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The concept of "Honesty"

  • 12-10-2011 3:02pm
    #1
    TheyKnowMyIP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭


    I think absolute honesty is an insanely childish concept. Would you agree? Honesty is only relative to your circumstances. What do you think? Are you liberal when it comes to ethical concerns? Seems like 100% honesty won't get you far in this life. Any takers?


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  • #2
    Corvo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Corvo


    Honestly, I dont know.


  • #3
    TheyKnowMyIP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Go home and tell your girlfriend is a hoor. She will appreciate the "honesty" no doubt.


  • #4
    geetar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 469 ✭✭geetar


    i dunno, but i think youre lying


  • #5
    billymitchell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,996 ✭✭✭✭billymitchell


    (Yore ma|blast it with piss|more magnets|atari jaguar|Cool story brah)


  • #6
    lastlaugh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭lastlaugh


    TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »
    Go home and tell your girlfriend is a hoor. She will appreciate the "honesty" no doubt.

    If you both know she is a 'hoor', what's the problem?


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  • #7
    eyescreamcone
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,562 ✭✭✭eyescreamcone


    I prefer the lie by omission myself!!!


  • #8
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    I can lie but it doesn't come naturally to me. I generally find it hard to think of lies,but then I also have a **** imagination.
    I can't see how 100% honesty is childish at all :confused:


  • #9
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    nice guys finish last


  • #10
    TheyKnowMyIP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Nah, exploiting holes in the system is much better. If they haven't anticipated it, I've worked around it:) Just as well the serious stuff is covered well. As should be the case. If you can't design something properly, you deserve the exploitation imo.


  • #11
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »
    I think absolute honesty is an insanely childish concept. Would you agree? Honesty is only relative to your circumstances. What do you think? Are you liberal when it comes to ethical concerns? Seems like 100% honesty won't get you far in this life. Any takers?

    You can't be 100% honest all of the time. I was dating a girl once and she was complaining that she was suffering from water retention in her legs...now I had previously seen a photo of her mam and she was slowly but surely turning into her. Honest answer would have been "ah sure your mam has fat legs and you'll eventually end up the same as her, it's genetics and there's nothing you can do". Instead I replied "oh that shocking, I think I read something about fluid retention in legs before, it's a medical condition".

    White lies are OK every now and then.


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  • #12
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    TheZohan wrote: »
    You can't be 100% honest all of the time. I was dating a girl once and she was complaining that she was suffering from water retention in her legs...now I had previously seen a photo of her mam and she was slowly but surely turning into her. Honest answer would have been "ah sure your mam has fat legs and you'll eventually end up the same as her, it's genetics and there's nothing you can do". Instead I replied "oh that shocking, I think I read something about fluid retention in legs before, it's a medical condition".

    White lies are OK every now and then.

    Unless she was saying it for reassurance there was no need to lie about it at all.


  • #13
    --Kaiser--
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭--Kaiser--


    TheZohan wrote: »
    You can't be 100% honest all of the time. I was dating a girl once and she was complaining that she was suffering from water retention in her legs...now I had previously seen a photo of her mam and she was slowly but surely turning into her. Honest answer would have been "ah sure your mam has fat legs and you'll eventually end up the same as her, it's genetics and there's nothing you can do". Instead I replied "oh that shocking, I think I read something about fluid retention in legs before, it's a medical condition".

    White lies are OK every now and then.

    You shoulda said "you aint retaining water, you retaining bacon!"*





    *stolen from Chris Rock


  • #14
    BBDBB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    TheZohan wrote: »
    You can't be 100% honest all of the time. I was dating a girl once and she was complaining that she was suffering from water retention in her legs...now I had previously seen a photo of her mam and she was slowly but surely turning into her. Honest answer would have been "ah sure your mam has fat legs and you'll eventually end up the same as her, it's genetics and there's nothing you can do". Instead I replied "oh that shocking, I think I read something about fluid retention in legs before, it's a medical condition".

    White lies are OK every now and then.

    yeah, brought about medically by pork pies and chips


  • #15
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »
    I think absolute honesty is an insanely childish concept. Would you agree? Honesty is only relative to your circumstances. What do you think? Are you liberal when it comes to ethical concerns? Seems like 100% honesty won't get you far in this life. Any takers?

    Honesty is better in some circumstances but if we were 100% honest all the time we would have no friends.
    A little white lie to spare someone's feelings is ok and kinder.


  • #16
    Corvo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Corvo


    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    You shoulda said "you aint retaining water, you retaining bacon!"*





    *stolen from Chris Rock


    Your retaining Mars Bars!


    stolen from Billy Connolly


  • #17
    im invisible
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    TheZohan wrote: »
    You can't be 100% honest all of the time. I was dating a girl once and she was complaining that she was suffering from water retention in her legs...now I had previously seen a photo of her mam and she was slowly but surely turning into her. Honest answer would have been "ah sure your mam has fat legs and you'll eventually end up the same as her, it's genetics and there's nothing you can do". Instead I replied "oh that shocking, I think I read something about fluid retention in legs before, it's a medical condition".

    White lies are OK every now and then.
    should have just given her a tap on the ankle....


  • #18
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    stupidusername wrote: »
    Unless she was saying it for reassurance there was no need to lie about it at all.

    My reply was the lesser of two evils.
    --Kaiser-- wrote: »
    You shoulda said "you aint retaining water, you retaining bacon!"*
    BBDBB wrote: »
    yeah, brought about medically by pork pies and chips

    Nah she didn't eat a lot, lots of exercise and a very healthy diet, was just down to genes.


  • #19
    Saila
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    does my bum look big in this?

    answer given: no it looks great on you

    honest answer: nasa called they want to know has your planet been named yet, they can see it without looking through the telescope, ffs put something else on woman :mad:


  • #20
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    TheZohan wrote: »
    My reply was the lesser of two evils.

    Nah she didn't eat a lot, lots of exercise and a very healthy diet, was just down to genes.

    No it wasn't.did you have to give your opinion on whether or not it was a real thing? If not then you could've said "i dont know much about water retention,is there anything you can do for it?" that way you're not lying and you're not being nasty.


  • #21
    TheyKnowMyIP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    stupidusername wrote: »
    I can lie but it doesn't come naturally to me. I generally find it hard to think of lies,but then I also have a **** imagination.
    I can't see how 100% honesty is childish at all :confused:

    If you look nervous while lying, you're doing it wrong! There are times I come to believe my own bull****. You have to frame your codswallop into an alternative, parallel universe and evaluate all the possible situational outcomes beforehand. If you can't believe it yourself, how to you expect others to?


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  • #22
    BBDBB
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,899 ✭✭✭✭BBDBB


    Saila wrote: »
    does my bum look big in this?

    answer given: no it looks great on you

    honest answer: nasa called they want to know has your planet been named yet, they can see it without looking through the telescope, ffs put something else on woman :mad:


    "no dear, not just that"


    wrong answer apparently

    who'd a thunk?


  • #23
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    stupidusername wrote: »
    No it wasn't.did you have to give your opinion on whether or not it was a real thing? If not then you could've said "i dont know much about water retention,is there anything you can do for it?" that way you're not lying and you're not being nasty.

    Yes, I did. I wasn't nasty, I went with a white lie rather than tell her she'd eventually end up like her mam.

    Guys if you want to know what the girl you're dating will look like in a few years just look at their mother. Genetics is a bitch.


  • #24
    TheyKnowMyIP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    I think the wife thing is almost an unwritten exception though. If you are honest in that situation, you deserve everything coming imo. Women generally don't tend to take complete honesty too well imo.


  • #25
    Gmol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Gmol


    TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »
    If you look nervous while lying, you're doing it wrong! There are times I come to believe my own bull****. You have to frame your codswallop into an alternative, parallel universe and evaluate all the possible situational outcomes beforehand. If you can't believe it yourself, how to you expect others to?


    You is de management


  • #26
    TheyKnowMyIP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    Gmol wrote: »
    You is de management

    Wut?


  • #27
    Dravokivich
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    mikemac wrote: »
    nice guys finish last

    I have you know i came Second(last) once.


  • #28
    hondasam
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Tact & diplomacy is the best option in some circumstances. There is no need to be 100% honest all the time.


  • #29
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Yes, I did. I wasn't nasty, I went with a white lie rather than tell her she'd eventually end up like her mam.

    Guys if you want to know what the girl you're dating will look like in a few years just look at their mother. Genetics is a bitch.

    Ah fair enough so.

    I've no idea if my mam was considered good looking,though she did attract them right into her 40's so I suppose not too bad.


  • #30
    D1stant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »
    I think the wife thing is almost an unwritten exception though. If you are honest in that situation, you deserve everything coming imo. Women generally don't tend to take complete honesty too well imo.

    I think youre wrong. The wife is the person you need to be most honest with. If you cant be something serious is wrong

    I love honesty. I hate you all


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  • #31
    TheyKnowMyIP
    Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭TheyKnowMyIP


    stupidusername wrote: »
    Ah fair enough so.

    I've no idea if my mam was considered good looking,though she did attract them right into her 40's so I suppose not too bad.

    Genetics only play a part. If you eat ****, you become ****. simple.


  • #32
    stupidusername
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,762 ✭✭✭✭stupidusername


    TheyKnowMyIP wrote: »
    Genetics only play a part. If you eat ****, you become ****. simple.

    Yeah,of course


  • #33
    jokettle
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,419 ✭✭✭✭jokettle


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Guys if you want to know what the girl you're dating will look like in a few years just look at their mother. Genetics is a bitch.


    What if she takes after her father's side of the family? I think turning into a maiden aunt would be much, much worse than turning into my mother....


  • #34
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    jokettle wrote: »
    What if she takes after her father's side of the family? I think turning into a maiden aunt would be much, much worse than turning into my mother....

    There are always exceptions and my hypothesis was quite general but usually you find girl taking after their mams.


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