Cost of a 407 needing new turbo

racso1975

Just wondering what you guys think the cost of a 04 407 needing a new turbo would be there's 130k miles on the clock and it's a 1.6 hdi engine.

Row

racso1975 wrote: »

Just wondering what you guys think the cost of a 04 407 needing a new turbo would be there's 130k miles on the clock and it's a 1.6 hdi engine.

Hi racso1975,
Has your turbo failed...?
If so its not just a matter of fitting a turbo to these engines..you need to follow the info below and follow it step by step..otherwise you'll be after another turbo within a few weeks...:eek:
Hope it helps


EXTREMELY IMPORTANT INFO REGARDING REPLACING TURBO GARRETT GT1544V,PART 9663199280 ON THE DV6 ENGINE USED BY PEUGEOT,CITROEN,FORD,VOLVE,MAZDA,MINI

RE TURBOCHARGERS: 753420-5005S, 762328-5002S & 49173-07506
PSA 1.6HDi TURBOS 2004+

PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE BUYING THIS TURBOCHARGER!.
The PSA 1.6HDi, DV6TED4 engine is a highly sophisticated low emission, high power diesel unit. It is used in many different applications; Citroen, Ford, Mazda, Mini, Peugeot and Volvo.
Due to the engine being clean and powerful, it is designed to operate at high temperatures, which demands the very best lubricants. These lubricants must be maintained in peak condition and PSA have fitted an in-line oil filter to the turbo and an integral oil cooler/oil filter to this engine to ensure this. However there is a drawback to this; reports in the field indicate that if the engine has been operated with the oil level below normal limits, this may potentially cause a high concentration of carbon in the oil. This may then lead to blockage of the in-line filter, oil cooler and main oil filter, which will eventually bring on premature turbo failure. The vacuum pump may also suffer from this same type of contamination.
However, due to its high operating speeds (230,000 revs per minute) the turbo will usually be the first to show signs of damage. This can happen from 30,000 miles onwards if the oil level and correct oil change intervals/procedure have not been adhered to.
Experience to date suggests that the carbon build up in this application is particularly difficult to remove.
To try to eliminate the potential for further turbo failure, the following MUST be undertaken by the garage, in addition to the normal recommended turbo fitting instructions:

• TURBO OIL FEED PIPE & BANJO BOLTS MUST BE CHANGED.
• OIL PUMP SHOULD BE REMOVED AND CHECKED.
• SUMP MUST BE REMOVED AND OIL STRAINER (PICK UP) SHOULD BE CLEANED/REPLACED BEFORE RE-FITTING NEW TURBO TO REMOVE RESIDUAL CARBON/SLUDGE BUILD UP.
• OIL COOLER AND FILTER ASSEMBLY SHOULD BE REMOVED AND CLEANED.
• REMOVE CHARGE AIR COOLER, DRAIN OFF ANY OIL INSIDE AND CLEAN THOROUGHLY.
• CHECK AND CLEAN ALL INLET AND OUTLET HOSES.
• IF OIL HAS LEAKED FROM PREVIOUSLY DAMAGED TURBO OR ENGINE INTO EXHAUST, CHECK EXHAUST SYSTEM FOR CONTAMINATION/BLOCKAGE (CATALYST, DPF etc.)
• REMOVE BRAKE VACUUM PUMP TO CHECK FOR DEBRIS/CARBON AND CLEAN AS NECESSARY.
• FIT NEW OIL FILTER AND OIL.
• CHECK FUEL INJECTOR GASKETS ARE NOT BURNT OR COMPROMISED. REPLACE AS NECESSARY
• OIL FLOW MUST BE CHECKED:
1. FIT TURBO TO ENGINE LEAVING OIL RETURN PIPE OFF
2. INSTALL A LONGER OIL RETURN LINE AND FEED INTO SUITABLE CONTAINER
3. START ENGINE AND IDLE FOR 60 SECONDS, THEN SWITCH OFF ENGINE
4. MEASURE VOLUME OF OIL IN CONTAINER - 60 SECONDS OF IDLE SHOULD PRODUCE AT LEAST 0.3 LITRES OF OIL.
5. REPEAT TEST TWO OR THREE TIMES TO CONFIRM OIL FLOW IS CORRECT
6. DURING THIS TEST, DO NOT ALLOW ENGINE TO RUN BELOW MINIMUM OIL LEVEL!!
7. VEHICLE SHOULD BE DRIVEN 20 to 30 MILES THEN THE OIL/FILTER REPLACED AGAIN.


Firstly put a good oil flush in the engine for about 20-30 mins. Drain engine oil and change filter. Refill oil with a quality fully synthetic oil.
This can help prevent intial turbo failure.
If Turbo has failed: Remove turbo, oil feed pipe to turbo, oil return pipe from turbo, brake vacuum pump, engine sump and oil pickup pipe/filter.
Where turbo pipe bolts to engine block, blow through engine block to clear any debris that might be in there. Fully clean the brake vacuum pump as
you will find that there is swarf collected. Fully clean out the sump along with the intercooler. Discard the sump pickup and fit new pickup and filter.
fit new turbo oil feed and oil return pipes from turbo. Fit new banjo bolts on oil feed pipe, but firsly remove the gauze filter that is in the banjo
bolt that secures pipe to block. fit new turbo, oil filter and good quality fully synthetic engine oil. Use vehicle for approx 500 miles,
then add oil flush as above and fit new oil and filter

racso1975

hey Ron yup the old turbo gave up. I reckon your prob looking about a grand to get it done? But I'm wondering what I'd get for selling as is.

Thanks again Ron for all your assistance

Row

Glad to help out racso1975 but sorry to hear of your misfortune..:-(
Yes when you add in the price of a turbo plus the time/labour to follow the above procedure your looking at around a grand or very close to it...:(

As for a price as it is atm is difficult to know without checking out the engine itself....Tbh the body/gearbox (not dmf) on these are well able for 200k mls plus,but with an engine thats had a failed turbo would indicate poor servicing/
wrong oil been used at some stage.....:(

As for a price as it is atm it depends on what you have..the basic S model or the SE model which has auto lights/wipes..?
Also has your 407 had a new/reconditioned dpf fitted + additive topup..?
Has your 407 had a dmf fitted in the last while..?
Rdgs Ron.

Poulgorm

Pay attention to Row's submission: if all the stuff specified by Row is not carried out carefully and thoroughly, your new turbo charger will last only a very short time.