMHO. We know the OP a long time and trust him, but if the car was in the bangernomics thread with a half assed repair you could spot a mile away, we'd all be saying to walk away, don't touch it - for the reasons above.

I Was VB

I Was VB wrote: »

The man wants to take the bad look off it with out wanting to spend upwards of €100, this is the best solution for under a ton...................

A rattle can repair after 30 mins with a brush handle won't take the rough look off it though.