New MP3 player recommendations

Cyclonius

My Creative Zen Vision M seems to be on the way our unfortunately. I'd be very interested in hearing people's recommendations for a replacement portable media player. I'd be looking for a media player with a capacity of over 30GB, that preferably doesn't cost an arm and a leg; I'd be open to hard drive based players, and don't particularly care about having a touchscreen. The iPod Classic would be one player that matches this description, but I'm interested in looking at what the alternatives are.

In regards to the iPod Classic, do you have to manage it through iTunes, or is it possible to just drag and drop from Windows?

cheapest 40gb is sansa clip + or sansa zip 8gb with 32gb micro sd card. very small with handy clip that's very useful for clipping onto jacket / shirt etc. great for jogging / walking. would get the device and memory card for 100 euro or less. battery time is ok at 15hours mp3 or 7.5hours for radio. has drag and drop. not suitable for watching avis though if you need that.

feelpablo

had the same problem myself last year, went with the ipod classic and havent looked back at all.

All has to be done through itunes which is a pain at first because all files have to be changed.

Cyclonius

Thanks for the recommendations lads. I'll have a good look at both options.