Another court case sentencing thread

delta_bravo

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/1007/griffinc.html

A convicted rapist has succeeded in having his life sentence for the rape of his partner's daughter reduced at the Court of Criminal Appeal.
The Court of Criminal Appeal had already upheld 41-year-old Christopher Griffin's conviction but deemed the appropriate sentence for repeatedly raping and sexually abusing his partner's daughter was 15 years.
Griffin was a criminal gang leader at the time he abused his partner's daughter.
The abuse began when she was eight years old and continued for another eight years.
She reported the abuse to gardaí and in 2007, Griffin was sentenced to life in prison.
Griffin is a convicted armed robber and gunman. The gang split up following his conviction, which led to an ongoing feud that has so far resulted in five men being shot dead.
Shots were also fired into the victim's home.
The Court of Criminal Appeal ruled today that Griffin showed no remorse, there were no mitigating factors and no rehabilitation but substituted the life sentence and deemed the appropriate sentence for the rape and sexual abuse was 15 years.

I am not try to rabble rouse here and to blast judges but really how can you not when you see a decision like this. The victim is abused for 8 years, her home is shot at during the case. The criminal shows no remorse but he gets a reduction in his sentence. If he has shown no effort to atone for his crimes he should not be afforded a chance of release for a very long time. The victim must be devastated.

stephen_k

Where's a couple of murderers with a penchant for disemboweling when you need them....

Chuck Stone

Who are the fuckwits feuding on this degenerate's behalf?

minidazzler

And this is why I think we should A) Have the death penalty and it should be pretty easy to carry it out for long term criminals with nothing to give to society. Well, that or exile.

Captain Darling

minidazzler wrote: »

And this is why I think we should A) Have the death penalty and it should be pretty easy to carry it out for long term criminals with nothing to give to society. Well, that or exile.

Where will we exile them to? Leitrim?

arybvtcw0eolkf

Chuck Stone wrote: »

Who are the fuckwits feuding on this degenerate's behalf?

You want people to post up names here?.

minidazzler

Captain Darling wrote: »

Where will we exile them to? Leitrim?

I dunno, some **** Island somewhere in the South Pacific.

Chuck Stone

Augustus Dazzling Desert wrote: »

You want people to post up names here?.

It was more of a rhetorical question than a request for specific names.

I just can't figure why anyone would feel any sort of loyalty to this disgusting rapist.

mikemac

Well that's the thing about life sentences OP

You can be eligible for parole after twelve years

Or you may never get out, there are two British people who were sentenced over thirty years ago for attacking young women when they were in Ireland.

The Minister takes advice from the parole board but the decision is made by the Minister.

So then that's a political angle.
Christopher Griffen had strong connections with the IRA in Dublin.
A government minister may let that influence their decision when they come up for parole.

Does someone with connections to the IRA get different treatment to a common criminal even if they did the same crime, in this case rape

Putting the final decision in the hands of politicians is dangerous, better the courts do it

It went to the Appeal court anyway, now it's a fixed term sentance.

Or to end my long post, you could make life to mean life, some countries do that too

ilovelamp2000

I'm not that bothered by this.

It just means he'll be out earlier and dead quicker

Raging_Ninja

Captain Darling wrote: »

Where will we exile them to? Leitrim?

Take him to Detroit.

padd b1975

delta_bravo wrote: »

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I am not try to rabble rouse here and to blast judges but really how can you not when you see a decision like this. The victim is abused for 8 years, her home is shot at during the case. The criminal shows no remorse but he gets a reduction in his sentence. If he has shown no effort to atone for his crimes he should not be afforded a chance of release for a very long time. The victim must be devastated.

Paul Carney made a serious error here from what I have heard. Apparently he did not look at the facts of the rape case and the rape case alone when deciding sentence.
Having said that the guy still has a 15 year sentence which is probably above the norm for the crime committed.

ilovelamp2000

padd b1975 wrote: »

Paul Carney made a serious error here from what I have heard. Apparently he did not look at the facts of the rape case and the rape case alone when deciding sentence.
Having said that the guy still has a 15 year sentence which is probably above the norm for the crime committed.

What a grave injustice Paul Carney did to poor Griffin eh ?

DEFTLEFTHAND

You can knock a quarter off that 15 years straight away with automatic remission. Shameful that this thug will be prowling the streets again so soon.

ilovelamp2000

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You can knock a quarter off that 15 years straight away with automatic remission. Shameful that this thug will be prowling the streets again so soon.

And another bit for temporary release too

cosmicfart

I think 10 minutes, nevermind 15 years in prison for a rapist will see him reap what he sowed tenfold, as it were. only problem is when he gets out

J. Marston

We need a real-life Dexter for these type of people when they get out.

Ditch

Captain Darling wrote: »

Where will we exile them to? Leitrim?

Stop that! :mad:

Unique User Name

Not to trivialise this but the dude is called Chris Griffin

Irishgalclare

Not to trivialise this but the dude is called Chris Griffin

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Giselle

minidazzler wrote: »

And this is why I think we should A) Have the death penalty and it should be pretty easy to carry it out for long term criminals with nothing to give to society. Well, that or exile.

a) Thats all tea and biscuits until someone is wrongfully convicted.
b) Are you willing to kill people found guilty on the States behalf since thats pretty easy?

How would you feel if it came to light that you killed an innocent person in your capacity as executioner?

carveone

J. Marston wrote: »

We need a real-life Dexter for when these type of people get out.

Those guys are in prison. Stick him in general population, that'll save the taxpayer a couple of quid.

There was another thread here about burglers who found child porn in a house they robbed. They turned themselves in in order to get that guy. Gives you an idea how low on the ladder these scum are...

minidazzler

Giselle wrote: »

a) Thats all tea and biscuits until someone is wrongfully convicted.
b) Are you willing to kill people found guilty on the States behalf since thats pretty easy?

How would you feel if it came to light that you killed an innocent person in your capacity as executioner?

Chances of wrongful conviction are rather low.
If the job paid pretty well I'd do it I guess.
As an executioner? Probably not too bad really, to the best of my knowledge they would have been guilty of a crime warranting death. That said, I have yet to kill an innocent person.

charlemont

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

You can knock a quarter off that 15 years straight away with automatic remission. Shameful that this thug will be prowling the streets again so soon.

True, Unfortunately its all about money, When Griffen is out and things heat up again the only ones to benefit will be the solicitors, People get worse sentences for dealing drugs here than sexual abuse.

Giselle

minidazzler wrote: »

Chances of wrongful conviction are rather low.

I'd be okay with the low odds too, unless I was the one wrongfully executed.




''At least 39 executions are claimed to have been carried out in the U.S. in the face of evidence of innocence or serious doubt about guilt.''

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrongful_execution

delta_bravo

I'm not advocating the end of this mans life. He should be allowed live in a small cell for the rest of his days in arbor hill surrounded by people like him

Unique User Name

Irishgalclare wrote: »

Not to trivialise this but the dude is called Chris Griffin

????????

FYI