thinking of throwing in the towel in Australia

Barrythe chopper

Hey guys id like your advice please. Ive been in Australia/Perth now for two months and i am thinking of going back home, funds are getting small and i am finding it hard to find work here. I had a job but the boss screwed me and now i have nothing, Im very lonely and anxious, even though i stay at a hostel im still lonely. There isnt anything for me back home either. Im just wondering has or is anyone else feeling like this etc and how to get on with things and how to change things around if possible. Thanks guys

mandrake04

Try a different city.

Theresalwaysone

Exactly. Get out of Perth, fresh start in another city. People there wont know you so you cna be whoever you want to be.

Going home would be the worst option for a variety of reasons, the main one being the sense of regret you'd feel about it. Get up North to Cairns or Darwin, or East to Sydney or Victoria.

Id suggest Melbourne because I love the city but its horses for courses.

Essien

Assuming you're on a WHV, why not head off somewhere and do your regional work? It should be easier to get than regular work and you might aswell get it out of the way while you're doing nothing else.

You might even get a job with someone who can put you up for the 3 months which would slowdown the drain on funds.

Barrythe chopper

how would i go about looking for that? ive been using gumtree etc should i go to a job angency then like aussie jobs etc?

CatchLight

Barry, thejobshop.com.au , register your resume on this website and look through the jobs. They seem to have a few positions in regional WA and they have an office in Northbridge so you can go in to chat to them.

I'm sort of in the same position. I have a casual job at the minute but just got a phone call cancelling for today (again), only worked 8 hours last week. I doubt I'll get many hours this week either but I'm going to stick at it and keep looking for new jobs. It is incredibly frustrating so I know how you feel. It's no fun having nothing to your name and reading threads on here with people saying they are earning $1500-1800 a week.

Also, if you really are not happy here, don't feel bad about going home. It's not the end of the world.

mise_me_fein3

Do your regional work in WA. You'll save up loads of cash, then head to Melbourne for the summer. More work here as it's bigger. You could go to Sydney but I didn't like it. Love it here.

Essien

I just went to wa.gumtree.com.au

Go to "Jobs" and search "visa"

A lot of the ads will be jobs stating that it counts towards your 2nd year visa. You can search whatever you want but that works for me anyway.

http://wa.gumtree.com.au/f-visa-Jobs-W0QQCatIdZ9302QQKeywordZvisaQQisSearchFormZtrueQQlsiZProvinceQQlsnZWesternQ20Australia

Barrythe chopper

CatchLight wrote: »

Barry, thejobshop.com.au , register your resume on this website and look through the jobs. They seem to have a few positions in regional WA and they have an office in Northbridge so you can go in to chat to them.

I'm sort of in the same position. I have a casual job at the minute but just got a phone call cancelling for today (again), only worked 8 hours last week. I doubt I'll get many hours this week either but I'm going to stick at it and keep looking for new jobs. It is incredibly frustrating so I know how you feel. It's no fun having nothing to your name and reading threads on here with people saying they are earning $1500-1800 a week.

Also, if you really are not happy here, don't feel bad about going home. It's not the end of the world.

thanks catchlight i am registered with them and will drop into them and see what the story is.It is frustrating i agree i was supposed to stay in perth untill decemember but i think its time to leave now so heres hopeing and thanks for the link Essien i hope things improve thanks

JustAThought

Bad start but don't give up. There's little or nothing here so keep at it ; it can bea lonely place ( been there done that) but all you need is a bit of luck and to bump into a like minded few folk and it'll all be brighter.
Hate to hear of folk being ripped off; is ur an hours thing or was it mire complicated( meaning is it fixable:(. If you re owed money)
Register with a few agencies and put in calls every day; if they like the sound of you and you re upbeat you might wellget sthing soon. I very nearlychanged my flight and came home but I'm really glad I didn't; my luck changed and I ended up enjoying it and having a few adventures & meeting some great folk. It's miserable here too; keep at it; and register make those calls or if you're in the sticks emails to lots of agencies every day; they needto know your name & thatyou re looking hard before they give you the job! It'll be worth it!!!
Hasn't the SW changed too so that if you go away to work there's a long gap between when you can get money again

Keep at it ; it ll be worth it!!!! And try and keep the form up : )

Yumee

I moved to Perth first too because there was so much in the media about there being loads of work there but after searching for 3 weeks my friend and i decided to bite the bullet and book a flight to melbourne- best decision i ever made! There is way more work here and its a beautiful city with a better buzz than Perth. I would seriously advise you to sign up to agencies in melbourne, tell them what you're looking for and that you will be landing in melbourne next week. You can get a flight with jetstar on a mon/tues for about 200 dollars.. Don't panic anyway. Boardsies do meet ups at the weekends here too, havnt been to one yet but intend to! Hope this helps and if you decide to make the move and need advice on hostels or anything you can PM me no problem. Best of luck to you!

Barrythe chopper

Yumee wrote: »

I moved to Perth first too because there was so much in the media about there being loads of work there but after searching for 3 weeks my friend and i decided to bite the bullet and book a flight to melbourne- best decision i ever made! There is way more work here and its a beautiful city with a better buzz than Perth. I would seriously advise you to sign up to agencies in melbourne, tell them what you're looking for and that you will be landing in melbourne next week. You can get a flight with jetstar on a mon/tues for about 200 dollars.. Don't panic anyway. Boardsies do meet ups at the weekends here too, havnt been to one yet but intend to! Hope this helps and if you decide to make the move and need advice on hostels or anything you can PM me no problem. Best of luck to you!

thanks Yumee it makes a hell of a lot of sense thanks do you know of any particular job agencies in melbourne i should go too? thanks for the help :-)

Barrythe chopper

is there any meet ups in perth? also

Is the lack of jobs really that bad in Perth?
I'm heading there in 3 weeks and after reading this thread I'm a bit worried now

irishh_bob

Barrythe chopper wrote: »

Hey guys id like your advice please. Ive been in Australia/Perth now for two months and i am thinking of going back home, funds are getting small and i am finding it hard to find work here. I had a job but the boss screwed me and now i have nothing, Im very lonely and anxious, even though i stay at a hostel im still lonely. There isnt anything for me back home either. Im just wondering has or is anyone else feeling like this etc and how to get on with things and how to change things around if possible. Thanks guys

i dont know you but i would like to share my experience from many years ago , i lived and worked in that part of the world for a period of four months in the late nineties , for reasons i wont go into , i returned home earlier than i would have liked , upon arriving back home , i really regretted what i had done , it take quite a bit of effort to make such a long trip , it would be a shame to not get everything you had hoped for out of it , not to sound trivial but living in australia is not like living on dublin , you could almost sleep rough if push came to shove and the weather would not be an issue , id only come home if i was truly ready , have you considered working on a farm over there , you could get a job driving a tractor during the upcoming sowing season on the wheat farms , driving in a 2000 acre field might be boring but its handy work and the money isnt too bad , thier is a company based in new zealand who find farm work for people in nz and australia , i think thier called marvin farms , even they dont place people on australian farms , they are bound to have a contact across the tasman

busyliving

Hey OP I was in the same boat as yourself, found it very hard to get work...even bar work or labouring. I came home and to be honest was the best thing I did, it could be because the found the Australians the worst people I've never had experience with as well and just didn't like the place, the whole drinking culture amongst the Irish was much worse that back here...

Also I was in Perth, but also Sydney and Melbourne

Tigerandahalf

OP
It's a good post as I'm sure there are many others in your position but hey there is no fun talking about how bad your situation is!
It's a tough choice..when you're lonely/homesick there's not a huge amount you can do. But as you say there is nothing in Ireland right now and it won't be getting better any time soon. I would try to stick it out. Go and do your seasonal work ...at least then you will have options. You may also be more likely to meet other people. Cities are great but unless you know people or have a social circle it can be tough. Get the farm work done, it will buy you time. Maybe an add on gumtree seeking another person to do the seasonal work with. Explore all your options...no points having regrets when you come home.

jamiecoins

Essien wrote: »

I just went to wa.gumtree.com.au

Go to "Jobs" and search "visa"

A lot of the ads will be jobs stating that it counts towards your 2nd year visa. You can search whatever you want but that works for me anyway.

http://wa.gumtree.com.au/f-visa-Jobs-W0QQCatIdZ9302QQKeywordZvisaQQisSearchFormZtrueQQlsiZProvinceQQlsnZWesternQ20Australia

sorry for jumping in what do u mean 2nd visa ? i tawt u can only get a 1 year viza?

elliott550

Hi OP, I'm heading to Melbourne in the morning and your post gave me a bit of a judder! I'm a bit old for this backpacking stuff and my mad drinking days are behind me, but, as you mentioned yourself there's precious little by way of opportunity here.

Anyway, i've not been there yet so zero advice to give! But if you make it to Melbourne and you want a bit of banter give us a shout as I wont know a sinner!

gaoife

Hi Barry
Do you have a skill or trade?
I've been looking for work and i found lots of adds on seek.com just search "6 months no experience" in perth and some call centre work should pop up for you, otherwise try no experience of working holiday searches on gumtree you should see a few adds then. good luck

spunkymunky

If you can, stick it out. Look at the regional work. Gives you options, you will definatley meet people and maybe someone to go back to the city with. Change your facebook location to where you are living. The new groups they have, group by location aswell. You never know who you might know!! Email and text anybody you have alink you. No shame in this at all. Everyones been through it (probably)
It is expensive living in oz without work but is it any worse than home? Will you have work at home? All the "Doom and Gloom"?
Ask the folks for a lend if you can.
Someone said this to me beforewhen I had a good paying job but like you felt a little lonely. Was considering going home.
She said
"Its easy to go home but very difficult to leave!!"
and i well believe it. I did leave but went to New Zealand. Nearly went home though! Glad i didnt!
You can leave perth if you want, thats the great thing about being away!

danotroy

Hello, i just stumbled onto this topic and i think its an appropriate for me to join in this conversation.

i have just finished 6 years in university and i cannot for the life of me find work in ireland so ive decided to move to melbourne. I have a few friends there who have said that there are jobs everywhere in pubs and cafes and that they have already got a job sorted for me when i land however i only want to work in a bar until i find my feet. i have a masters in town and country planning and i hope to work in that field when i find my feet. my major problem is that i just need to leave ireland and i shall be leaving in 4 weeks by which time i will only have saved about 2000-2500 oz dollars will this be enough for me? i have accom sorted at 175 a week and a job, hopefully, and im not going to lie i will probably party the first weekend i arrive but i'm not going to oz for a year on the lash i am going as i need to kick start my career and oz seems to be the place to do that. however after reading this thread i am a bit worried

irishmover

danotroy wrote: »

Hello, i just stumbled onto this topic and i think its an appropriate for me to join in this conversation.

i have just finished 6 years in university and i cannot for the life of me find work in ireland so ive decided to move to melbourne. I have a few friends there who have said that there are jobs everywhere in pubs and cafes and that they have already got a job sorted for me when i land however i only want to work in a bar until i find my feet. i have a masters in town and country planning and i hope to work in that field when i find my feet. my major problem is that i just need to leave ireland and i shall be leaving in 4 weeks by which time i will only have saved about 2000-2500 oz dollars will this be enough for me? i have accom sorted at 175 a week and a job, hopefully, and im not going to lie i will probably party the first weekend i arrive but i'm not going to oz for a year on the lash i am going as i need to kick start my career and oz seems to be the place to do that. however after reading this thread i am a bit worried

I dont get why you would be worried if you have a job once you land. Unless the pay is ridiculously low that you wont be able to budget over a long period of time. Have you tried to work out whether you can live off that bar staff job until you get sorted with whatever job you are qualified in from Uni?

I've not moved to Australia yet. I'm in an entirely different predicament to you. I have sponsorship and waiting on my 457 visa to process before moving with a job doing what I'm qualified to do. I already know I can live very easily on this wage. However I'm still intrigued by other scenarios to get a more broad idea myself. I do find it odd though that you're worried about finances if you have a job when you land.

Edit: Just seen the "hopefully" bit, so this means you dont have a guaranteed job when you arrive? That would make an awful lot more sense to me!

daveyeh

danotroy wrote: »

i'm not going to oz for a year on the lash i am going as i need to kick start my career and oz seems to be the place to do that. however after reading this thread i am a bit worried

i had been considering upping sticks and moving down under too, but i've heard recently from friends over there that the aussies are about to have their own burst housing bubble and inevitable recession. work is drying up all over the place. turned me off moving. that and the drunken aussie moron mentality.

danotroy

Hello irish mover.

well i have a friend i lived with in the uk for 2 years out in Melbourne. He has been there on the lash for the last year he dropped out of uni and went to oz he has been very good to me in my moving to melbourne. he has sorted accommodation in a half way house kind of place for me and he has said that he will get me a job as all his friends work in bars cafes etc. but the wages are 16-20 dollars an hour. I have a 20k plus loan at home from college i went a bit mad with the olde education. I have to pay back about 500 dollars a month when i get to oz, well i have the first 4 months covered so im okay till march but im just anxious as whether i can get a proper job that pays at least 40k a year before march in my desired field.

danotroy

daveyeh wrote: »

i had been considering upping sticks and moving down under too, but i've heard recently from friends over there that the aussies are about to have their own burst housing bubble and inevitable recession. work is drying up all over the place. turned me off moving. that and the drunken aussie moron mentality.

yeah its all been jobs jobs jobs for so long now its too good to be true. Ive been sending my cv which is pretty good to all the graduate jobs advertised on various job websites but all im getting back from employers is that i do not have enough experience. I have 6 months planning experience and thats their requirement, is this the first sign of a recession?

daveyeh

danotroy wrote: »

yeah its all been jobs jobs jobs for so long now its too good to be true. Ive been sending my cv which is pretty good to all the graduate jobs advertised on various job websites but all im getting back from employers is that i do not have enough experience. I have 6 months planning experience and thats their requirement, is this the first sign of a recession?

possibly. i'd think there won't be much call for town and country planning if no one is going to be buying property for the foreseeable future.

irishmover

danotroy wrote: »

Hello irish mover.

well i have a friend i lived with in the uk for 2 years out in Melbourne. He has been there on the lash for the last year he dropped out of uni and went to oz he has been very good to me in my moving to melbourne. he has sorted accommodation in a half way house kind of place for me and he has said that he will get me a job as all his friends work in bars cafes etc. but the wages are 16-20 dollars an hour. I have a 20k plus loan at home from college i went a bit mad with the olde education. I have to pay back about 500 dollars a month when i get to oz, well i have the first 4 months covered so im okay till march but im just anxious as whether i can get a proper job that pays at least 40k a year before march in my desired field.

Ouch a loan is a difficult thing to have hanging over you while moving. I think it would be wise to budget for the worst case scenario (job in bar, **** hours and 16 dollars an hour) and go from there.

You australian job hunting loads and applying to plenty of jobs before ya head out right?

It's easier preaching this to people than practising it myself, as to be honest I reckon I'll probably be going mad on my first 2 weeks off aswell but you should try keep it quiet on the nights out for the first month atleast. Until you know you can afford it.

My brother (WHV 1 year) came home after 3 months around 9 years ago because he blew all his money on drink, worked a bit but got the sack for being too lazy or not showing up for work.

zweton

$10 plus for a beer i believe,wouldnt want to be going too mad!

daveyeh

zweton wrote: »

$10 plus for a beer

:eek::eek::eek:

Xavi6

Deleted User wrote: »

Is the lack of jobs really that bad in Perth?
I'm heading there in 3 weeks and after reading this thread I'm a bit worried now

There's plenty of jobs, just depends what you're willing to do. While things haven't worked out for the OP, there are plenty of happy Irish folk here. One stroll down Hay Street at lunch time will show that with the amount of GAA and Munster jerseys floating about.

I've been in Perth four and a half years and love it but, again, different strokes.

danotroy

irishmover wrote: »

Ouch a loan is a difficult thing to have hanging over you while moving. I think it would be wise to budget for the worst case scenario (job in bar, **** hours and 16 dollars an hour) and go from there.

You australian job hunting loads and applying to plenty of jobs before ya head out right?

It's easier preaching this to people than practising it myself, as to be honest I reckon I'll probably be going mad on my first 2 weeks off aswell but you should try keep it quiet on the nights out for the first month atleast. Until you know you can afford it.

My brother (WHV 1 year) came home after 3 months around 9 years ago because he blew all his money on drink, worked a bit but got the sack for being too lazy or not showing up for work.

yeah i am job hunting loads and there are loads of jobs out there but as i said the experience thing is killing me and i fear that thats the first sign of a recession kicking in. i think we have been lulled into this false sense that australia is a place where we the irish can go fall into a job and be successful.

Newsite

danotroy wrote: »

i think we have been lulled into this false sense that australia is a place where we the irish can go fall into a job and be successful.

I don't think that's the case really...don't think there is anywhere in the world where you can do that! Takes hard work, persistence, being good with people and a small dose of luck methinks..these days I don't reckon there is anywhere where the streets are paved with gold!

danotroy

Newsite wrote: »

I don't think that's the case really...don't think there is anywhere in the world where you can do that! Takes hard work, persistence, being good with people and a small dose of luck methinks..these days I don't reckon there is anywhere where the streets are paved with gold!

yes i agree with you maybe it was just my perception of oz but for as long as ive known people of my age going to oz they have all ended up getting jobs quite easily and getting sponsored etc, even those who possess limited qualifications.

mise_me_fein3

daveyeh wrote: »

i had been considering upping sticks and moving down under too, but i've heard recently from friends over there that the aussies are about to have their own burst housing bubble and inevitable recession. work is drying up all over the place. turned me off moving. that and the drunken aussie moron mentality.

Your friends are talking rubbish about a housing bubble. My uncle has been over here 20 years and says things slow down for him but personally I think that's just his personal situation. I've 3 brothers over here and we're in 4 different places doing well.

If you mean a slowdown on a scale of 10 from 8 to 6 here, I'd have Ireland currently at 1 or 2.

Australia trades more with China than the US and of course its affected by the world economy but there are not many places better places for the future than here. Asia is booming. Ask your friends about the mining boom here and then click on the links I've posted below.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5qSvtxaPgY

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15162390

http://www.theage.com.au/business/bhp-in-global-top-10-earners-20110824-1jacg.html

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-business/rio-tinto-profits-up-260-per-cent-20100805-11jyh.html

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/financial-services/banks-tipped-to-lift-cash-profits-to-24bn/story-fn91wd6x-1226157589778

If people are homesick fair enough but blaming the economy is pure bull.

Theresalwaysone

There is most certainly a housing/property bubble in Australia at the moment. Whether or not it bursts in the next few years is anyones guess but its definitely there.

It will burst though. Just like Ireland and to think otherwise is delusional.

mise_me_fein3

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

There is most certainly a housing/property bubble in Australia at the moment. Whether or not it bursts in the next few years is anyones guess but its definitely there.

It will burst though. Just like Ireland and to think otherwise is delusional.

Please tell me you looked at the you tube link showing the comparison between Australian and Irish house prices.

You can't just blindly use the delusional without knowing the factors at work here. Prices have risen by a huge amount true, but they have been going down a little recently. Interest rates are pretty high here unlike in Ireland during the boom times when they were low which was set up like this in order to stimulate the German economy.

Anyway, why would you care about a housing bubble....are any of you planning on taking out a mortgage here? If you think that the only thing being built here in construction is houses really ARE DELUSIONAL.

Theresalwaysone

I didnt look at the youtube link because I can't in work but I've researched the topic a good bit and while there definitely are differences. There are also worrying similarities.

I never said anything about only houses being built in construction... where did that even come from? This isnt a prerequisite for a housing bubble in anycase.

I dont care about a housing bubble, I'll likely only be here for 2 years. But to deny that there is one happening, albeit slowly, is a bit silly. The property asset class is becoming more and more relied upon, the credit is available (not as cheap as Ireland was admittedly), the culture of property ownership is prevalent, the contemporary Aussie Psyche is becoming more and more geared towards property as a quick earner (see tv shows like 'the block').

I might not be as quickly inflating and bursting as an irish bubble but the warning signs are there.

ellaq

Theresalwaysone wrote: »

I didnt look at the youtube link because I can't in work but I've researched the topic a good bit and while there definitely are differences. There are also worrying similarities.

I never said anything about only houses being built in construction... where did that even come from? This isnt a prerequisite for a housing bubble in anycase.

I dont care about a housing bubble, I'll likely only be here for 2 years. But to deny that there is one happening, albeit slowly, is a bit silly. The property asset class is becoming more and more relied upon, the credit is available (not as cheap as Ireland was admittedly), the culture of property ownership is prevalent, the contemporary Aussie Psyche is becoming more and more geared towards property as a quick earner (see tv shows like 'the block').

I might not be as quickly inflating and bursting as an irish bubble but the warning signs are there.

I don't know what state you are in but I am in WA and your comments are about 4 years out of date. We peaked in 2006/2007 and house prices have been slowly regressing.

There are jobs out there but aligning the worker with the job seems to be difficult for some employers. I think there is a lack of HR skills in small companies. Take my friend for example. Last week he needed 5 casual labourers in a small WA town, he was paying great money. He didn't think to plan for this, he just wanted 5 workers with a few days notice to do this job. Needless to say that he could only get a few backpackers that were willing to do it. Next time it will be the same, the mining game is a very unorganised business, especially in smaller companies. And he will continue to complain about the lack of workers in WA.

A.Partridge

Easiest place to pick up a job is definitely Canberra.

May not be the most exciting location but if you are running low on money and confidence there is lots of choice there to get you re-established.

My son was in the same position as you last year and walked Sydney for 8 weeks without picking up a single job. He went to Canberra at the last minute and was working within a day of arrival there. Never looked back.

Best of luck. Don't give up.

jank

danotroy wrote: »

yeah its all been jobs jobs jobs for so long now its too good to be true. Ive been sending my cv which is pretty good to all the graduate jobs advertised on various job websites but all im getting back from employers is that i do not have enough experience. I have 6 months planning experience and thats their requirement, is this the first sign of a recession?

I think the fact that you have a qualificition that is not in demand, only 6 months work "experience" and are on a WHV is the fact you are having a hard time getting a job. Nothing to do with a recession.

jank

danotroy wrote: »

yeah i am job hunting loads and there are loads of jobs out there but as i said the experience thing is killing me and i fear that thats the first sign of a recession kicking in. i think we have been lulled into this false sense that australia is a place where we the irish can go fall into a job and be successful.

What, you mean you didnt get a job at the airport? They weren't handing them out on every street corner? Did you also believe that house prices always go up?

Always do your own research. The thing with Oz is that you have to go out yourself and find your own place. Talk to people, dont expect it to be handed to you. I cant stress the last point enough. It is not what you know it is WHO you know....

You HAVE to make contacts and keep plugging away to find that job, use one job as a stepping stone to another. No one is going to give it to you, why should they?
Contacts and networking are so important, alot of Irish in OZ find that a surprise but those that do are probably clueless and expect things to be handed out ala the celtic tiger days. Shows how inept alot of young people are IMO.

danotroy

jank wrote: »

What, you mean you didnt get a job at the airport? They weren't handing them out on every street corner? Did you also believe that house prices always go up?

Always do your own research. The thing with Oz is that you have to go out yourself and find your own place. Talk to people, dont expect it to be handed to you. I cant stress the last point enough. It is not what you know it is WHO you know....

You HAVE to make contacts and keep plugging away to find that job, use one job as a stepping stone to another. No one is going to give it to you, why should they?
Contacts and networking are so important, alot of Irish in OZ find that a surprise but those that do are probably clueless and expect things to be handed out ala the celtic tiger days. Shows how inept alot of young people are IMO.

Thanks for the advice and i agree with you that young people are inept. I think you missed the fact that i am not in Australia yet and the fact that i made the same point as you about the irish in oz thinking it will be the same as the celtic tiger days.

my main worry is that i head off to oz end up spending a year there working in bars and cafes not being able to secure work in my chosen field thus wasting a year when i could be at home working in a bar cafe factory. I think my strategy will be to continue with the large recruitment agencies online and when i get to MElbourne find small planning consultants and offer work for free in order to build up a network of friends and hopefully after a few months of this something on the planning front should materialize.

danotroy

jank wrote: »

I think the fact that you have a qualificition that is not in demand, only 6 months work "experience" and are on a WHV is the fact you are having a hard time getting a job. Nothing to do with a recession.

Also my qualification is in demand it is on every critical skills list and there is a distinct lack of planners across Australia as of a lecture hosted by the Australian government whilst i was in college and here part 3 http://www.rtpi.org.uk/item/1028/

jank

Hit a nerve, have I?

danotroy

jank wrote: »

Hit a nerve, have I?

no you havent i just think launching into a little rant about how i shouldnt of expected to get a job at the airport when im still debating as whether to head to australia is a little silly.

mandrake04

danotroy wrote: »

yeah its all been jobs jobs jobs for so long now its too good to be true. Ive been sending my cv which is pretty good to all the graduate jobs advertised on various job websites but all im getting back from employers is that i do not have enough experience. I have 6 months planning experience and thats their requirement, is this the first sign of a recession?

6 months experience is nothing and in Australian companies always like 'Local experience'. Also they might not be impressed with your qualifications or CV rather than your lack if experience.

Also what sort of visa do you have? If it's a WHV then you are only limited to 6 months work that's enough to put employers off in itself.

There is/going be a hugh housing shortage in Australia especially in Sydney, they are probably going need town planners as some stage.

Ireland has 17% (345,000) empty houses/Ghost estates so they are not going to need town planners for a decade or so.

The HIA, which represents the building industry, forecasts NSW will have a housing shortfall of 155,000 if houses continue to be built at the historical average of the past 20 years.
Even if the state picks up its home building rate from the current 40,600 to 48,600 per annum (a high building scenario), it will still have a shortfall of 84,000 houses by 2020, according to HIA modelling.
Under the same medium rate scenario, Western Australia will be 112,000 short of the number of houses it needs by 2020, followed by Victoria (104,200), Queensland (91,800) and South Australia (24,600).
The ACT is building just about enough houses annually, with an undersupply of just 1,400 houses projected by 2020 if building conditions remain unchanged.
Australia’s weakest housing market, Tasmania is the only state market building enough houses currently and is forecast to be in surplus (1,300) by 2020.
In total, the HIA forecasts a shortage of 500,000 homes by 2020 across the nation, should building rates not pick up.

At a local government area level, flood-damaged Brisbane is heading for a housing shortage of 25,000 by 2020 at current building rates, according to HIA.

Other notable municipalities heading for significant housing shortages in nine years’ time include Darwin (6,500), Sydney’s Sutherland Shire (4,700) and Blacktown (4,400) in Sydney’s outer west.

danotroy

mandrake04 wrote: »

6 months experience is nothing and in Australian companies always like 'Local experience'. Also they might not be impressed with your qualifications or CV rather than your lack if experience.

Also what sort of visa do you have? If it's a WHV then you are only limited to 6 months work that's enough to put employers off in itself.

There is/going be a hugh housing shortage in Australia especially in Sydney, they are probably going need town planners as some stage.

Ireland has 17% (345,000) empty houses/Ghost estates so they are not going to need town planners for a decade or so.

I will be on a WHV as that is the only option available to my Budget and i dont think getting a few months experience here in ireland will help my CV any further. The qualifications should be of merit as many australia planners have previously done the course i was on.

Im well aware ireland isn't going to need planners for a long long time. There are lots of planning jobs in australia that seems to be where the work is but as you said on the WHV i am limited to 6 months with an employer so if i arrive in oz and don't secure a job in planning within 6 months i am stuck with the decision of whether to go and do my 3 months on a farm in order to get the extra year or to head home with a wasted 6 months under my belt.

This is my first major life decision!

dave3004

For farming jobs to get yourself a 2nd year visa and save some coin try the below website

http://jobsearch.gov.au/harvesttrail/default.aspx

dave3004

Read the article after posting above.
Been here over a year in Melbourne and let me solve and answer some of your questions truthfully.

1. Pints are not more than 10 dollars.In general they are $8 a pint of whatever. Maybe 9 if your on bud/heineken but most people acquire a taste for one of the local beers. Mine is James Boags.

2. There is a housing bubble in Australia. There are worries it will burst. I dont think it will any time soon though.

3. There are plenty of jobs in Melbourne. I am not sure if there are in regard to your masters but I have many friends here with me, not alot of qualifications and education really and all of us have managed to get sponsored.

4. It is a beautiful place to live, and although the winters aint great, they're better than home. Now its coming into summer and its one of my fav places in the world. Whether you wanna go to the Melbourne Cup in a couple of weeks, enjoy some events at Federation Square, Go on the Great Ocean Road, Go to the 95,000 seater MCG stadium, watch the Aussie Tennis Open in Jan, the summer in Melbourne is buzzing.

I would highly recommend coming over here....Especially any tradies who are in Ireland and out of work.

On an unrelated topic. Darwin is trying to hire construction workers from Ireland as there is a shortage there and obviously a surplus of workers in that industry in Ireland.

Any other questions I will try help.

danotroy

Dave thank you very much for your positivity may i ask what sorts of jobs your friends got sponsored in. i have friends who have gone to melbourne and other parts of oz not knowing their arse from their elbow and they have managed to get sponsored but im not sure what in.