Joe Cole

RT2010

Just wondering if there are any Ligue 1 followers out there who know how Joe Cole is getting on with Lille?

Don't follow it too closely myself.

Was always interested in seeing how some more English players would get on in some of the European leagues as very few tend to leave England.

dreamers75

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3274/ligue-1/2011/09/25/2682117/watch-joe-coles-stunning-first-goal-for-lille-since-joining


scored that as his 1st goal.

The_Kew_Tour

He still better then Messi too

greendom

This guy does an excellent job at following all English players who make their living abroad

http://lesrosbifs.net/

amiable

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

He still better then Messi too

You think he's better than Messi?

Best player in the world bar none.

tommyhaas

amiable wrote: »

You think he's better than Messi?

Its probably a reference to Steven Gerrard's comments last year

amiable

tommyhaas wrote: »

Its probably a reference to Steven Gerrard's comments last year

I knew that but Gerrard didn't say he was better than Messi AFAIK.

Granted Gerrard's comments were still ridiculous

RT2010

Great first goal he got. Thought Liverpool had pulled a stroke getting him last year on a free but just didnt kick on through injury and poor form.

Would like to see a few more English players (none of Uniteds!!) go and test themselves abroad and see how they would get on.

Can only remember McManaman and Beckham off the top of my head as high profle players who tried it in the last 10-15 years, both done fairly decent.

mike65

Jonathan Woodgate (whatadebut!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIzSC2PzgBQ

onemorechance

He's no Messi but he is an excellent footballer, just didn't show it at Liverpool.

Gerrard said he can do everything Messi can do, maybe even better! Like with a golf-ball! The papers headlined it as:

Joe Cole is better than Lionel Messi, claims Liverpool's Steven Gerrard

Steven Gerrard believes Liverpool are set for a bright new era under Roy Hodgson after the "horror" of last season – and claims that the new signing Joe Cole is better than Barcelona's Lionel Messi.

Gerrard, in an interview with Match of the Day magazine, said the new manager has already given Liverpool a lift after a disappointing seventh-place finish last season.

"It's a great club and after speaking with Roy Hodgson I'm really pleased to see his plans for the club. It's a new era now – we must forget about the horror of what happened last season and get this club back to where it belongs, which is the Champions League at the very least."

Gerrard said Cole, signed in July on a Bosman from Chelsea, has the ability to drive the team forward.

"[Lionel] Messi can do some amazing things, but anything he can do Joe can do as well, if not better. He used to shock us in training by doing footy tricks with a golf ball that most players can't even do with a football. I really fancy Joe for the [player of the year] award this season."

The_Kew_Tour

amiable wrote: »

You think he's better than Messi?

lol

No bit of tongue in cheek

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/10/joe-cole-messi-gerrard-liverpool

amiable

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

lol

No bit of tongue in cheek

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/aug/10/joe-cole-messi-gerrard-liverpool

Likewise:D. I knew what you meant

GLaDOS

RT2010 wrote: »

Can only remember McManaman and Beckham off the top of my head as high profle players who tried it in the last 10-15 years, both done fairly decent.

Michael Owen as well though much less successful

The_Kew_Tour

amiable wrote: »

Likewise:D. I knew what you meant

i taught you did but just had be sure..

as a United fan I actually taught Cole was goos signing for Liverpool at time..

mike65

Ian Rush wasn't impressed.

I couldn't settle in Italy - it was like living in a foreign country

pickarooney

Chris Waddle!
Sorry, was watching a bit of Chanel 9 Neus earlier

gustavo

greendom wrote: »

This guy does an excellent job at following all English players who make their living abroad

http://lesrosbifs.net/

Nice little piece on Shams English players half way down there

Dozen Wicked Words

Tony Cascarino was relatively successful in France, similar skill level to Cole.

Dearg81

dooferoaks wrote: »

Tony Cascarino was relatively successful in France, similar skill level to Cole.

Indeed he was, he scored a lot of goals for Nancy and Marseille. I remember tuning into eurogoals on eurosport to watch his goal highlights. It was funny cos the commentator Archie McPherson used to commentate as if the game was live even though it was obvious he knew a goal was coming up:)

RT2010

Yeah forgot about Owen and Woodgate. Both could have prospered but for Owen not being given a proper chance with the Galacticos and Woodgates injury jinx.

Was just referring to English players, big Cas was as Irish as they come! Did well in France in fairness though.

Oat23

There's a Ligue 1 highlight show on TV5 (799 on Sky) Mondays at 8pm, if anyone is interested. Only found out about it myself a few weeks ago. French language.

greendom

Oatesy23 wrote: »

There's a Ligue 1 highlight show on TV5 (799 on Sky) Mondays at 8pm, if anyone is interested. Only found out about it myself a few weeks ago. French language.

Is that the only sports show on that channel ?

killwill

RT2010 wrote: »

Yeah forgot about Owen and Woodgate. Both could have prospered but for Owen not being given a proper chance with the Galacticos and Woodgates injury jinx.

Was just referring to English players, big Cas was as Irish as they come! Did well in France in fairness though.

Cascarino as irish as they come? He had no irish in him at all!

Davidth88

Good luck to Joe .... I think he is a quality player , thick as two short planks , but a quality player.

As for Englishmen abroad


Kevin Keegan did a pretty good job , so did Gazza.......

Luis21

Joe looks good because he is playing in an incredibly ****e league.

Guy:Incognito

Luis21 wrote: »

Joe looks good because he is playing in an incredibly ****e league.

That or hes quite a good player that had a bad stint at Liverpool.

gustavo

Luis21 wrote: »

Joe looks good because he is playing in an incredibly ****e league.

The French League is ranked as 5th best in Europe. God help us if the 5th best is "incredibly ****e"

PARlance

RT2010 wrote: »

Yeah forgot about Owen and Woodgate. Both could have prospered but for Owen not being given a proper chance with the Galacticos and Woodgates injury jinx.

Was just referring to English players, big Cas was as Irish as they come! Did well in France in fairness though.

Why not Irish players?
Used to follow Padraig Amond on the tweet machine when he was in Portugal...it's just not the same when he's on loan at Accrington Stanley Him and Barry Maguire over there in Holland

I think I've answered my initial question myself

Hank_Jones

Liam Brady won 2 Serie A titles while with Juventus.

Lineker also did well enough at Barcelona while he was there.

Nuri Sahin

Luis21 wrote: »

Joe looks good because he is playing in an incredibly ****e league.

What a massively ignorant comment to make. A big pat on the back for you.

Bodhisopha

gustavo wrote: »

The French League is ranked as 5th best in Europe. God help us if the 5th best is "incredibly ****e"

It's been a great supplier to the premier league over the years.

PARlance

Sparky too at Barca

Davidth88

ajcurry123 wrote: »

Sparky too at Barca

Welsh.......

PARlance

Davidth88 wrote: »

Welsh.......

Really? Thanks :rolleyes:

I asked earlier why not open it up to Irish, no reponse to that one, I went wild with Sparky... I do apologise

Brady is Irish btw, you missed that one in an earlier post

Davidth88

ajcurry123 wrote: »

Really? Thanks :rolleyes:

I asked earlier why not open it up to Irish, no reponse to that one, I went wild with Sparky... I do apologise

Brady is Irish btw, you missed that one in an earlier post

Accept my apologies , rude post ..........

Hannibal

mike65 wrote: »

Ian Rush wasn't impressed.

Rushy said last year he never made that comment, it was a team mate at Liverpool having a joke.

I remember Vinny Samways having relative success in Spain, someone mentioned Owen not being given a proper chance at Madrid... might have had something to do with Ronaldo. Not many strikers in football history would displace Ronaldo from a team

greendom

Steve Archibald had a good stint in Barcelona

And Trevor Steven did well alongside Waddle in Marseille

PARlance

There was some lad at Ferenbache there a few years back, not sure of his name!
Didn't set the world alight

greendom

Hank_Jones wrote: »

Liam Brady won 2 Serie A titles while with Juventus.

Lineker also did well enough at Barcelona while he was there.

Lineker did brilliantly until he had some sort of falling out with Cruyff, who proceeded to play him on the wing for the rest of his time there.

As a result Lineker wrote a "fictional" book (in Spanish) -

Donde esta el delantero centro ?

Where's the centre forward ?

Nuri Sahin

ajcurry123 wrote: »

There was some lad at Ferenbache there a few years back, not sure of his name!
Didn't set the world alight

Kazim Richards

pickarooney

Darius Vassel?

Reganio 2

No mention of the most successful of all the Irish exports? Juventus's most promising newcomer, despite only ever playing 1 game as a sub. Also Times Magazine's man of the CENTURY! But was taken out of the running due to political reasons.

I give to you Bray's own.... Ronnie O'Brien.

Davidth88

Ok the thread has moved on a bit now

I give you Jimmy Greaves ........ did a stirling job at Milan 12 games 9 goals .....


Just imagine playing away like that in 1961 !!

greendom

"2 bob" Clive Allen scored 21 goals in 30 games for Bordeaux

Hannibal

Dominic Foley has a decent enough record in Belgium the last few years, he played in Portugal aswell..

Alan Mahon had a spell in Portugal early in his career aswell.

PARlance

Good (if a bit sad) game to play with mate, take in turns to name british or irish player that played in European league football, passed a few mins anyway

Don't think these have been mentioned yet,

Woodgate
McManaman
Ince
Keegan
Collins
Platt
Gazza
Boothroyd
Lambert
Archibald

greendom

ajcurry123 wrote: »

Good (if a bit sad) game to play with mate, take in turns to name british or irish player that played in European league football, passed a few mins anyway

Don't think these have been mentioned yet,

Woodgate
McManaman
Ince
Keegan
Collins
Platt
Gazza
Boothroyd
Lambert
Archibald

Your first and last names certainly have

Tyrone Mears is another

Dante

Matt Darbyshire at Olympiacos is another one that springs to mind. According to Wikipedia he got 6 goals in under 20 appearances as well, with two of them coming in the Greek cup final having only come on as a substitute at half time.

K-9

Platt did a decent job in Italy at different clubs, Wilkins was at Milan and Souness played for a time in Italy as well.

Keegan would be well known in Germany but Michael Robinson, ex Liverpool played in Spain in the 80's.

dreamers75

Liam Buckley had a decent career abroad.