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Poll on Dail Inquiries Powers Referendum

  • 18-10-2011 7:32pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,644 ✭✭✭✭


    Vote away.

    How will you vote on giving extra powers to Dáil Inquiries 71 votes

    YES
    0% 0 votes
    NO
    15% 11 votes
    I won't vote.
    84% 60 votes


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Will it mean no more costly tribunals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    I don't see how anyone could vote yes. Politicians are generally incapable of doing their job as it is, the last thing we need to do is give them more power to make a balls of things, such as an inquiry.

    Leave the inquiries and their according powers to those trained to perform them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,745 ✭✭✭Eliot Rosewater


    "It shall be for the House or Houses concerned to determine [...] the appropriate balance between the rights of persons and the public interest" should send shivers down the spine of anyone who believes in proper, fair and considered justice and government. It will then, naturally, be endorsed by a majority of Irish voters without a blink.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,768 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manach


    But in the constitution the state is enjoined to "... seeking to promote the common good, with due observance of Prudence, Justice and Charity, so that the dignity and freedom of the individual may be assured ...".
    I'm sure that this will be at the forefront of the party hacks Government's mind when implement this.
    [Irony aside, that would be a No from me.]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,141 ✭✭✭eoin5


    I'm no fan of the justice system and change is definitely needed, but I can't see that helping.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭RMD


    eoin5 wrote: »
    I'm no fan of the justice system and change is definitely needed, but I can't see that helping.

    Problem with the justice system is an inadequate amount of prison spaces leading to the stupid amount of suspended / short sentences we're seeing awarded. Giving politicians power to hold inquiries to a greater level wont change anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,072 ✭✭✭PeterIanStaker


    Not a hope, no. Last thing we need is this. Its a move towards not being given a fair trial.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,012 ✭✭✭✭thebman


    RMD wrote: »
    Problem with the justice system is an inadequate amount of prison spaces leading to the stupid amount of suspended / short sentences we're seeing awarded. Giving politicians power to hold inquiries to a greater level wont change anything.

    I think the main problem isn't even that, it is that white collar crime isn't crime at all in Ireland, in fact is rewarded by lack of consequences at all (and sometimes even with pay offs) so one could say it is encouraged in Ireland at present.

    There is a certain amount of you can't blame a man for stealing your wallet if he knows he'll get a pat on the back for it and a bonus which seems to be how Ireland is operating at present.

    It is very hard for the average person to properly analyze if this referendum is going too far or not as it is a fairly complex wording and the exact consequences are a bit unclear. However, the average person also has to weigh up that this could be the closest thing to consequences for the banking industry that we will ever see in this country.

    It is a complete failure of our justice system and political system that the people have been put in this situation and this rules on white collar crime should have existed before the crisis not only trying to introduce something after the problem has occurred.

    People are inherently biased to want to see punishment now. So the real question is if the Irish people vote this down, how will the people who created our present crisis be forced to answer for their actions. If the answer is they won't then this will pass.


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