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  • 06-10-2011 9:25am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19


    This is my first time posting on this forum and I'm looking for advice about sound moderators

    I'm thinking about buying a sound moderator to fit a steyr .380 rifle. The only one i know anything about is the T8. Would anybody have any views on the T8 or other types of moderators that they would care to share.

    Thank you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    sika1 wrote: »
    This is my first time posting on this forum and I'm looking for advice about sound moderators

    I'm thinking about buying a sound moderator to fit a steyr .380 rifle. The only one i know anything about is the T8. Would anybody have any views on the T8 or other types of moderators that they would care to share.

    Thank you

    Welcome to the forum ;)

    Do you mean a .308??

    It really depend on what you are looking for. Lightweight, able to take it apart for cleaning, budget?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    Presume you mean .308 :)

    The only mod I've heard on a .308 is the ASE S5 (The chunky silver one). It was very good at moderating the rifle.

    I've got a T8 on my own .223. Before I got it I heard all of the horror stories regarding rusting etc. I don't see any rust on mine so far. After coming home I heat up the mod (don't melt the bushing!) with a fan heater and spray WD40 inside. The heating does two things, helps dry out any moisture and the WD40 moves a lot better inside the mod on warm metal. The WD40 isn't a protective oil, it's for displacing water. Moisture inside that mod left with burnt powder will kill it. I also spray Rem Oil on the outside and store the mod in an oily stock - always off the rifle. Doing good so far and I see no reason why a .308 cal T8 wouldn't do a good job moderating a .308.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    I have a roedale and find it great, very light as well


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    Here is a good link to a thread here.

    Sound Advice

    Also is it for a stalking rifle?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    sika1 wrote: »
    This is my first time posting on this forum and I'm looking for advice about sound moderators

    I'm thinking about buying a sound moderator to fit a steyr .380 rifle. The only one i know anything about is the T8. Would anybody have any views on the T8 or other types of moderators that they would care to share.

    Thank you

    The T8 although very good at noise reduction can be a nightmare to maintain.
    They are very prone to rust and also are very noisy when brushing against brambles and branches going through heavy cover.

    I had one and got rid of it.
    They are the cheapest though if money is an issue.
    I assume you want it for deer stalking as none of the Target shooters use Mods on their .308's

    After looking at a few moderators the next Moderator I will buy is a Roedale.
    Very light and very well made, and cheaper than the Stainless ASE S5 I currently have on my .308.

    The T8 has a very wide profile and can be cumbersome when you want to rest rifle on gate post etc to take a shot


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 192 ✭✭Comeraghshooter


    sika1 wrote: »
    This is my first time posting on this forum and I'm looking for advice about sound moderators

    I'm thinking about buying a sound moderator to fit a steyr .380 rifle. The only one i know anything about is the T8. Would anybody have any views on the T8 or other types of moderators that they would care to share.

    Thank you

    Don't have any experience with the T8 so i wont comment on it but if i was in your position and going to buy a Mod id buy a Roedale, they are very light and you can strip them down & clean them.

    I currently have an ASE Jet-z Mod, its a great Mod & well built but its heavy & it cant be striped down for cleaning.

    CS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 sika1


    dev110 wrote: »
    Welcome to the forum ;)

    Do you mean a .308??

    It really depend on what you are looking for. Lightweight, able to take it apart for cleaning, budget?

    I was careful typing but the numbers got away on me. Yes it should read a .308.

    The rifle will be used for stalking. I already have a hearing problem relating to unprotected firearm use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 sika1


    dev110 wrote: »
    Here is a good link to a thread here.

    Sound Advice

    Also is it for a stalking rifle?

    Thanks for the link. Yes it is a stalking rifle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 sika1


    johngalway wrote: »
    Presume you mean .308 :)

    The only mod I've heard on a .308 is the ASE S5 (The chunky silver one). It was very good at moderating the rifle.

    I've got a T8 on my own .223. Before I got it I heard all of the horror stories regarding rusting etc. I don't see any rust on mine so far. After coming home I heat up the mod (don't melt the bushing!) with a fan heater and spray WD40 inside. The heating does two things, helps dry out any moisture and the WD40 moves a lot better inside the mod on warm metal. The WD40 isn't a protective oil, it's for displacing water. Moisture inside that mod left with burnt powder will kill it. I also spray Rem Oil on the outside and store the mod in an oily stock - always off the rifle. Doing good so far and I see no reason why a .308 cal T8 wouldn't do a good job moderating a .308.

    Thanks for that


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,147 ✭✭✭dev110


    sika1 wrote: »
    I was careful typing but the numbers got away on me. Yes it should read a .308.

    The rifle will be used for stalking. I already have a hearing problem relating to unprotected firearm use.

    I would have to say go with a roedale moderator because as some lads have said it is lightweight, you are able to take it apart for cleaning.

    I'm not sure on the pricing of them though.

    lb1981 would be the man to talk to about them as he is the only one that post that has one


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 sika1


    lb1981 wrote: »
    I have a roedale and find it great, very light as well

    They seem to be a popular make. I'll have to look in to them. Thank you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 376 ✭✭sikastag


    T8 - Rust prone, cumbersome, ugly.

    ASE Utra S5 - Slightly heavy - I dont find it affects my shooting at all, extremely easy to maintain despite being a "one-piece" system.

    ASE Utra SL5 - As the above only smaller, lighter - really not heavy.

    Have used all three - T8 gone as I wasnt a fan. Still have both ASE's. The little SL5 is great. Go with ASE SL5 if you can, bit pricey but worth every penny IMO. you get what you pay for.

    Sika


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 sika1


    Don't have any experience with the T8 so i wont comment on it but if i was in your position and going to buy a Mod id buy a Roedale, they are very light and you can strip them down & clean them.

    I currently have an ASE Jet-z Mod, its a great Mod & well built but its heavy & it cant be striped down for cleaning.

    CS

    Thank you for your advice. the roedale would seem to be the way to go


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 sika1


    sikastag wrote: »
    T8 - Rust prone, cumbersome, ugly.

    ASE Utra S5 - Slightly heavy - I dont find it affects my shooting at all, extremely easy to maintain despite being a "one-piece" system.

    ASE Utra SL5 - As the above only smaller, lighter - really not heavy.

    Have used all three - T8 gone as I wasnt a fan. Still have both ASE's. The little SL5 is great. Go with ASE SL5 if you can, bit pricey but worth every penny IMO. you get what you pay for.

    Sika

    For sure but you do get what you pay for


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Edi Graef PSE Composites is an agent for them in Ireland.
    I tried all the different models on my Rifle when I was down in Kinsale getting a PSE stock on my .308.

    They are seriously light and a very low profile, very easy take apart and strip down
    Also can be shortened lengthened as part of their design, the only reasn I did not buy one that day was a lack of funds after buying a custom stock for my stalking rifle off him :(

    http://www.pse-composites.com/contact-information.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭lb1981


    Edi Graef PSE Composites is an agent for them in Ireland.
    I tried all the different models on my Rifle when I was down in Kinsale getting a PSE stock on my .308.

    They are seriously light and a very low profile, very easy take apart and strip down
    Also can be shortened lengthened as part of their design, the only reasn I did not buy one that day was a lack of funds after buying a custom stock for my stalking rifle off him :(

    http://www.pse-composites.com/contact-information.html
    Just bet me to it, i bought mine from Edi , pure gent to deal with.
    He posts on here as ejg .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    lb1981 wrote: »
    Just bet me to it, i bought mine from Edi , pure gent to deal with.
    He posts on here as ejg .

    +1 on that, a gentle Giant!

    If I get the funds I will deffo invest in one, wanted one for ages now, it's over a year since I was down in Edi's place.

    Beautiful place Kinsale, and savage food in the pub across the road from his shop;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭virminhunter


    I bought a stainless steel roedale mod from pse composites, its a great mod, I also got a new rear piece in alluminium recently so I can fit it to my new stalking rifle, the difference in weight between the two is unbelievable! a couple of aluminium baffles are definately on my shopping list whenever I have the funds for them.:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭pejay


    I will be picking up my t3 tac .223 first week in january, was thinking of a wildcat mod what do yee would be best model.

    Many thanks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    sika1 wrote: »
    This is my first time posting on this forum and I'm looking for advice about sound moderators

    I'm thinking about buying a sound moderator to fit a steyr .380 rifle. The only one i know anything about is the T8. Would anybody have any views on the T8 or other types of moderators that they would care to share.

    Thank you

    I have a steyr pro hunter in 308 I have used a T8 for the past three years with no problems, I have a neoprene sleeve on it to stop the dinging noise if you touch it off anything. Perfect


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    I have a steyr pro hunter in 308 I have used a T8 for the past three years with no problems, I have a neoprene sleeve on it to stop the dinging noise if you touch it off anything. Perfect

    Take a look under the cover regularly. Know a fella down in the banner who didn't, until the neoprene kinda exploded, the metal had bubbled under the cover and the first he knew about it was when a pinhole let gasses out through the cover.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,399 ✭✭✭dwighet


    Do what I do....Put your fingers in your ears before you shoot....
    :cool::cool::cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    johngalway wrote: »
    Take a look under the cover regularly. Know a fella down in the banner who didn't, until the neoprene kinda exploded, the metal had bubbled under the cover and the first he knew about it was when a pinhole let gasses out through the cover.

    Cheers for that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭arrowloopboy


    This is basic advice,dont buy anything too heavy,mate had a t8 on his ,the barrel hits the fore end on the steyrs with a heavy mod and drives shots every where,if it were me and i had a steyr,i'd put a roedale or an a-tec on it.
    Which ever you choose ,make sure it dosn't drag the barrel onto the fore end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,728 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    This is basic advice,dont buy anything too heavy,mate had a t8 on his ,the barrel hits the fore end on the steyrs with a heavy mod and drives shots every where,if it were me and i had a steyr,i'd put a roedale or an a-tec on it.
    Which ever you choose ,make sure it dosn't drag the barrel onto the fore end.

    :eek:Thanks for that, I have so far never had a problem, I can honestly say thumb hole groups at 100yds. had been thinking of selling it for to purchase a roedale but never got round to it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,271 ✭✭✭✭johngalway


    dwighet wrote: »
    Do what I do....Put your fingers in your ears before you shoot....
    :cool::cool::cool:

    They musta used an awful lotta lead based paint down under, ya hid the extra arm well mind :D


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