lads beware

thekevin4540

hi everybody be very carefull with your dogs some serious dog stealing going on in cork at the moment 5 kennells last week and 1 again 2nite they are even taking dogs off young lads out walking 2 attemps 2nite same people as they are driving 06 D vw caddy over 20 dogs in 2 weeks just want everyone to be vigillant as they need to be caught

Spunk84

the dogs are being stolen to order, pretty much they are being shipped up north or to the UK. Ive friends down in cork who are working terrier/lurcher men and they told me the same as you said. Im afraid the main people involved are based in Limerick and are fleecing the surrounding areas.

I had the same thing happen to me 2 nights ago.

Got a call off someone to come look at my springer. Told a time and the town where to meet. got a call off the lad, he had arrived in town. he wanted my address.Told him i would come down and meet and would go off and trial the dog. He was asking me and asking me how to get to the house, said he would find the house no problem as he knew the area Told him not to worry i was behind him;). So got out to meet 2 individuals in a transit van, these 2 individuals were from a well know community here in Ireland. So i took them to the town park, the park has alot of boggy areas around the edges to work.

So after a few questions of what they want the dog to do they told me. They wanted him to run a ditch,retrieve a dummy and work in briars:cool: So put the dog in the ditch, he flushed 2 hen pheasants, threw a dummy onto a big briar bush. Dog went threw the briars like a bull, jumped up threw them and pulled the dummy down and came back to me. So said "what you think lads"?
"Na boss" he not a working dog, ill give you a ton for it:eek:

Thanked them for coming and said my goodbyes:mad: when i was pulling away i could see them further back following me out, then i looked back and they where still there. Took the back roads home, again still following me they were! To Cut a long story short, they followed me for 20mins down the backroads. So i let them follow me threw the town again but from a different direction in. I pulled in to the Garda station, jumped out of my car with my mobile in my hand and pointed at them. The put their foot down and flew straight past me down towards the motorway.

I drove around for another 30mins just to see if they were still hanging around. i took the long way home that night. Goes to show you, could of been my dog gone.

garv123

Spunk84 wrote: »

Took the back roads home, again still following me they were!

there's a main road to your gaff?:eek::eek::rolleyes:
spaniels always get robbed around october. People thinking they can sell the on to people for the pheasant season.

juice1304

thats crazy spunk:mad:, did you ring the gards on your way? what did they have to say if ya did?

Spunk84

garv123 wrote: »

there's a main road to your gaff?:eek::eek::rolleyes:
spaniels always get robbed around october. People thinking they can sell the on to people for the pheasant season.

You would never find my house unless your shown it:D It has no number on the address but the postman knows all who lives here. Theres about 10 houses/farms around. But yea im about a mile or so from the main town but down winding back roads with no signs;)

juice1304 wrote: »

thats crazy spunk:mad:, did you ring the gards on your way? what did they have to say if ya did?

LMAO sorry I haven't seen 1 Gard in about 2 months down here in Kildare, i am told we have 4 gards but have yet to see them. Bloody joke. Our local Gard station doesnt go to the gards here it goes to Lexlip. A good 15-25minutes away:D They only arrive if you have the tea on and sambos ready

customrifle

Was at the horse fair in ballinasloe on sat with herself. We were lookin at the dogs for sale when there was bit of racket further down from us, a lady from I.S.P.C.A was lookin the dogs over and she was saying one of the cocker spaniels was stolen(i dont know did she scan the microchip or what), there were two gardai with her and they just took the fellas details and walked off:rolleyes:

denismac

Hey Spunk, been following your dog for sale thread. Now I see why you were so cautious. Dead right too. Did you get the no. of the van these guys were driving? You should report it anyway so that if there are any more dogs disappearing at least the Guards might have an idea where to start.

cavan shooter

Best thing to do is spend the money and micro chip the dog. I noticed the last time I brought my lad to the vet he checked the chip was working. Now in fairness your relying on someone to check this but at least its a deterent.

terminator2

maybe the mods would consider a sticky of stolen equipment , or gundogs then if it they are offered for sale a lot of people might recognise them as bieng stolen ...... just an idea

deerhunter1

Spunk84 wrote: »

the dogs are being stolen to order, pretty much they are being shipped up north or to the UK. Ive friends down in cork who are working terrier/lurcher men and they told me the same as you said. Im afraid the main people involved are based in Limerick and are fleecing the surrounding areas..

just curious What makes you think there from Limerick? What part City/County

pugw

Jes spunk fair play you were thinking your feet I would have thought nothing of saying call to the house!

lb1981

deerhunter1 wrote: »

just curious What makes you think there from Limerick? What part City/County

sure yis are all knackers down there

tonytoc11

thekevin4540 wrote: »

hi everybody be very carefull with your dogs some serious dog stealing going on in cork at the moment 5 kennells last week and 1 again 2nite they are even taking dogs off young lads out walking 2 attemps 2nite same people as they are driving 06 D vw caddy over 20 dogs in 2 weeks just want everyone to be vigillant as they need to be caught

What part of Cork were they taken from?

fodda

cavan shooter wrote: »

Best thing to do is spend the money and micro chip the dog. I noticed the last time I brought my lad to the vet he checked the chip was working. Now in fairness your relying on someone to check this but at least its a deterent.

Wasn't that a "Green Party Idea" and was not well liked at the time.?:)

thekevin4540

mainly the northside of the city but are doing suberbs aswell they are driving around taking dogs off people there was two young lads going out lamping they pulled up and took 3 lurchers lamp and battery off them people wont even walk there dogs up ther now

doyle61

fodda wrote: »

cavan shooter wrote: »

Best thing to do is spend the money and micro chip the dog. I noticed the last time I brought my lad to the vet he checked the chip was working. Now in fairness your relying on someone to check this but at least its a deterent.

Wasn't that a "Green Party Idea" and was not well liked at the time.?:)

To register a pup with the IKC you've had to microchip pups for years (think it came in 6 years ago) but I've had my dogs chipped before it came in

doctor evil

Perhaps a similar thread in P&AI? Would we be allowed to put a link to this one?

Spunk84

deerhunter1 wrote: »

just curious What makes you think there from Limerick? What part City/County

the biggest doggy nabber in this country resides in Limerick, i know this as i and others who i hunt with have had a few run ins with him. when he lived up in Armagh, he was pretty much burned out of his home because of it and had to flee during the night. i wont say his name nor his associates but if your anyway into working terrier/lurchers you will of heard of him. nothing against Limerick just thats were all of them are residing at the mo:)

cavan shooter wrote: »

Best thing to do is spend the money and micro chip the dog. I noticed the last time I brought my lad to the vet he checked the chip was working. Now in fairness your relying on someone to check this but at least its a deterent.

Dont the dog wardens even carry the microchip wands around now so its easier to offload the dogs to the owners? Anyway if your unemployed i think it costs 15-25 euro to get you dog chipped these days, so its at least a back up plan

thekevin4540 wrote: »

mainly the northside of the city but are doing suberbs aswell they are driving around taking dogs off people there was two young lads going out lamping they pulled up and took 3 lurchers lamp and battery off them people wont even walk there dogs up ther now

terrible :mad: isnt it!

BigBoi83

I heard that if they do get your dog there isnt a whole lot can be done.. There keeping them locked up in vans etc and the guards cant get warrants to search the sites as there not actual addresses or some S**TE like that..

Sucks that people are out there doing this. Its bad enough the government are robbing our pockets now BAXXTARDS are robbing peoples dogs.:mad::mad::mad:

goat2

customrifle wrote: »

Was at the horse fair in ballinasloe on sat with herself. We were lookin at the dogs for sale when there was bit of racket further down from us, a lady from I.S.P.C.A was lookin the dogs over and she was saying one of the cocker spaniels was stolen(i dont know did she scan the microchip or what), there were two gardai with her and they just took the fellas details and walked off:rolleyes:

i was also there, i felt so sorry for little jack russel pups, they were looking for 120 euro each for them, the poor mites were frightened shivering on the young ones laps, no food or drink to be seen, just frightened little pups,

Spunk84

BigBoi83 wrote: »

I heard that if they do get your dog there isnt a whole lot can be done.. There keeping them locked up in vans etc and the guards cant get warrants to search the sites as there not actual addresses or some S**TE like that..

Sucks that people are out there doing this. Its bad enough the government are robbing our pockets now BAXXTARDS are robbing peoples dogs.:mad::mad::mad:

Think about it, How do you prove the dog belongs to you if you dont have a recent pic of the dog or it microchipped:eek: Just think about it?

One shot on kill

first you have to find the dog

hopefully they will try nick a dog and the dog fuping ates them.

that well known community robbed a doberman pup bitch on me I hadnt a clue where the dog was seen aload of boys in vans pulled in so I drove down the middle of them and seen my pup looking out the back window of a van so i stopped and asked for my dog back after a heated debate i took the dob dog 2and half year old out of the back of my van and opened his van my self i didnt hang around i took of like a bat out of hell as i was ****ing on myself but you need to stand up to them they tryed take her off the miss,s a fews weeks before and the dog went for them but i was raging i didnt have the the o/u

pheasntstalker

Spunk84 wrote: »

the biggest doggy nabber in this country resides in Limerick, i know this as i and others who i hunt with have had a few run ins with him. when he lived up in Armagh, he was pretty much burned out of his home because of it and had to flee during the night. i wont say his name nor his associates but if your anyway into working terrier/lurchers you will of heard of him. nothing against Limerick just thats were all of them are residing at the mo:)

;)yes very true same as3$%hole robbed 2 springers from a cousin of mine up there ,just to say he wont be welcome in that beautifull part of the country again;):D

Cass

Lads,

This thread has the potential to be a useful source of info aswell as a much needed warning to others. Please do not derail/ruin the thread with posts suggesting certain methods of deterrence that we all know to be prohibited both on here and out there.

terminator2

i would also suggest that any clubs with web sites post a warning , lads might take heed

deerhunter1

Spunk84 wrote: »

the dogs are being stolen to order, pretty much they are being shipped up north or to the UK. Ive friends down in cork who are working terrier/lurcher men and they told me the same as you said. Im afraid the main people involved are based in Limerick and are fleecing the surrounding areas..

:oI did not mean it to sound like you had something against Limerick, I was just enquiring about whether they were in the City or County, I knew of one or two in the Clare/Limerick and Tipp area bordering Limerick a few years ago, I was just wondering if they were one and the same and still active

tac foley

They'd need the use of a crane to steal any of our three dogs.

Even the 'babies' weigh over 150 pounds, and that's dry.

Newfoundlanders - the dog-world's mobile chicanes.

tac

thekevin4540

really cant believe it they were back in force 2 car loads and a jeep load they were interupted going in to two different yards all between 6.30 and 7 o clock twice this week allready

pheasntstalker

ive just heard the same shower of runts:mad: robbed 2 lurcher pups 2 nites ago out the road from me b!£stards:mad::mad: i know the boy who owns them, he is a settled member,and he is ritely pi$$ed about it it seems these worthless w££anker dont mind stealing from tere own either:mad::mad:

Sika98k

cavan shooter wrote: »

Best thing to do is spend the money and micro chip the dog. I noticed the last time I brought my lad to the vet he checked the chip was working. Now in fairness your relying on someone to check this but at least its a deterent.

Unfortunately it is not impossible to acquire a scanner which the criminals[which is what they are] do.

Then the chip is removed and probably no local anaesthetic.

transit260

Im one of the victims of these tramps.they were in my back walls twice in two hours yesterday.The first time they came the young lad roared at them and they leged it,the second time they brought leads to tie the dogs up so they were confident of makeing good,they even stoped and abused my young lad that went out to them.Unfortunately I was out at these times.Tonight at 8 ish they were on the southside and were disturbed by a hunting man.They were in his garden when he walked out on them.Its a joke,the cops are not able to do anything unless ''THEY CATCH THEM IN THE ACT''.Now what the chances of that?

Spunk84

i tell ya,things in this country are never done unless theres an outcry or something dreadful happens to someone. All i can suggest is Landmines:D for the garden. move the dogs somewhere else and set a trap;) rats always get caught in traps

transit260

well these rats are escaping a very long time,I know all the guys that took a hit dog wise,Wednesday a bloke in my neighbourhood lost all his terriers,its a joke.Im puting up railings to prevent them access to my back garden through another neighbours house,Ive an alarm system on the way and censor lights being fitted tommoro,the stress and worry they cause is unreal,my young lad owns two of the lurchers in the kennells and hes sick with worry in case they take his dogs.

Spunk84

transit260 wrote: »

well these rats are escaping a very long time,I know all the guys that took a hit dog wise,Wednesday a bloke in my neighbourhood lost all his terriers,its a joke.Im puting up railings to prevent them access to my back garden through another neighbours house,Ive an alarm system on the way and censor lights being fitted tommoro,the stress and worry they cause is unreal,my young lad owns two of the lurchers in the kennells and hes sick with worry in case they take his dogs.

should get a camera as well, there next to nothing in Argos and can be setuo online to view the kennels. Also some CCTV in operation on your gates and such. This is not a way to live, bloody moroons....

Tackleberry.

http://www.aldi.ie/ie/html/offers/special_buys3_18661.htm?WT.mc_id=2011-10-14-10-35

Any help? Defo worth a look.

Spunk84

Tackleberry. wrote: »

http://www.aldi.ie/ie/html/offers/special_buys3_18661.htm?WT.mc_id=2011-10-14-10-35

Any help? Defo worth a look.

yep there the yokes

thekevin4540

lads its getting unreal down here now. they are hitting every part of the city now 10 foot bitches taken last night from a local pack its gone so bad it made head lines in the evening echo and thats without last nights takings is it just cork or is it everywhere

BigBoi83

Are they mainly looking for hunting breeds or anything? What are they doing with the dogs after? breeding or selling them?

Spunk84

BigBoi83 wrote: »

Are they mainly looking for hunting breeds or anything? What are they doing with the dogs after? breeding or selling them?

mainly working dogs but id say they would take anything to make a quick buck

R P McMurphy

Spunk84 wrote: »

BigBoi83 wrote: »

Are they mainly looking for hunting breeds or anything? What are they doing with the dogs after? breeding or selling them?

mainly working dogs but id say they would take anything to make a quick buck

This sort of thing would make a person sick. Who is buying the stolen dogs of these people?

Spunk84

R P McMurphy wrote: »

This sort of thing would make a person sick. Who is buying the stolen dogs of these people?

people who want working dogs for cheap:rolleyes:

R P McMurphy

Spunk84 wrote: »

R P McMurphy wrote: »

This sort of thing would make a person sick. Who is buying the stolen dogs of these people?

people who want working dogs for cheap:rolleyes:

Yeah but surely if you bought a dog of these people the chances are they will lift it on you again. Similar to their trade in tools. So you would imagine the market is small enough unless they are only selling to their own

Spunk84

R P McMurphy wrote: »

Yeah but surely if you bought a dog of these people the chances are they will lift it on you again. Similar to their trade in tools. So you would imagine the market is small enough unless they are only selling to their own

sorry to tell you there is enormous amount of money for working dogs here the UK and in Europe for these fellos to make. Know of a dog that was taken in Scotland and sold in Donegal for 1500e only to have the original owners track the dog down and well:rolleyes: get it back:D

kildare.17hmr

this happenin much in kildare lads?

homerhop

yes this time of year Kildare, lads are getting thier springers lifted. Know of a good few who have had theirs taken last year in south kildare and Carlow

kildare.17hmr

would hate to wake up some mornin and find the german shepard had himself a midnight snack....

Or worse find them gone, cage in the house at night i think

BryanL

Hey guy's I hunt with the pack that had 10 hounds robbed. this is the second time we've been robbed in 3 years. The Hounds and their breeding is the lifes work of 2 of the members with hounds bred down from hounds my dad would have hunted with in the 50's. there are generations of work gone into these hounds.
we've 16 hounds left in the "pack" when bitches come into season around Christmas we'll hardly be able to hunt. They are from a Hare hunting pack and will be of little use to guys hunting foxes or beating covers and will most likely be passed along over and over or just culled.
They are being robbed for the demand from guys to buy working adult dogs no questions asked.
Keep and eye out for these and the 25 !!!!!!!!! working terriers that have been robbed. it's sickening.
Bryan

transit260

5 patterdaless taken last night near Clonmel,I believe the owner was left with nothing in his kennells.Sickening carry on.With the precautions Ive taken I hope they will find it very hard to get to my yard again,between the guard dogs,the fencing and the Baikal I hope that should stop them.

Birdnuts

I know a lad near here that has resorted to keeping Ridgebacks with his terrier and lurchers such is the number of dogs he has had stolen in recent years:(. Got them early last year and so far so good. He feeds them on raw meat only and has trained them to be, shall we say "wary" of strangers;)

Birdnuts

transit260 wrote: »

5 patterdaless taken last night near Clonmel,I believe the owner was left with nothing in his kennells.Sickening carry on..

Thats desperate - I think I'd lose it if anyone lifted my lot

Vizzy

Have to say that I would be very,very "upset" if this happened.
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Think I'll stop at that before I say something I might regret.