Taken pictures from 1000D problem

LeakingLava

Hi everybody, I am not sure if this is the right place for this thread but here it is anyway. Mods please do feel free to move this thread if you want if it is in the wrong place. Thanks.

I recently took some pictures in Dublin City and for some reason when I put the SD card into my memory card reader and into the USB plug in my computer, there was some kind of error and Windows asked me to choose between 'Scan and Fix' and 'Continue without Scanning'. Wanting to be sure that the pictures would still be there, I picked the first option. Then when I looked into the folder where the pictures are, my heart just sort of swallowed itself due to the massive depression that I got when I saw the pictures. They were all sort of truncated or something like that. Any options I can do to probably fix it or something? Did I do something wrong? Anybody with the same experience?

LeakingLava

What you're probably seeing is just a sort of a part of a picture, but what I'm seeing is just a grey area where the picture is supposed to be.

jpfahy

Try putting the card back in the camera and connecting it to the computer.
Is the card a good quality card or unbranded?

LeakingLava

jpfahy wrote: »

Try putting the card back in the camera and connecting it to the computer.
Is the card a good quality card or unbranded?

The card I strongly believe is a good brand. I'll try to connect the camera into the computer but I highly doubt that that will work because when I put the card back into the camera, all I see is a tiny sort of thumbnail of the picture and a message saying 'Cannot play back image'. But sure I'll try that now. Thanks for the suggestion.

LeakingLava

Here's what happened. When I plugged the camera into the computer, all the thumbnails are showing ALL the pictures well. But when I VIEW a picture, as in double-click it, it shows me the gray area yet again. It's really annoying

jpfahy

Looks like the card is corrupted to be honest. Google 'file recovery software'. A lot of them do free trials that you can download. You'll be able to see then whether the files can be recovered before you spend any money.
Put the card in the bin then as it's not to be trusted.
A high percentage of memory cards on eBay are fake by the way.

LeakingLava

jpfahy wrote: »

Looks like the card is corrupted to be honest. Google 'file recovery software'. A lot of them do free trials that you can download. You'll be able to see then whether the files can be recovered before you spend any money.
Put the card in the bin then as it's not to be trusted.
A high percentage of memory cards on eBay are fake by the way.

In fact, the card was bought from Currys in Jervis, Dublin. It's a Lexar 8Gb Class 6. Should I go to them and ask about it? I have the camera on warranty but I am really not sure if I have the memory card in warranty with the camera.

jpfahy

LeakingLava wrote: »

In fact, the card was bought from Currys in Jervis, Dublin. It's a Lexar 8Gb Class 6. Should I go to them and ask about it? I have the camera on warranty but I am really not sure if I have the memory card in warranty with the camera.

A Lexar card bought in Curry's should be good. You didn't turn off the camera/ pop out the card while it was being written to by any chance?
You should also try the card in another computer and see if it behaves differently.

LeakingLava

jpfahy wrote: »

A Lexar card bought in Curry's should be good. You didn't turn off the camera/ pop out the card while it was being written to by any chance?
You should also try the card in another computer and see if it behaves differently.

Nope I didn't do anything like that. But I did do something earlier, deleted a lot of pictures. About 100+ maybe. Those 100+ pictures are the previous pictures that I took and already uploaded but I forgot to delete them from the camera memory card so I just deleted them when I saw them earlier. Then after that, all of this happened.

I did try it in a different computer, same results.

Do you think I should go to Currys and try get them to change this or something?

I just tried to search and download one of those file recovery things but as far as I can see, they are only for deleted files or something like that. Am I searching the wrong things? I tried to download one and when I tried to search for a broken file, it didn't detect the pictures as broken.

jpfahy

For peace of mind I'd be bringing the card back to Curry's and asking them to swop it for another. I have my camera set to 'RAW+Jpeg' - that way the camera writes two files to the card for every photo taken. Uses up more space but less chance of a problem.
Can't advise you on software as I suspect you're on Windoze and I'm on a Mac.

LeakingLava

jpfahy wrote: »

For peace of mind I'd be bringing the card back to Curry's and asking them to swop it for another. I have my camera set to 'RAW+Jpeg' - that way the camera writes two files to the card for every photo taken. Uses up more space but less chance of a problem.
Can't advise you on software as I suspect you're on Windoze and I'm on a Mac.

Do you think that Currys would even look at my case? I mean, it was working the first time I used it so do you think they'll be thick and just not take my word into account that I haven't done anything wrong with the card?

Thanks a lot jpfahy. You answered all my questions. Thanks again.

artyeva

LeakingLava wrote: »

Nope I didn't do anything like that. But I did do something earlier, deleted a lot of pictures. About 100+ maybe. Those 100+ pictures are the previous pictures that I took and already uploaded but I forgot to delete them from the camera memory card so I just deleted them when I saw them earlier. Then after that, all of this happened.

I did try it in a different computer, same results.

Do you think I should go to Currys and try get them to change this or something?

I just tried to search and download one of those file recovery things but as far as I can see, they are only for deleted files or something like that. Am I searching the wrong things? I tried to download one and when I tried to search for a broken file, it didn't detect the pictures as broken.

if, when the card is connected to a pc via a card reader, you delete images... rather than deleting them while the card is in the camera... you get the error 'cannot read file' or 'cannot display image' when you then try and view them in the camera. so that's probably it. you're best off copying all the images to a folder on your hard drive and THEN delete what you don't want, the put the card back in the camera and format it. for future reference like... i'd still try the file recovery software for now though.

LeakingLava

artyeva wrote: »

if, when the card is connected to a pc via a card reader, you delete images... rather than deleting them while the card is in the camera... you get the error 'cannot read file' or 'cannot display image' when you then try and view them in the camera. so that's probably it. you're best off copying all the images to a folder on your hard drive and THEN delete what you don't want, the put the card back in the camera and format it. for future reference like... i'd still try the file recovery software for now though.

I didn't delete the images I'm trying to view right now. What I deleted were older pictures but in the same folder in the same camera in the same memory card. I deleted the older pictures but I kept my hands off the new pictures. Then when I tried to view the pictures while the card is still plugged into the card reader and into the computer, I just can't.

artyeva

yes. i know, i've read the thread!

i was just answering the point that you made about not being able to see the images in camera, and pointed to a reason for it.

i said ''for now'' - to your more ugent issue - try the recovery software. just don't write any more data onto the card before you do as i've read that can cause problems.

LeakingLava

artyeva wrote: »

yes. i know, i've read the thread!

i was just answering the point that you made about not being able to see the images in camera, and pointed to a reason for it.

i said ''for now'' - to your more ugent issue - try the recovery software. just don't write any more data onto the card before you do as i've read that can cause problems.

Well I'm a bit confused now. I mean, why would there be issues seeing the images, that I didn't delete, in the camera? I mean unless there is something wrong, that couldn't be possible could it?

I did try one of those recovery softwares but when I did, it basically didn't notice anything wrong with the pictures. It's as if the images were saved that way or something.

The images, are valuable of course (else I wouldn't be taking them), but they aren't that important. I can always go into town and take some pictures with my family, that's fine (not REALLLLYY fine but you know, we'll get over some pictures). I'm just concerned about future events, such as tomorrow for example :S. There's a big event tomorrow night so I have to get this sorted by tomorrow.

artyeva

i know you're stressed and it's late but it doesn't have to be confusing op.

1] try a different recovery software. do a thread search on here - there has been a few different ones reccommended.
2] buy a new card for your event tomorrow, and format it as soon as you put it in your camera.
3] at your leisure, when you're less stressed and have more time, try the recovery software on the old card. if it still doesn't work, throw it out and chalk it up.
4] don't delete images via your pc.

LeakingLava

artyeva wrote: »

i know you're stressed and it's late but it doesn't have to be confusing op.

1] try a different recovery software. do a thread search on here - there has been a few different ones reccommended.
2] buy a new card for your event tomorrow, and format it as soon as you put it in your camera.
3] at your leisure, when you're less stressed and have more time, try the recovery software on the old card. if it still doesn't work, throw it out and chalk it up.
4] don't delete images via your pc.

Can I not go into Currys and try if they're going to replace it or not? As long as I have something that I can use tomorrow, the pictures that I took earlier don't really matter, I don't really mind if I lose them or not(it would be great if I get them but meh). Really don't have cash in hand right now. Didn't think this would happen . I'm going to try the recovery softwares right now as I don't really have much else to do.

mlumley

Take it back, with camera. If its a laptop you use take that as well. Get them to check it out. Ask for a new card. Good luck.

LeakingLava

mlumley wrote: »

Take it back, with camera. If its a laptop you use take that as well. Get them to check it out. Ask for a new card. Good luck.

Yeah. Exactly what I'm going to do tomorrow. What do you think would they do? :S

LeakingLava

Just tried 'recuva' and I basically got nothing out of it. I got about 4 pictures out of 141 pictures and all those 4 pictures has the gray area bit that's cutting about half of the picture. Any more suggestions? Should I try other softwares? Or leave it there?

Rainbowsend

If you are not that worried about the pics, then format the card and take a few pics and see what happens. If the same thing happens take the card back and ask for a replacement. If it works grand, but you probably wont trust it again.

McVitae

OK Firstly no-one here has pointed out the fact that you should NOT have pressed "Scan and Fix" to start with. You cant be sure but this could have worsened the problem. if you ever see this message. continue without scanning, take everything off the memory card to back it up and then format it.
Secondly this message usually appears because the file system on the disk is corrupted but it could also be for even more benign reasons. Neither of these possibilities include there being a high probability of anything being wrong with the hardware. The memory stick is probably fine. If after formatting you see it again and again then there is a problem.
Thirdly seeing a perfect thumbnail does not mean you can ever see the full image correctly. the thumbnail is likely to be stored in a separate part of the file which is not currupt
Lastly try http://www.asoftech.com/advancedcarving.html to recover the missing jpeg blocks as it is likely to be only a few corrupt image blocks but you cant be sure

LeakingLava

Hi McVitae, what you were thinking was exactly what was on my mind before I posted this thread. It's most likely that that was what happened (i think). Which do I download from that link? The photo recovery or the data recovery?

CabanSail

Do not delete photo's in the camera, just leave them there. For some reason deleting files in the camera makes corruption more likely.

After uploading the pics then format the card.

I have had a card do this in the past. Reformatted it and have had no problems since. The weird thing is that I was shooting Jpeg for that shoot. I have not had this problem with RAW data.

LeakingLava

suggestion taken. Thanks a lot.

McVitae

Id try both starting with the photo recovery tool. It could be worth a try.

McVitae

Interesting point CabanSail. The effect described could be an issue with the jpeg compression algorithm. Its a complex algorithm and file format. Im not that familiar with the RAW file format or structure but I would be very surprised it was half as complex (and therefore error prone) as the jpeg format. I shoot with a 450D and remember seeing this before. Maybe its a problem with the Canon JPEG compression. Just an educated guess though.

LeakingLava

McVitae wrote: »

Lastly try http://www.asoftech.com/advancedcarving.html to recover the missing jpeg blocks as it is likely to be only a few corrupt image blocks but you cant be sure

Well I just tried it out and it wants me to buy it to start recovering stuff so I really don't think that would help me in anyway at all.

hbr

LeakingLava wrote: »

Well I just tried it out and it wants me to buy it to start recovering stuff so I really don't think that would help me in anyway at all.

PhotoRec is very good and it is free (in both senses of the word).
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec

LeakingLava

hbr wrote: »

PhotoRec is very good and it is free (in both senses of the word).
http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec

I'm sorry but I just don't understand one thing when I executed photorec.