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Propaganda Still Exists

  • 14-10-2011 12:16am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭


    http://vimeo.com/29280708

    Interesting video how photographers for the media make drama from nothing. Very interesting point at the end where he would like to see how this is effected in african and arab countries during rebellions.

    For people who cant be bothered to watch the video. Basically its a photographer taking photo's of photographers themselves during "riots" in palestine. They bring in actors to create dramatic scenes to sell photos to the western world media.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 175 ✭✭whubee


    no **** - try watching RT sometime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    When did people start thinking propaganda had stopped :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    It's called Public Relations. Seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Full.Duck


    whubee wrote: »
    no **** - try watching RT sometime

    RT is the same. All media is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    When did people thinking propaganda had stopped :confused:

    February 18th, 1997.

    There was a public information film about it on the telly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭Full.Duck


    February 18th, 1997.

    There was government sponsored film about it.

    Knew i shouldnt have posted this in AH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,261 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    February 18th, 1997.

    There was a public information film about it on the telly.

    Ah I was only 13 then, I was busy watching something good.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    whubee wrote: »
    no **** - try watching RTÉ sometime

    :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,980 ✭✭✭Dotrel


    Louis Theroux's latest doc was also on that bridge area. I reckon it's just a theme park for 'journalists'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,192 ✭✭✭EarlERizer


    Sky news , BBC news 24, CNN, etc etc etc & every published 'news'paper in circulation.

    Turn off your TV , newspapers aren't worth the paper they're printed on.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭Dodd


    Op did you do some research on this from countries world wide or just post some one sided video you found.?


    They all do it and some of history is based on propaganda.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,030 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    My parents told me there was a man in the sky who loved me but was watching me 24x7x365 to make sure I didn't touch my pee-pee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 814 ✭✭✭Tesco Massacre


    I'd like to take a propa ganda at your ma's jugs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    Every single side in every single conflict uses propaganda.

    Things like the link in the OP don't even vaguely surprise me anymore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    Half of what you see and none of what you read.

    Beyond simple propaganda, if you ever read a piece about Ireland or another topic you're knowledgable on in most major media, there are almost always mistakes.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux



    Beyond simple propaganda, if you ever read a piece about Ireland or another topic you're knowledgable on in most major media, there are almost always mistakes.

    I absolutely agree with this. Numerous times i've been reading things about topics i'm very familiar with in "non-native/industry" publications and i've said aloud, to myself, "Well, that's not right :mad:".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    an unnamed source equals lies made up the journalist in many cases

    As we saw when the Amanda Knox verdict broke the Daily Mail put up an article with quotes from the prosecutor welcoming the guilty verdict.
    Of course the verdict was the opposite so the quote was made up, owned :pac:
    Well that's more incompetence then propaganda


    This was filmed by an Irish crew, well done to them
    You can edit and film a story to show what you want to show and this is demonstrated

    You will see the State media with troops on a bridge and they are monitoring an angry crowd below.
    But zoom out and check from a different angle and there is no crowd.
    Anything can be manipulated

    edit, I don't where that is in the program, it's a few years since I've seen it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭CoolHat


    The news is a bunch of half truths or full blown lies mixed along with the so called truth. Its all crap. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to open their eyes more.

    Its an art form. To spinning something, to blowing something out of proportion, to even flat out lying. They're masters of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Media objectivity is probably one of the greatest propaganda spins of them all.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    CoolHat wrote: »
    The news is a bunch of half truths or full blown lies mixed along with the so called truth. Its all crap. Anyone who thinks otherwise needs to open their eyes more.

    Its an art form. To spinning something, to blowing something out of proportion, to even flat out lying. They're masters of it.

    It's not just the news though. Protest/lobbying groups/terrorists/governments/any-****ing-body will do exactly the same things as well.

    The best way to get someone on you side or at least make them somewhat sympathetic to your point of view is to lie to them in a manner that speaks to them and their concerns.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Propaganda exists on both sides of the fence and both sides lie to get people on their side.

    Sickens me when I hear defence of both sides with the likes of "Well, stretching the truth to get people to fight for the side that's correct is worthwhile in the long run!"

    No, it's not. It makes you no less of a lying scumbag than the people you're supposedly fighting against and utterly ruins the point you're trying to portray. Lying to get people to back you up is childish and manipulative.

    My Facebook wall is full to the brim with this sort of random protest / petition nonsense from people who don't seem to possess the capabilities to double-check, nay, treble-check sources.

    When you have someone trying to convince you that flatscreen monitors are part of a conspiracy from capitialist pigs, serve no function in IT business and are worse than "those older fatter ones" because it said so in videos like The Story Of Stuff then you know when someone has been suckered in and are beyond reasoning.


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