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Another great decision by Alfa*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    What a stupid decision. Having a car in this segment is detrimental to a manufacturer like Alfa Romeo and it is going to leave a huge hole in the range until the Giulia arrives (whenevr that is).

    The 159 could have been a successful car, it's just Alfa never made a go of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    They must have a mountain of them stored somewhere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    It only got updated earlier this year too. I haven't seen a whole lot of 11 reg models about to be honest, maybe they have enough rwd versions built to satisfy sales until the replacement arrives.

    BTW slightly off topic but is the GT still being sold and is there any sign of a replacement? Current model is now hitting 8 years old and it is based on the old 147/156.

    Edit, according to Wikipedia it finished production last year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    The 159 replacement - reportedly badged Giulia - is to be built on a new platform. It was meant to be here next year allowing a seamless switch from old car to new. However, Fiat's head mentalist Sergio Marchionne reportedly didn't like the styling and his objections have delayed the project so that it can have a facelift. This has totally knackered Alfa's shaky plans to return to the US and royally brassed off dealers over there who had signed up for a whole Fiat Group model range and invested heavily in their premises to reflect this only to find their sole offering for the next three years will be the distinctly niche Fiat 500.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,423 ✭✭✭pburns


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    The 159 replacement - reportedly badged Giulia - is to be built on a new platform. It was meant to be here next year allowing a seamless switch from old car to new. However, Fiat's head mentalist Sergio Marchionne reportedly didn't like the styling and his objections have delayed the project so that it can have a facelift.

    I wonder has it the same roundy headlamps as the Mito & Giulietta? The weakest point of both cars is the new corporate headlamp arrangement - maybe they're rowing back on it for the Giulia?

    The 159 could have been a big success if they hadn't made the platform so heavy. It became even more disadvantageous once economy and CO2 became a selling point. I think because of this carrying on with the 159 would be frankly embarrassing compared to the German opposition.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,309 ✭✭✭VolvoMan


    bazz26 wrote: »
    I haven't seen a whole lot of 11 reg models about to be honest, maybe they have enough rwd versions built to satisfy sales until the replacement arrives.

    I presume you mean FWD?
    johnos1984 wrote: »
    However, Fiat's head mentalist Sergio Marchionne reportedly didn't like the styling and his objections have delayed the project so that it can have a facelift.

    What does an accountant know about car styling?

    Sergio is a whizz at running a car company by all means, but I wouldn't think he'd be a car guy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    What does an accountant know about car styling?
    .
    SFA :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭Eleganza


    http://www.italiaspeed.com/2011/cars/alfa_romeo/08/159/1508.html

    the panda is more vital to FIAT than the 159.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    pburns wrote: »
    I wonder has it the same roundy headlamps as the Mito & Giulietta? The weakest point of both cars is the new corporate headlamp arrangement - maybe they're rowing back on it for the Giulia?

    2012-alfa-romeo-giulia_460x0w.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,096 ✭✭✭johnos1984


    squod wrote: »
    2012-alfa-romeo-giulia_460x0w.jpg

    Is that an official image from Alfa or a not very similar photoshop for Auto Express.....The Sun of the motoring world?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭pajo1981


    This is fairly consistent with the e90's end of production schedule.

    The only difference is BMW have a replacement ready to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,178 ✭✭✭pajo1981


    squod wrote: »
    2012-alfa-romeo-giulia_460x0w.jpg

    Alfa Avensis GT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    johnos1984 wrote: »
    Is that an official image from Alfa or a not very similar photoshop for Auto Express.....The Sun of the motoring world?

    http://www.topspeed.com/cars/alfa-romeo/2013-alfa-romeo-giulia-ar102091.html

    Goolgle image search. It's Auto express's version alright

    alfa-romeo-giulia.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭bazzachazza


    Could you have picked a bigger image !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,863 ✭✭✭RobAMerc


    if it looks like that I'll wait for it thanks - thats gorgeous!
    if it ends up looking like that I'll eat my drivers license


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭Ardennes1944


    careful Rob, jezza had to eat his own hair for a similar statement on the Astra gtc before :D
    i think the 159 is a beautiful car and is looking more and more like my next car too, this is absolutely stunning imo http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2611383


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    VolvoMan wrote: »
    I presume you mean FWD?



    What does an accountant know about car styling?

    Sergio is a whizz at running a car company by all means, but I wouldn't think he'd be a car guy.

    My mistake, actually meant right hand drive.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,445 ✭✭✭Absurdum


    pajo1981 wrote: »
    Alfa Avensis GT.

    exactly what I thought, only with Panamera front lights


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 818 ✭✭✭Cormic


    careful Rob, jezza had to eat his own hair for a similar statement on the Astra gtc before :D
    i think the 159 is a beautiful car and is looking more and more like my next car too, this is absolutely stunning imo http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/2611383

    Wow - Lovely car there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,352 ✭✭✭alias no.9


    Eleganza wrote: »
    http://www.italiaspeed.com/2011/cars/alfa_romeo/08/159/1508.html

    the panda is more vital to FIAT than the 159.

    They're going to build the new Panda in Italy :eek:? Are they constrained by capacity in Poland with the current Panda, 500 and Ford Ka or has the gap in labour costs between Poland and Italy got smaller?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    hopefully the Giulia wont look like that black rendition...nothing original or unique about it

    This delay better be worth it...the timing will just about suit me as I'll probably be thinking of a change around 2014.

    I never fell in love with the 159 after 10yrs of Alfa ownership, however the inside the Ti spec is a nice place to be


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