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Who do you think would have been right?

  • 15-10-2011 5:16pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭


    Completely a theoretical discussion as thankfully nothing happened but:

    At a crossroad I was making a right turn, the car opposite me was also making a right turn so we both went to the turning points and made our right turns. While I was completing mine, the car behind the one opposite me decided to drive ahead as soon as possible (i.e. the car making the right turn opposite to mine had just cleared the lane and was about to enter the new road, same as myself). Obviously his way was blocked by me so he had to brake again and as I made it out of his way he blew his horn and then sped off.

    I was just wondering who would have been wrong had there been a collision? I'm fairly certain that I didn't do anything wrong but the fact that I was in his lane gives me some pause for thought.
    Any opinions?


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  • Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    'twould depend, if he jammed on the brakes as soon as he could and hit your drivers side wing as you turned you'd be in much worse position than if he hit your passenger side rear quarter panel with his passenger side front with no skidmark.

    I imagine you'd be in a bad position either way though as you;d have initiated your maneuver without having had time to complete it unless he did stop, as he has the right of way you'd be wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭barura


    Did this involve a White VW polo?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭savagecabbages


    From your description you seem to have turned into (and crossed) an oncoming cars lane, which puts you in the wrong, from a rules of the road perspective. From an everyday driving point of view that car maybe should have left you across if he/she was stationary while waiting for the first car to move out of his/her lane.

    You could have been the victim of unfortunate circumstances...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    barura wrote: »
    Did this involve a White VW polo?

    No. :confused::confused::confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭barura


    Just wondering, I was pretty much in the same situation earlier. It was a bit too specific in your description not to ask!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    barura wrote: »
    Just wondering, I was pretty much in the same situation earlier. It was a bit too specific in your description not to ask!

    Cool. Hope everyone in your situation was similarly unhit. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,009 ✭✭✭OldmanMondeo


    You were wrong as you had to cross the opposite lane of traffic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    Was the car you nearly crashed with stationary behind that vehicle opposite you which was turinging right? And only started accelerating when the other car turned?
    Or was he just driving at speed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    OP, you were entering his right of way, and were therefore lucky there was no contact. That said, he was a ***** for not allowing you clear the junction.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    CiniO wrote: »
    Was the car you nearly crashed with stationary behind that vehicle opposite you which was turinging right? And only started accelerating when the other car turned?
    Or was he just driving at speed?

    He started accelerating when the other car turned. But in hindsight I was just so very lucky that nothing happened. I was actually in his way to be fair.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    He started accelerating when the other car turned. But in hindsight I was just so very lucky that nothing happened. I was actually in his way to be fair.

    Actually, I should probably rephrase that. He started accelerating when the other car started accelerating. So the other car was turning when he started going, the other car hadn't actually completed the turn when he took off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭Wexfordian


    No yellow box I presume?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    No yellow box I presume?

    Don't think so. But I'll check on Google Maps.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    He started accelerating when the other car turned. But in hindsight I was just so very lucky that nothing happened. I was actually in his way to be fair.

    In addition to rule about giving way to oncoming driver when you are turning right, there is as well the rule of giving way to vehicle already on the junction.

    If he was stopped before the junction, and only started accelerating when you were already on the junction, I can see more of his fault than yours.

    Probably it could end up at 50/50.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    Wexfordian wrote: »
    No yellow box I presume?
    Don't think so. But I'll check on Google Maps.

    Yep. No Yellow Box.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,054 ✭✭✭Carsinian Thau


    CiniO wrote: »
    In addition to rule about giving way to oncoming driver when you are turning right, there is as well the rule of giving way to vehicle already on the junction.

    If he was stopped before the junction, and only started accelerating when you were already on the junction, I can see more of his fault than yours.

    Probably it could end up at 50/50.

    I was definitely already on the junction when he took off. That's originally what made me think I was ok. But then again, he had right of way, his light was green and due to the layout, I was completely in his way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭savagecabbages


    Happens in smaller roundabouts all the time. You might pull into an empty roundabout and by the time you have half your car inside the roundabout someone comes barreling into the roundabout from a bigger road (and a perceived right of way) without yielding and flashes and beeps like theres no tomorrow :rolleyes:

    Give way to traffic already in the junction/roundabout

    Edit: and i'm no slouch pulling into roundabouts!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭barura


    Cool. Hope everyone in your situation was similarly unhit. :D
    Nope, noone. Glad I got out of it in one piece actually! :D


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