Tennis/Golf Elbow

the lawman

Think I may have this at present. Haven't been diagnosed yet but the Internet tells me I do.

Anyone have/had this problem? And if so have any advice, names of decent physio's or treatments that could help me get better?

Will probably give it a few days before going for help (coz I'm playing Palmerstown tomorrow!).

ziggy

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the lawman

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I do have that cream and I'll start using it all right. I'll ice her up after each round too and heat it up before. Hopefully I can solve it long term as would be a disaster to have to take any kind of break.

PhilipMarlowe

Just a general F.Y.I., no medial advice allowed on boards so as the OP is obviously going to see a professional about this, limit any discussion to how you've managed treatment, effect on game etc.

Sandwlch

I had it for a couple of years. Bad enough to the point of nto being able to play due to the pain. The more I played the worse it got.
Not sure which was true cure but :

- used a double strap linked by a piece of steel. i.e. strap below elbow and strap around wrist. Linked to each other by a flat steel strip approx 10x2x200. Marketed to tennis players but decided to give it a try.
- told by someone I was playing one day (not a doc or anything) that it was due to bending my left arm slightly (nothing excessive golf swing wise) on the backswing, and then 'snapping' it straight again on the downswing. So I worked on keeping it straighter.

Within 3 months of doing the above, pain disappeared and has not returned whatsoever, despite a lot of intensive golf. Almost 20 years later.

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the lawman

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I know you're asking the post above but I'm a cack handed right hander and it's my left elbow. So that's the same as me I guess!

Love to find a physio that has good experience in fixing this for golfers.

Sandwlch

Otherway around for me. Am right handed. Left elbow was the problem, the one I since keep straighter, and at the time on which I wore the strap thing.
Was a right bitch. Badly wanted to play. Would go out and have to quit after 9 holes. When it was bad, I could not bend my elbow fully. Beyond 45 degree and the pain increased badly on the outside of the elbow. Kinda surprised in went away so completely thereafter. I did wear the straps for about 6 months after the problem went though just to be on the safe side.

Good luck finding the cure.

the lawman

Sandwlch wrote: »

Otherway around for me. Am right handed. Left elbow was the problem, the one I since keep straighter, and at the time on which I wore the strap thing.
Was a right bitch. Badly wanted to play. Would go out and have to quit after 9 holes. When it was bad, I could not bend my elbow fully. Beyond 45 degree and the pain increased badly on the outside of the elbow. Kinda surprised in went away so completely thereafter. I did wear the straps for about 6 months after the problem went though just to be on the safe side.

Good luck finding the cure.

Glad to hear you're all sorted mate. Do you have a specific name or model for that strap thing? Might help in the short term.

Sandwlch

the lawman wrote: »

Glad to hear you're all sorted mate. Do you have a specific name or model for that strap thing? Might help in the short term.

Not sure where I got it. Elverys maybe.
Just like the one in the photo in the link :
http://www.healblog.net/medical/taking-care-of-tennis-elbow-braces/

Brodick

I had this problem last year. Went to physio who did some work on it and recommended a cream you can buy from a chemist. I also bought an elbow strap from the chemist. Physio recommended rest for 3 months but I've heard of people playing through the pain. There is a famous Sports Injury clinic in Santry who can deal more aggressively with the condition. Physio was very expensive and I wouldn't do that again. My doctor didn't think so either.

Best wishes

Gophur

The only "cure" is rest.
The physio seems to manipulate the muscles to encourage blood-flow to the affected area, but it's still a slow heal.

I'm on my fourth occurrence of it now. Normally it's a 12-14 week recover but I did have it for one time when it took 13 months to heal.

(As it is a tear close to where the muscle is attached to the bone, I'm guessing it can be somehow weakened after each occurrence and more likely to reoccur)

the lawman

Played today and no major pain at the moment. That volteral cream worked well.

I'll wait to next week to see how it heals.

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dobaluchi

I developed Golfers elbow in my right elbow this year. I'm also right handed. I was initially worried and did the whole Internet thing.
What I did was stretch the tendons in the elbow. Again see internet. Put hand on a table whilst standing with fingers facing your body and you'll feel a stretch. Or put hand straight out in front of you with forearm facing skyward and pull fingers down towards elbow.

Just keep doing that a few times a day and play thru it. Tis no bother now. Still smarts every now and then esp after the driving range.

Basically don't worry about it and don't listen to what a physic tell you. My GP told me thru play thru and he's a specialist in sports injuries.

Woodgate

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Basically don't worry about it and don't listen to what a physic tell you. My GP told me thru play thru and he's a specialist in sports injuries.

:):)

the lawman

Before I start taking stretches from Youtube I really think its important that I confirm that it's actually tennis elbow. If its something else then I could be wasting a lot of time.

Gonna make a booking with a physio next week and get it confirmed for sure.

The reason why I'm skeptical is its occurring now during a period where I've been playing little golf (2 rounds a month for last 2 months), whereas I've been playing maybe 7 rounds a month for the previous 2 years!!

Hopefully it is an impact injury that will go away but I need to get this confirmed before treatment.

L.O.F.T

The link below might help you the lawman?

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instruction/blogs/theinstructionblog/2011/10/whenever-i-see-my-friend.html

the lawman

L.O.F.T wrote: »

The link below might help you the lawman?

http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instruction/blogs/theinstructionblog/2011/10/whenever-i-see-my-friend.html

Thanks LOFT I'll certainly use those tips.

Funnily enough I had my monthly visit with my chiro last night and showed him the issue. He confirmed it was Golfer's Elbow (golfers elbow is pain on the under-side of the elbow and tennis elbow is the topside) and completed some manipulation and acupuncture on the elbow and its much much better today!!

Bit of a rest for 2 weeks and some exercises and I'll be right as rain.

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bigguy086

people who suffer from golfers elbow normally have an issue in their golf swing called chicken winging where their left arm bends at impact or slightly after impact. until you correct this issue you will always suffer from it. this may be caused by a physical issue also so getting a proper golf fitness instructor to give you a full body screening can help you. hope this helps

Gophur

That's assuming the golf swing caused the tennis elbow. The tennis elbow may have been caused by something different.

andyoz

Gophur wrote: »

That's assuming the golf swing caused the tennis elbow. The tennis elbow may have been caused by something different.

I thought I had tennis/golf elbow but turns out it was caused by bad desk/PC mouse setup. Once that was fixed I was fine. Are you sure that it isn't just the golf swing showing up an issue that isn't actually caused by the golf swing. It was originally so painful, I didn't play for years

bigguy086

Gophur wrote: »

That's assuming the golf swing caused the tennis elbow. The tennis elbow may have been caused by something different.

tennis elbow is right arm for righthanded golfers golfers elbow is left arm

Gophur

Tennis elbow is tennis elbow, it describes a condition and can affect either arm.

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george67

"Tennis elbow" and "golfers elbow" are common names for Tendinitis a stretching of the tendon that bends over/under the elbow . There is no cure only rest and use of a strap.

What happens is the tendon loosens from a strain and the rubs off the bone at the elbow causing the pain .
The strap keeps the tendon "strapped" down thus keeping it from popping up with the everyday use of the forearm.

Use of various gels are mainly for pain killing although a mild anti-inflammatory (nurofen ) will help on the bad days .

I found that the use of a good strap and wearing it even in bed really helped.

Best of luck