Changing to Irish reg

slattsteen

Hi all,sorry if its prob been asked 100 times before but what is the situation with buying a classic in Ireland with UK reg? Im told it doesnt matter to some insurance companys! Others say it could cost 900eu to change over???????
Thanks in advance

si_guru

A "vintage" (30 yr+) car will cost €200 to register in Ireland.. of course it make also require an NCT too.

You can insure a UK reg car in Ireland, but your insurer will inform the revenue of the unregistered vehicle. Also with no legal identity I am not sure how you could ever prove you "own" the vehicle.

macplaxton

slattsteen wrote: »

Hi all,sorry if its prob been asked 100 times before

Don't apologise, but do look at the Classic Cars Charter before posting (It's the sticky at the top of this forum that is entitled "Classic Cars Charter, Info, FAQ & Pics - please read before posting")

corktina

you will have to pay the VRT which could well be €900 or more if it isnt 30 years old. You will also be asked for proof of when it came into the country, its a can of worms and all covered in the charter. Should keep you busy reading it all!

slattsteen

Thanks guys,its a 29 yr old porche that im thinking about, just saw it and its not perfect ,may end up spending bucks on it to keep it in shape!
Want a camaro but this seems cheaper.
Maybe its worth taking a chance on not taxing it until its 30 yrs old,but insure it for now, current owner has it insured for under 200 with fbd,no questions were asked about reg!

si_guru

slattsteen wrote: »

Thanks guys,its a 29 yr old porche that im thinking about, just saw it and its not perfect ,may end up spending bucks on it to keep it in shape!
Want a camaro but this seems cheaper.
Maybe its worth taking a chance on not taxing it until its 30 yrs old,but insure it for now, current owner has it insured for under 200 with fbd,no questions were asked about reg!

Surely he had to tell them the reg???

corktina

slattsteen wrote: »

Thanks guys,its a 29 yr old porche that im thinking about, just saw it and its not perfect ,may end up spending bucks on it to keep it in shape!
Want a camaro but this seems cheaper.
Maybe its worth taking a chance on not taxing it until its 30 yrs old,but insure it for now, current owner has it insured for under 200 with fbd,no questions were asked about reg!

well then you'll get done for no tax as well as not paying the VRT. The Insurance Companies are obliged to tell the Revenue of any cars they insure on foreign plates. You also need to provide a receipt showing date of purchase and provide evidence of date of import when you do the VRT thing.

newmug

si_guru wrote: »

A "vintage" (30 yr+) car will cost €200 to register in Ireland.. of course it make also require an NCT too.

You can insure a UK reg car in Ireland, but your insurer will inform the revenue of the unregistered vehicle. Also with no legal identity I am not sure how you could ever prove you "own" the vehicle.

What if you just insure it in the North, or england, and drive it here?

si_guru

newmug wrote: »

What if you just insure it in the North, or england, and drive it here?

If you live here? I doubt any insurer in the UK will cover your Irish address. Like I said though your Irish insurer will cover a UK car - I did it when I moved here from the UK.

Dades

slattsteen wrote: »

Thanks guys,its a 29 yr old porche that im thinking about, just saw it and its not perfect ,may end up spending bucks on it to keep it in shape!

Post the details here! Get some good car advice as well as bureaucracy stuff.

budfox

If the car is a really good buy, I would do the deal and just sit on it until it reaches 30 years old. You could leave it in storage until then in other words. When I say 30 years, I mean precisely the 30th anniversary date of the date of first registration, not the 30th year. That way you get the plates, cheap tax, €200 VRT etc.

As previous poster said, you need to show receipt of purchase not pre-dating etc and you may be asked for a copy of your ferry ticket to show it wasn't in the state. I brought an MG in August and the VRT folks were pretty cool to deal with actually.

Hope that helps and best of luck with it.

aujopimur

Don't worry about the receipt, a sign in the Blarney NCT/VRT centre says, if don't have a receipt write one out.

carchaeologist

aujopimur wrote: »

Don't worry about the receipt, a sign in the Blarney NCT/VRT centre says, if don't have a receipt write one out.

This makes me laugh every time, 'You MUST have a reciept, it's the law!' 'But a completely made up fake will do just fine'
Ireland is a funny old place.:D

slattsteen

carchaeologist wrote: »

This makes me laugh every time, 'You MUST have a reciept, it's the law!' 'But a completely made up fake will do just fine'
Ireland is a funny old place.:D

That is funny,i ve been qouated 248 3rd party from axa,was aked was it irish reg,they seemed ok when when i said it was uk plates,just asked was i gonna change it over,of course i said i would!
Carole Nash are another co,they normally do bikes, but came to 377 fully comp
waiting on fbd now
thanks for all the help guys,think im gonna take my first jump into the classics field,wanted a camaro,but porche seems a better deal at the mo

aujopimur

slattsteen wrote: »

That is funny,i ve been qouated 248 3rd party from axa,was aked was it irish reg,they seemed ok when when i said it was uk plates,just asked was i gonna change it over,of course i said i would!
Carole Nash are another co,they normally do bikes, but came to 377 fully comp
waiting on fbd now
thanks for all the help guys,think im gonna take my first jump into the classics field,wanted a camaro,but porche seems a better deal at the mo

They have no problem insuring a foreign reg. but will report it to revenue com. after 30 days.

slattsteen

aujopimur wrote: »

They have no problem insuring a foreign reg. but will report it to revenue com. after 30 days.

That would prob cost hundreds to change it now,right? maybe i should just get it and park it so for a year until its 30yrs? i was thinking about taxing it for 3 months(around summer) and then let it run and take a chance,as i wouldnt be driving it much!

aujopimur

You won't be able to tax it unless it's re-reg'd

slattsteen

aujopimur wrote: »

You won't be able to tax it unless it's re-reg'd

Would i not be able to tax it as standard?
FBD got back to me and wont qoute me as its a high powered car, although if im a member of vintage club,they could insure me for 133eu, i think thats the best bet, joining a club is 50eu,right?

corktina

you can't tax it in Ireland unless its Irish registered and the Insurance Company have to report you to the Revenue after 30 days Insured.

In other words if you don't play their way theres a chance you will get caught.
Don.t forget that when you DO come to re-register it, the Revenue will already know it's been in the state a while and could well charge you the VRT that should have been paid plus a "penalty".

macplaxton

corktina wrote: »

the Insurance Company have to report you to the Revenue after 30 days Insured.

Ya talkin' baws Corky!

It's "within one month", which may or may not be 30 days, I'd say it's between 1 and 31 days. And only for policies in excess of 42 days duration.

Maybe there's a market for 41 day policies?

slattsteen

So if i was to reg it tomo,what would it cost roughly? say if it was valued at 1000eu ? What happens if i wait until car turns 30 yrs, cant it be reg then for less then ?

macplaxton

Reg it tomorrow

No emissions proof: 36% VRT on OSMP* of at least €2000

*"Open Market Selling Price" - doesn't matter what you paid, it's the Revenue's book price, the lowest of which is €2000.

So at least €720 + motor tax at current rate depending on engine cc.

Reg it at 30.

Flat rate €200 + motor tax at €48

https://www.ros.ie/evrt-enquiry/vrtenquiry.html?execution=e1s2

slattsteen

macplaxton wrote: »

Reg it tomorrow

No emissions proof: 36% VRT on OSMP* of at least €2000

*"Open Market Selling Price" - doesn't matter what you paid, it's the Revenue's book price, the lowest of which is €2000.

So at least €720 + motor tax at current rate depending on engine cc.

Reg it at 30.

Flat rate €200 + motor tax at €48

https://www.ros.ie/evrt-enquiry/vrtenquiry.html?execution=e1s2

Ok Mac, i think thats good enough for me, was kind of guessing that, so ive to just park it up until next sept(when it was reg first),will be difficult to control myself from lettin it rip,but should be worth it, gives me time to work on it anyhow
Thanks a lot folks

corktina

macplaxton wrote: »

Ya talkin' baws Corky!

It's "within one month", which may or may not be 30 days, I'd say it's between 1 and 31 days. And only for policies in excess of 42 days duration.

Maybe there's a market for 41 day policies?

the point is if you turn up to register it a year later and the Insurance Company have ratted on you to the Revenue they are going to know it was in the country at 29 years old and charge you VRT on that basis.

WDB123

if the insurance company did that it would be poor to tell vrt,this country gets worse with red tape B/S,and these little hitlers at VRT centers are delighted when they rob you,listing all extras & every penny they can get out of yeah with almost a sense of its saving the country ,movin the the year to 79 on nct testing,easy money stealth taxing goes on and on and on

rant over

salysol

slattsteen wrote: »

Would i not be able to tax it as standard?
FBD got back to me and wont qoute me as its a high powered car, although if im a member of vintage club,they could insure me for 133eu, i think thats the best bet, joining a club is 50eu,right?

Campion sparrow ins portlaoise ,€125 t/p and €25 to join the club.