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Multiroom installed, Saorview uninstalled!

  • 06-10-2011 03:13PM
    #1
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,175 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I had a fta box with saorview set up but I just got the multiroom from sky, and the installer disconnected the cables that were installed for saorview.

    Does anyone know how to connect this back up so I can get the saorview channels back on my TV?

    Cheers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,262 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    You'll have to describe what cables, wallplate, amp, aerial dish etc. etc. you have and how the existing setup is cabled

    A picture or 2 of the cabling would be handy.

    Were you using a combi DTT/FTA sat receiver previously?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,099 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    I am betting a lazy Sky installer used the cable going to the bedroom which was carrying Saorview and joined the satellite feed to it to carry the multi room instead. Could be wrong but it wouldn't be the first time it has happened.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 flynmo


    The best thing to do here is to ring the installer and tell him that your soarview has stopped working, he probably joined the sky cable in the attic to the saorview cable, instead of running a new one for sky


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,175 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Moon


    When I got the initial install, I had the installer install the cables so I had the option for multiroom, so there's two cables already there, and there was a little box thing that was attached to one of them that the saorview was connected to.

    I'll post up a pic when I get home later of the box.

    I miss my RTE 2 HD, the quality on sky is terrible!!


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,175 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Moon


    The Cush wrote: »
    You'll have to describe what cables, wallplate, amp, aerial dish etc. etc. you have and how the existing setup is cabled

    A picture or 2 of the cabling would be handy.

    Were you using a combi DTT/FTA sat receiver previously?

    Yes, had a ferguson ariva hooked up, now I just want the saorview to go straight to the tv if this is possible, while not affecting the sky box.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 flynmo


    Hmm sky + needs two cables to record properly, if one cable is used then you can only watch the program you want to record and by switching the channel will cause you to get a no satellite signal error,

    The box you speak of is that a coaxial box that the soarview box plugs into to get the signal, these boxes sometimes tend to give trouble and is best to bypass the box with F connector and bullet for best signal results


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,175 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Moon


    Box is coaxial, I'm confused now, hope it's possible to do this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 flynmo


    Here is a website where you will see pictures of the F connectors and FCOUPLER you need

    http://shop.rabtron.co.za/catalog/connectors-c-126_497.html

    u need 2 F Connectors and 1 FCOUPLER,

    when making these connections off you need to make sure that none of the copper strands !!DONT!! touch off the inner copper cable (stinger) as this will cause a short.

    Here is a image of what you are trying to achieve

    http://www.naval.com/help/f-con.htm


    So open up the coxial box and make off the cable inside so that you can put an F-Connector on it, followed by the FCOUPLER.
    Then the cable that is coming from the soarview box you need to make 1 end off for an F-Connector also,
    then when its made off, join it to the FCOUPLER.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    flynmo wrote: »
    The box you speak of is that a coaxial box that the soarview box plugs into to get the signal, these boxes sometimes tend to give trouble and is best to bypass the box with F connector and bullet for best signal results

    What are you talking about? What's a 'coaxial box'?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,175 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Moon


    6221202110_069626cc53_m.jpg

    This is what I have...


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    That's a satellite/terrestrial diplexer (as expected). It combines the satellite & terrestrial signals on to one cable & a 2nd can be used at the other end to seperate them again (can be built into a wallplate).

    As mentioned earlier in the thread (& if you haven't already sorted things), you'll have to tell us exactly what is connected to what.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,262 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Mr Moon some questions

    1. You have an aerial and satellite dish. 1 cable from the aerial. How many cables from the satellite dish?

    2. Where do the cables from the aerial and dish go, attic/living room/other location?

    3. Do you have cables to other rooms? If so, how many cables per room? Where do the cables begin attic/living room/other location?

    4. Where was the sat/terrestrial diplexer (above pic) located? Where was the combi receiver located?

    5. Where do you require Saorview living room/other rooms?

    6. How many Sky receivers? Are any of them Sky+ requiring 2 feeds from the dish?


    Difficult to answer your specific questions without knowing your cabling setup.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,175 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Moon


    The Cush wrote: »
    Mr Moon some questions

    1. You have an aerial and satellite dish. 1 cable from the aerial. How many cables from the satellite dish?

    2. Where do the cables from the aerial and dish go, attic/living room/other location?

    3. Do you have cables to other rooms? If so, how many cables per room? Where do the cables begin attic/living room/other location?

    4. Where was the sat/terrestrial diplexer (above pic) located? Where was the combi receiver located?

    5. Where do you require Saorview living room/other rooms?

    6. How many Sky receivers? Are any of them Sky+ requiring 2 feeds from the dish?


    Difficult to answer your specific questions without knowing your cabling setup.

    1. Have an octo spreading 8 cables throughout the house, 2 to the room in question, all the others are used.

    2. There is some thing in the attic to do with the saorview all them go to there and are split up as far as I know.

    3. 3 rooms have 3 cables, 2 rooms have 1 cable, saorview in all 5 rooms.

    4. The yoke pictured was connected to one of the two cables that came into the room in question and feeded into the combi box.

    5. As said above saorview is in all rooms required except it's gone from this room since the sky multiroom was installed.

    6. 2 sky + boxes one in this room and one in another room.

    Hope this is of use to you and thanks for the help :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭niallb


    Did the installer tell you he was going to have to break your existing system to install Sky?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,285 ✭✭✭Peter Rhea


    Mr Moon wrote: »
    1. Have an octo spreading 8 cables throughout the house, 2 to the room in question, all the others are used.

    Octo lnb on the dish, presumably?
    2. There is some thing in the attic to do with the saorview all them go to there and are split up as far as I know.

    3. 3 rooms have 3 cables, 2 rooms have 1 cable, saorview in all 5 rooms.
    You mean 3 rooms have 2 cables or do some have an extra for terrestrial or return feeds?
    6. 2 sky + boxes one in this room and one in another room.
    So this other room has 2 feeds to the Skybox & still has Saorview available or is there 1 cable for each?
    4. The yoke pictured was connected to one of the two cables that came into the room in question and feeded into the combi box.
    So, was Sky installer in your attic or would the combiner at the other end still be connected? If it's still there, you can simply reinstate the one at the tv end (connected to the cable with the combined feed, of course) & connect the sat. & terr. outputs as required.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 5,175 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr Moon


    Peter Rhea wrote: »
    Octo lnb on the dish, presumably?

    You mean 3 rooms have 2 cables or do some have an extra for terrestrial or return feeds?

    So this other room has 2 feeds to the Skybox & still has Saorview available or is there 1 cable for each?

    So, was Sky installer in your attic or would the combiner at the other end still be connected? If it's still there, you can simply reinstate the one at the tv end (connected to the cable with the combined feed, of course) & connect the sat. & terr. outputs as required.

    Octo lnb on dish - Correct

    3 rooms 2 cables each - correct

    sorry, there isn't actually saorview in the other room with the sky

    Sky didn't go near the attic, everything was there for him, in and out as fast as possible (I wasn't there for the install)

    He basically took the cable that was going into that pic I posted and put it into the sky box with the second cable that was there, I was hoping I could attach the box to the cable and split it one to the tv for saorview and another to the sky box??

    I'm probably wrong and this isn't possible also sorry for the poor information, it was late last night lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,262 ✭✭✭✭The Cush


    Mr Moon wrote: »
    2. There is some thing in the attic to do with the saorview all them go to there and are split up as far as I know.

    Can you post a pic of the something in the attic, splitter/diplexer/multiswitch at a guess that combines the satellite and terrestrial signal down the cable to be split again at the TV end with the diplexer in your pic.

    Could also be a terrestrial distribution amp for all rooms with a separate diplexer elsewhere to combine the two signals down one cable.
    Mr Moon wrote: »
    He basically took the cable that was going into that pic I posted and put it into the sky box with the second cable that was there, I was hoping I could attach the box to the cable and split it one to the tv for saorview and another to the sky box??

    I'm probably wrong and this isn't possible also sorry for the poor information, it was late last night lol

    You should be able to reattach the diplexer to the cable and run one cable to the TV and another to the Sky receiver if he did nothing else in the attic or at the dish/aerial.


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