Referees are ****e

paulcorr

I know the rugby world cup is on at the moment,and lots of people have been watching,but when football refs start giving rugby decisions its going a bit far.Managing a team in the Wexford league and we were playing today,2 unbelievable decisions by the ref has me on here.
1st.One of my players recieved the ball in midfield turned and collided with one of the other teams players, he fell to the ground still in control of the ball when two players challenged him for the ball,he swung his foot at the ball while on the ground knocking it forward just as he was booted in the back by one of the other players.we were all up in arms on the side line the ref blew his whistle and awarded a free kick, all the other team went back to defend the free kick but to everyones amazement he awarded the free against my player.His reason been you cannot kick the ball while lying on the ground you must roll away.I told him "that its not rugby were playing" to which he replied "learn the rules".
2nd. 5 minutes to go 2all my centre forward ran onto a ball over the top only to be rugby tackled by the last defender.Free kick and red card,not in this refs eyes free kick and yellow card.His reason been he didnt take him down with his feet because he used his hands it wasnt deemed a red card.Anybody have any worse decisions in their games today ?

The_Kew_Tour

It's a thankless job, would not do it in million years.

CSF

Yeah my ref allegedly racially abused Patrice Evra.

flahavaj

paulcorr wrote: »

I know the rugby world cup is on at the moment,and lots of people have been watching,but when football refs start giving rugby decisions its going a bit far.Managing a team in the Wexford league and we were playing today,2 unbelievable decisions by the ref has me on here.
1st.One of my players recieved the ball in midfield turned and collided with one of the other teams players, he fell to the ground still in control of the ball when two players challenged him for the ball,he swung his foot at the ball while on the ground knocking it forward just as he was booted in the back by one of the other players.we were all up in arms on the side line the ref blew his whistle and awarded a free kick, all the other team went back to defend the free kick but to everyones amazement he awarded the free against my player.His reason been you cannot kick the ball while lying on the ground you must roll away.I told him "that its not rugby were playing" to which he replied "learn the rules".
2nd. 5 minutes to go 2all my centre forward ran onto a ball over the top only to be rugby tackled by the last defender.Free kick and red card,not in this refs eyes free kick and yellow card.His reason been he didnt take him down with his feet because he used his hands it wasnt deemed a red card.Anybody have any worse decisions in their games today ?

He should have red carded you for not having an Enter key on your keyboard. Paragraphs FTW.

paulcorr

flahavaj wrote: »

He should have red carded you for not having an Enter key on your keyboard. Paragraphs FTW.

I did but went back to edit.

BOHtox

paulcorr wrote: »

I know the rugby world cup is on at the moment,and lots of people have been watching,but when football refs start giving rugby decisions its going a bit far.Managing a team in the Wexford league and we were playing today,2 unbelievable decisions by the ref has me on here.
1st.One of my players recieved the ball in midfield turned and collided with one of the other teams players, he fell to the ground still in control of the ball when two players challenged him for the ball,he swung his foot at the ball while on the ground knocking it forward just as he was booted in the back by one of the other players.we were all up in arms on the side line the ref blew his whistle and awarded a free kick, all the other team went back to defend the free kick but to everyones amazement he awarded the free against my player.His reason been you cannot kick the ball while lying on the ground you must roll away.I told him "that its not rugby were playing" to which he replied "learn the rules".
2nd. 5 minutes to go 2all my centre forward ran onto a ball over the top only to be rugby tackled by the last defender.Free kick and red card,not in this refs eyes free kick and yellow card.His reason been he didnt take him down with his feet because he used his hands it wasnt deemed a red card.Anybody have any worse decisions in their games today ?

To which I replied " Use fecking punctuation"!

PARlance

You obviously haven't been managing or playing much ball in a while...

Coming out of a game with only 2 major complaints is less than average!

Refs are sometimes sh*t, but don't forget, most of us lads playing on a sat/sun are fairly sh*t too

DOC09UNAM

You're not supposed to play the ball on the ground.

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DOC09UNAM wrote: »

You're not supposed to play the ball on the ground.

Are you making this up?

Or just taking the piss?

There is no law stating that you are not allowed to touch the ball if you are on the ground

Laws of The Game

If you can find it in there, I'll hand back my referee badge.

DOC09UNAM

Des wrote: »

Are you making this up?

Or just taking the piss?

There is no law stating that you are not allowed to touch the ball if you are on the ground

Laws of The Game

If you can find it in there, I'll hand back my referee badge.

Was only messing really, only thing thats plausible is that if the ref thought he was playing in a dangerous manner.

oldyouth

paulcorr wrote: »

I know the rugby world cup is on at the moment,and lots of people have been watching,but when football refs start giving rugby decisions its going a bit far.Managing a team in the Wexford league and we were playing today,2 unbelievable decisions by the ref has me on here.
1st.One of my players recieved the ball in midfield turned and collided with one of the other teams players, he fell to the ground still in control of the ball when two players challenged him for the ball,he swung his foot at the ball while on the ground knocking it forward just as he was booted in the back by one of the other players.we were all up in arms on the side line the ref blew his whistle and awarded a free kick, all the other team went back to defend the free kick but to everyones amazement he awarded the free against my player.His reason been you cannot kick the ball while lying on the ground you must roll away.I told him "that its not rugby were playing" to which he replied "learn the rules".
2nd. 5 minutes to go 2all my centre forward ran onto a ball over the top only to be rugby tackled by the last defender.Free kick and red card,not in this refs eyes free kick and yellow card.His reason been he didnt take him down with his feet because he used his hands it wasnt deemed a red card.Anybody have any worse decisions in their games today ?

Same as for us in the Wexford League yesterday. Won't name the ref but if you can imagine a 60 year old Papa Smurfit, you'll probably guess who he is. Couldn't keep up with play and awarded frees to whoever shouted the loudest. Luckily we copped this early on and it worked in our favour. They say these things balance out over the season but it really isn't good enough

mosstin

DOC09UNAM wrote: »

You're not supposed to play the ball on the ground.

Said Dave Bassett to the Crazy Gang.

leposean

Would I be right in saying the referee was over the age of thirty? There are many experienced ref's who hear these rules bit by bit here and there and they ref so long that these made up rules just become part of their game.

1.There was nothing wrong with what your player did, if anything their player could have recieved a red card and 3 game ban along with a fine for violent conduct.

2.Free kick (if outside the box obviously) and red card for their player. Simple as.

Give you an example of my comment on older referee's, I'm 23, I was reffing an all Ireland semi final at 21, well assistant referee anyway. Ball came in from a corner or cross, can't remember which, accidently hit a defender on the hand(hands were down to a reasonable state anyway) the referee and myself both saw this, neither of us did anything, the ball bounced heading towards the keeper where an attacking player was only for a different defender to, deliberately or not handled it, hands not by his side, 100% penalty, I flag referee tells me to put the flag down. After the game he berated me for putting him in a bad position. He wouldn't take my word for it. He's more experienced I should know my place.

Last week the team I am managing get a corner, loosing 3-0, 20 minutes to go, all over the opposition. Ball comes in keeper punches it, falls to a player, edge of the box, bang going for top corner then a Luis Suarez wannabee makes a Schemichel esque save as he;s on the line. Referee gives penalty, no Red Card, not even a yellow, his justification, there was a defending player on the other post so therefore the player who handled it wasn't the last man.

As a referee I'll stand up for most things referee's get wrong. We all make mistakes, 100% and thats ok, players make mistakes, why can't we. But players know the rules, so should referee's, players abide by the rules and play the game and know the game and its rules. Referee's have to know the rules and ''rule'' the game that way.

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leposean wrote: »

But players know the rules

No they don't.

Hulk Hands

Both the OP and the post above there have explained cases where there should have been red cards.

The refs in basically every league in this country, underage or not, don't like giving out red cards. It creates a controversy that they can do without. It doesn't mean its right though.

Ive heard about an underage coach who took it all very seriously. Told his players to bring a lad down at all costs if a goal seemed likely. No reds given all year and rare if the player was given a yellow for it. At the top level we complain about refs being card happy but they are the opposite in amateur football

leposean

The problem we have at the top level of football here is the referee's are amateurs or I suppose you could say semi professional. Someone like Neil Doyle who is probably the best referee in the league teaches in a school Mon-Friday and then trains two nights a week and has a game on Friday and then something be it 4th official of LSL on Sunday. They have ''seminars'' once every few months. Its not enough to make them as good as the likes of Spain, Italy, England etc

YouTookMyName

"The trouble with referees is that they know the rules, but they don't know the game." Bill Shankly

newballsplease

Why in Junior Soccer are you not allowed to call 'My Ball' or its a free against your team?
daftest thing ever..

El Weirdo

newballsplease wrote: »

Why in Junior Soccer are you not allowed to call 'My Ball' or its a free against your team?
daftest thing ever..

I don't think you are allowed to do that at any level. You have to call your name, do you not?

newballsplease

El Weirdo wrote: »

I don't think you are allowed to do that at any level. You have to call your name, do you not?

jees, AFAIK i doubt you'd see it in the Premierleague or International??

Surely it couldnt be.

I think its only Junior Football. Yea you have to call your name. I just think its the most ridiculous rule ever. Especially when its not even in the Rules AFAIK in Soccer.(It couldnt be?)

Im sure its a safety thing, ie. 2 young players going to head the same ball? Ive just seen players being penalised even when the ball is on the ground and nobody around them.

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Shouting "Leave it" is bad form on a football pitch, in my opinion.

Especially **** who shout "leave it", but who play for the other team, sneaky cúnts they are.

El Weirdo

newballsplease wrote: »

jees, AFAIK i doubt you'd see it in the Premierleague or International??

Surely it couldnt be.

I think its only Junior Football. Yea you have to call your name. I just think its the most ridiculous rule ever. Especially when its not even in the Rules AFAIK in Soccer.(It couldnt be?)

Im sure its a safety thing, ie. 2 young players going to head the same ball? Ive just seen players being penalised even when the ball is on the ground and nobody around them.

AFAIK it's to prevent an attacking player shouting "my ball" when, for an example, a cross is coming into the box and therefore making the defenders hesitate by thinking that their 'keeper has made the call. It's all to do with ungentlemanly conduct and that lark.

newballsplease

El Weirdo wrote: »

AFAIK it's to prevent an attacking player shouting "my ball" when, for an example, a cross is coming into the box and therefore making the defenders hesitate by thinking that their 'keeper has made the call. It's all to do with ungentlemanly conduct and that lark.

And you think its at all levels? Id be amazed if it was. Ive never seen a free out given for it at the highest level.
Maybe nobody shouts 'My ball' or 'Leave it' etc at them levels?

billymitchell

Des wrote: »

Shouting "Leave it" is bad form on a football pitch, in my opinion.

Especially **** who shout "leave it", but who play for the other team, sneaky cúnts they are.

I do that all that time in 5 aside, or shout the name of the man on the ball, as in pass it to me. I am a cúnt for doing it, but it livens the game up a bit

El Weirdo

newballsplease wrote: »

And you think its at all levels? Id be amazed if it was. Ive never seen a free out given for it at the highest level.
Maybe nobody shouts 'My ball' or 'Leave it' etc at them levels?

Actually, I heard it mentioned quite recently whilst watching a Premier League game on MOTD or something.

Edit: Actually, a quick google brings up this.

Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct 1/25/2011

RE: Competive Adult
Trevor Giff of Dundalk, Louth Ireland asks...

During games I am constantly questioned as to why I do not award a n indirect free kick when a players calls 'leave it' or 'my ball'.
It is my understanding of the Laws of the Game that I am correct in not awarding the free kick. If a player was the diliberatly shout directly at an opponenent then I would award an indirect free kick and also caution the player for ungentlemanly conduct.
Please let me know if my understanding is correct
Answer provided by Referee Joe McHugh

Hi Trevor
You are absolutely 100% correct with the provisio that the caution is for USB unsporting behaviour. UC is no longer used as a caution term. Unfortunately a myth has developed in the game, added to might I say by some referees who do not know the laws or who choose to ignore them, where an IDFK is called for and awarded for the use of a shout without a name.
It is only an IDFK if the referee stops play to caution a player for verbally distracting an opponent during play or at a restart. That rarely, if ever, happen with a shout to a team mate of 'leave it' or 'my ball' and communication between player is part and parcel of the game which should not be penalised. What has happened is that players, to be absolutely certain that it will not be called as an offence, put what they call 'a name on it' so 'MICK'S BALL' 'MICKS' at the top of the voice is never challenged as an offence. That adds to the myth as well. What is more likely as an offence is a shout by a player to an opponent of 'MISS IT' or 'BOOOOO' ' as an opponent goes to play a ball and he/she is distracted.
What I say to players is that it can only be an IDFK if it is a caution as it cannot be an IDFK on its own. Unfortunately I know referees who give the IDFK even after being told that the test of the offence is that it must be a caution for an IDFK to be awarded. One referee told me that he did not like a forward shouting loudly for the ball and that he called the IDFK to stop him shouting and the shouting did not merit a caution. Is it any wonder players then look for an 'easy' free kick!!

tuxy

I don't under stand why Fifa does not remove all refs from games. The teams would get on much better unsupervised.

Turtyturd

tuxy wrote: »

I don't under stand why Fifa does not remove all refs from games. The teams would get on much better unsupervised.

Jumpers for goal posts, 12 steps for a penalty and play last man back?

PARlance

Turtyturd wrote: »

Jumpers for goal posts, 12 steps for a penalty and play last man back?

Ah those were the days, when my biggest grievance was if it was over/under the imaginary crossbar!

I seem to recall that it was an adjustable imaginary crossbar too, that being however high a particular sized lad could jump and "touch".

Ah the fights...

newballsplease

Turtyturd wrote: »

Jumpers for goal posts, 12 steps for a penalty and play last man back?

not forgetting 'Next Goal Wins'!

you could be winning 6-1...but it would still be Next goal wins!!

markesmith

Headers and volleys if there's less than eight of us :cool:

Mars Bar

markesmith wrote: »

Headers and volleys if there's less than eight of us :cool:

I loved that. Get the keeper to boot it up into the sky, fight with the fellas as the ball was in the air and then try and catch a sweet hit!

Fun times...

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One referee told me that he did not like a forward shouting loudly for the ball and that he called the IDFK to stop him shouting and the shouting did not merit a caution. Is it any wonder players then look for an 'easy' free kick!!

Bloody weird.

Some referees are just total weirdos.

A few weeks ago, in a Boardeaux match we were losing 0-1, we got a penalty, which we missed. The keeper saved it, and their defender kicked it out for a throw, and we ended up scoring in that movement.

We then got another penalty, for a professional foul, definite, clear as day penalty, definitel clear as day professional foul - red card. Only the ref didn't even book the player. We scored that one, and ended up winning 3-1 I think.

After the match, I asked the ref about the incident.

"It would have been an easy card to give Des, but yiz just got a penalty and about to go 2-1 up, so it would have ruined the game"

"But we missed our first penalty"

"Ah, you never miss the second"

:rolleyes: