Red C Poll for SBP

The Volt · 22-10-2011 4:17pm #1

Gal 40 +1, Michael D Higgins 26 -1, mcg 13, dn 10 +3, gm 6 -2, drs 3 +1, md 2 -1.

Gallagher looks to be maintaining his momentum despite his Fianna Fail background now being public knowledge.

bleg · 22-10-2011 4:18pm

****

Colmo52 · 22-10-2011 4:22pm

The big news in this poll is dana overtaking mary!

GSF · 22-10-2011 4:29pm

time to emigrate i think

Pride Fighter · 22-10-2011 4:31pm

Game over. Fianna Fail have won an election and will bounce back. Think I might leave.

bijapos · 22-10-2011 4:33pm

Surprised Galagher is still doing so well, wonder how transfers are showing up.

I'd can't wait to see Mitchells response to this poll, its a disaster for FG if it turns out like this.

I'd say there will be a fair bit of moving in the last week, a lot of friends are undecided between Higgins and Gallagher but I suspect there is still some major piece of dirt on him that will be wheeled out in time.

Brendan1704 · 22-10-2011 4:36pm

SWEEEEEEET!!!!

€24.40 at 40/1 on paddy power just after the late late show 3 weeks ago!!!! its looking gud for that €1,000 now :-D

Teclo · 22-10-2011 4:42pm

from that Power fella

Sean Gallagher
1/5

Michael D.Higgins
7/2

The Volt · 22-10-2011 4:50pm

The notion of a de-facto Fianna Failer being rewarded with the presidency by this electorate is turning my stomach. Do people remember Fianna Fail and what they did to this country?

Gallagher is intrinsically linked to a party that ****ed us all royally, forced our friends and family out of work and out of this country. How can people be happy with one of them representing us internationally?

bleg · 22-10-2011 4:55pm

How many undecided?

Is there an Irish Times poll released on Monday?

bleg · 22-10-2011 4:57pm

GSF wrote: »

time to emigrate i think

Ah don't be too hasty. Gallagher is an awful candidate but it's not as if he will have any real power. He might try to muscle in on Richard Bruton's job but he will be soon put back in his box and would end up just being a disastrous president but at least he will have no real power.

IngazZagni · 22-10-2011 5:01pm

Hve to say I'm quite surprised at this. I was sure the gap would close between Higgins and Gallagher, not get bigger. I still think Higgins has a chance on transfers. Only time will tell though.

Voltwad wrote: »

The notion of a de-facto Fianna Failer being rewarded with the presidency by this electorate is turning my stomach. Do people remember Fianna Fail and what they did to this country?

Gallagher is intrinsically linked to a party that ****ed us all royally, forced our friends and family out of work and out of this country. How can people be happy with one of them representing us internationally?

What gives you the right to feel your opinion and vote is so much more superior than others? People have the facts laid out in front of them and are choosing for themselves who they want to be the next President. Of course the only poll that counts is on October 27th so we will see then.

ildaite · 22-10-2011 5:01pm

Please, no- not Seán Gallagher

Where'd this information come from if the poll hasn't been published yet?

The Volt · 22-10-2011 5:02pm

IngazZagni wrote: »

Hve to say I'm quite surprised at this. I was sure the gap would close between Higgins and Gallagher, not get bigger. I still think Higgins has a chance on transfers. Only time will tell though.

What gives you the right to feel your opinion and vote is so much more superior than others? People have the facts laid out in front of them and are choosing for themselves who they want to be the next President. Of course the only poll that counts is on October 27th so we will see then.

I didn't put my opinion on top of anyone elses. I gave mine and then asked a question, which I'm more than entitled to do. Get off your high horse.

puffdragon · 22-10-2011 5:04pm

Its a good job the "red sea fool" means nothing otherwise we would be voting accordingly, my suggestion to any sane people on boards is to mind the history of all the candidates and remember that the eventual winner, whoever that is ,will be gone from the media and headlines for at least seven years, unless we elect Mc Guinness which I'm sure will bring almost weekly headlines considering his flowery past , the rest im sorry to say will slip off into history , maybe Higgins would be a safe bet as he would effectively turn the ARAS into a nursing home but maybe sense will prevail and some foresight may be used in your decision, remember we are in a crisis and we need all the fire power we can get to help us through a difficult time , a sharp committed President wouldn't do us any harm!!

RonMexico · 22-10-2011 5:15pm

A nation of servile idiots.

GSF · 22-10-2011 5:17pm

bleg wrote: »

Ah don't be too hasty. Gallagher is an awful candidate but it's not as if he will have any real power. He might try to muscle in on Richard Bruton's job but he will be soon put back in his box and would end up just being a disastrous president but at least he will have no real power.

It would be a sign that we've learned nothing.

Crony capitalism, vacuous positivity ala Berties dont talk down da economy and sure lets look the other way at the stuff that we dont like are going to lead us back to another meltdown. It might take 20 years but the course is set.

charlemont · 22-10-2011 5:21pm

RonMexico wrote: »

A nation of servile idiots.

Yes indeed Donkeys can't be thought, Simply because they don't want to learn.

My name is URL · 22-10-2011 5:24pm

I find the poll regarding the referendums to be far more troubling!

http://www.thejournal.ie/gallagher-extends-lead-in-latest-presidential-opinion-polls-260880-Oct2011/

The Sunday Times’ poll also asks voters for their intentions on this week’s referenda – showing 87 per cent of voters in support of the referendum on judicial pay, compared to 8 per cent against and 5 per cent undecided.

76 per cent of voters in favour of the referendum on Oireachtas enquiries, while 18 per cent are opposed to it and 6 per cent undecided.

IngazZagni · 22-10-2011 5:28pm

Voltwad wrote: »

I didn't put my opinion on top of anyone elses. I gave mine and then asked a question, which I'm more than entitled to do. Get off your high horse.

My comment is really directed at a group of people, not just you but I can't quote everyone!

RonMexico wrote: »

A nation of servile idiots.

Comments like these is what I'm talking about

My name is URL wrote: »

I find the poll regarding the referendums to be far more troubling!

http://www.thejournal.ie/gallagher-extends-lead-in-latest-presidential-opinion-polls-260880-Oct2011/

I suppose you're a judge then.

oppenheimer1 · 22-10-2011 5:29pm

My name is URL wrote: »

I find the poll regarding the referendums to be far more troubling!

http://www.thejournal.ie/gallagher-extends-lead-in-latest-presidential-opinion-polls-260880-Oct2011/

I agree. The presidential election is a distraction from the far far more important referendums. A power grab dressed up in populist nonsense, and the electorate are buying it wholesale.

Dr Galen · 22-10-2011 5:29pm

Polls are all well and good, for both the election and the referenda, but how many of the people polled will actually turn out to vote on the day?

Whileany people I know have an opinion one way or another, the majority won't bother going out next week. Results could be very different come counting time because of this.

Happyman42 · 22-10-2011 5:33pm

Dr Galen wrote: »

Polls are all well and good, for both the election and the referenda, but how many of the people polled will actually turn out to vote on the day?

Whileany people I know have an opinion one way or another, the majority won't bother going out next week. Results could be very different come counting time because of this.

Very true. If you get a day like here today, steady unrelenting rain, the turnout could be very low, especially if one candidate looks to have it sewn up.

Sierra Oscar · 22-10-2011 5:34pm

Dr Galen wrote: »

Polls are all well and good, for both the election and the referenda, but how many of the people polled will actually turn out to vote on the day?

To be fair - the polls were pretty much spot on with the GE. There is detailed methodology to account for things such as turnout and the like.

GSF · 22-10-2011 5:37pm

Hopefully the first Dail inquiry under their new powers will be into the affairs of Sean Gallagher

Ald · 22-10-2011 5:43pm

I don't believe in God but I have to say it 'cause it's the only apt thing to say: May God help us!

If we elect a sponger I will have lost faith in this country. It's the only word that comes to mind when I see his face. He's worse than any dole queue cheat.

He's clearly been reading up on the coaching sh*te for positivity.... F*UK off Gallagher!

puffdragon · 22-10-2011 5:50pm

A thing to be noted , yes VACUOUS POSITIVETY!! a theme many of the candidates seem to have. well spotted there GFS , there is also of course blatant lies , so where do you go! Lets think of it like this: I'ts a new start, a new beginning, a chance for us to come together as a nation for once and elect a President for the "THE FUTURE" not the past. some morning I'll get up and instead of reading of how much we have given away , instead I'll read of how much we have gained. As much as it sickens me to see Adams and Bertie on the same side wrestling with ETA http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1017/basque.html
at the same time I have to admire the togetherness of the Irish who although seemingly so divided at home seem to be so united in peaceful purposes abroad.

Happyman42 · 22-10-2011 5:53pm

Ald wrote: »

He's clearly been reading up on the coaching sh*te for positivity.... F*UK off Gallagher!

Another 7 years of platitudes and peace and reconciliation guff! :rolleyes:

Baralis1 · 22-10-2011 5:59pm

Gallagher is an excellent candidate and will be a very positive, forward thinking president. As an already proven entrepreneur I think he can bring a lot of jobs to the the country by leading trade missions around the world.
The media are really grasping at straws trying to find some dirt on him but they have to scrape the barrel because he appears to always have conduced his affairs with honesty and has been completely open about his past membership of Fianna Fail.
I'm tired of people just reading headlines and then connecting him with the usual populist negative nonsense that is surrounding FF at the moment.

mjp · 22-10-2011 5:59pm

Imagine how leon Blanche and Boylesports feel after paying out on Michael D Higgins as winner last thursday, Serious case of Egg on their face if Gallagher goes on to win it. Say their Political analyst will be getting his P45 after next friday if election goes the way polls expect it.

Michael D has to be bit of value @ 7/2 as week is a long time in politics and big debate to come on frontline monday night.

Had 50 on him just there to cover my bet of €20 on gallagher @ 20/1 since last may when he confirmed his intention to run on the late late show

Baralis1 · 22-10-2011 6:02pm

Happyman42 wrote: »

Another 7 years of platitudes and peace and reconciliation guff! :rolleyes:

You are correct about the last seven years but I really believe that Sean Gallagher if he's elected will be much more practical with a lot less flowery speeches about peace and reconciliation that go way over the heads of most people.

Happyman42 · 22-10-2011 6:04pm

Baralis1 wrote: »

You are correct about the last seven years but I really believe that Sean Gallagher if he's elected will be much more practical with a lot less flowery speeches about peace and reconciliation that go way over the heads of most people.

'You are as well raving there as here!' ...as me auld granny used to say.

charlemont · 22-10-2011 6:05pm

Baralis1 wrote: »

Gallagher is an excellent candidate and will be a very positive, forward thinking president. As an already proven entrepreneur I think he can bring a lot of jobs to the the country by leading trade missions around the world.
The media are really grasping at straws trying to find some dirt on him but they have to scrape the barrel because he appears to always have conduced his affairs with honesty and has been completely open about his past membership of Fianna Fail.
I'm tired of people just reading headlines and then connecting him with the usual populist negative nonsense that is surrounding FF at the moment.

Michael O Leary is an entrepreneur, Gallagher is a leech..:P

trishasaffron · 22-10-2011 6:06pm

Another one here who will leave the country if a cute whore like SG is elected president.

What's really galling is that many of the people who support him are good kids who think they are voting for "a change". What a laugh - he's the greatest example of traditional thinking of all 7 candidates.

Baralis1 · 22-10-2011 6:07pm

charlemont wrote: »

Michael O Leary is an entrepreneur, Gallagher is a leech..:P

How exactly is he a leech? I assume you mean money wise? How has he leeched money from us?

nesf · 22-10-2011 6:09pm

charlemont wrote: »

Michael O Leary is an entrepreneur, Gallagher is a leech..:P

No, the issue is people have this romantic image of the "entrepreneur" in their head when in reality it's just anyone who spots a gap in the market and forces themselves into it. Nothing says they have to be nice or likeable people.

Mr.Micro · 22-10-2011 6:12pm

nesf wrote: »

No, the issue is people have this romantic image of the "entrepreneur" in their head when in reality it's just anyone who spots a gap in the market and forces themselves into it. Nothing says they have to be nice or likeable people.

He has done that alright. I think that perhaps many voters may be buying the Dragon image more than the real image, which is what exactly, a bit of everything but nothing.

nesf · 22-10-2011 6:15pm

Honestly I think it's a problem of who do you vote for if you're leaning towards the political right. You've three choices, Gallagher, Mitchell and Dana. Really, the latter two turn off a lot of people both being conservatives, leaving a lot of FF/FG voters with one candidate who is the least worst (assuming you're not on the conservative right).

I still think Higgins will really push him on transfers though. I have a lot of trouble seeing Gallagher picking up transfers from Norris, McG and the like.

puffdragon · 22-10-2011 6:16pm

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

I agree. The presidential election is a distraction from the far far more important referendums. A power grab dressed up in populist nonsense, and the electorate are buying it wholesale.

This is also true.although we seem to be a generally enlightened bunch here on boards ,I do sense a a couple of sheep here who will follow which ever poster can write the best nonsense, "A political career" is just that "a political career" but sometimes politics can make a difference, if for instance your political standing can save lives then that political standing is worth something, on the other hand if your political standing endangers lives then that standing is negative and unworthy.Politics,to a larger degree will distract us from reality, RTE, Vincent Browne, to name but a few will to a great extent "Distract" us from reality because to really survive and to really regenerate we need to stop staring at our shoes and just get on with things !

nesf · 22-10-2011 6:17pm

Mr.Micro wrote: »

He has done that alright. I think that perhaps many voters may be buying the Dragon image more than the real image, which is what exactly, a bit of everything but nothing.

Yeah, or they're buying into his pro-small business centre right position. Higgins and Norris have hoovered up everything on the left except for the hardest of the hard lefters.

Seriously, if you're on the right and not a conservative who do you vote for? I'm stuck in this position but thankfully won't have to worry about this as I'll be stuck in hospital in Dublin on Thursday.

Mr.Micro · 22-10-2011 6:20pm

nesf wrote: »

Yeah, or they're buying into his pro-small business centre right position. Higgins and Norris have hoovered up everything on the left except for the hardest of the hard lefters.

Seriously, if you're on the right and not a conservative who do you vote for?

I agree of the 3 on the right, 2 are just not voteable, no matter what they say, just don't have it at all...then as you say one is left with SG, not ideal either but?

Monty Burnz · 22-10-2011 6:21pm

The only good thing about this - with all due warnings about the electorate's goldfish memory for Fianna Failure's cock-ups - is that when Gallagher's promises of creating employment are shown to be cynical empty rhetoric, it might just be counted as yet another FFailure betrayal/failure and damage the 'brand' even more.

charlemont · 22-10-2011 6:21pm

nesf wrote: »

No, the issue is people have this romantic image of the "entrepreneur" in their head when in reality it's just anyone who spots a gap in the market and forces themselves into it. Nothing says they have to be nice or likeable people.

Its him that is spreading this message about being a successful business man/entrepreneur when in fact he is more of a jack of all trades and a fairly cr*p one at that.

Monty Burnz · 22-10-2011 6:24pm

Baralis1 wrote: »

How exactly is he a leech? I assume you mean money wise? How has he leeched money from us?

Look into where the money for his 'Smarthomes' company came from.

http://thepost.ie/news/ireland/gallaghers-cabling-company-got-700000-in-state-supports-59166.html

charlemont · 22-10-2011 6:25pm

nesf wrote: »

Yeah, or they're buying into his pro-small business centre right position. Higgins and Norris have hoovered up everything on the left except for the hardest of the hard lefters.

Seriously, if you're on the right and not a conservative who do you vote for? I'm stuck in this position but thankfully won't have to worry about this as I'll be stuck in hospital in Dublin on Thursday.

Can you not get a postal vote or something ? Is there any facility available for patients to vote ?

puffdragon · 22-10-2011 6:29pm

If I was being honest then Gallagher is a "ROBOT" he looks like something someone made!! whats that film i'm thinking off ? you know the robot thing that has a brain? No sadly I wont be investing this time ,sorry i'm out!!

BQQ · 22-10-2011 6:32pm

Baralis1 wrote: »

How exactly is he a leech? I assume you mean money wise? How has he leeched money from us?

By using his position on Louth Enterprise board and Intertrade Ireland to award his own company grants.

galway2007 · 22-10-2011 6:44pm

I think the Irish people are sick of FG saying " it was FF that done this so blame them when they have to make a hard decision"
The Irish people have wiped out FF and they are dealt with
FG made false promises and this election will be a warning to them that the Irish people will do the same to them if they don’t get off their ass and delivery on their promises
I hope Gallagher get elected just to show the like of the Irish independent that they don’t dictated to the Irish people

puffdragon · 22-10-2011 6:45pm

Baralis1 wrote: »

How exactly is he a leech? I assume you mean money wise? How has he leeched money from us?

The answer to your question from me personally is" I dont know". Who knows? its a mystery where the money flows through the system , grants , loans, investors, board members, No doubt there's someone on boards who will point a crooked finger at something that he's done for political reasons im sure but anyone who gets out of his bed in the morning and intends to do a days work will get my vote any day, as would Martin Mc Gunisess who also seems to be a working mans favourite.

nesf · 22-10-2011 6:46pm

charlemont wrote: »

Can you not get a postal vote or something ? Is there any facility available for patients to vote ?

Postal vote, no, since at the deadline for postal voting I didn't think I'd be in hospital. There's no facility to help patients vote as far as I'm aware.

NewHillel · 22-10-2011 7:04pm

Voltwad wrote: »

The notion of a de-facto Fianna Failer being rewarded with the presidency by this electorate is turning my stomach. Do people remember Fianna Fail and what they did to this country?

Gallagher is intrinsically linked to a party that ****ed us all royally, forced our friends and family out of work and out of this country. How can people be happy with one of them representing us internationally?

I couldn't agree more! He is FF to the core, including having his nose in the trough and telling lies about his background when it suits his purpose. Just shows, people have invested too much in FF to give up on them!