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Britain get vote on Europe as MPs are forced to decide on referendum

  • 01-10-2011 10:24pm
    #1
    RobitTV
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭


    A historic vote on growing demands for Britain to leave the European Union will be held in the Commons before Christmas.

    MPs will debate whether the Government should give voters a chance to decide the issue once and for all in a referendum.

    It will be the first time Parliament has held a major vote on seeking the public’s view since the 1975 referendum confirming the decision to join the Common Market.

    Read more...


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  • #2
    landsleaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Never thought I'd say it, but I gained some respect for the Mail after clicking that link. They are the only British paper to not put an 'n' after the word 'a' before a word beginning with 'h'. The less I have to read something that makes me mentally turn into a cockney the better.
    A historic vote on growing demands for Britain to leave the European Union will be held in the Commons before Christmas.


  • #3
    TheMilkyPirate
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,028 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    landsleaving wrote: »
    Never thought I'd say it, but I gained some respect for the Mail after clicking that link. They are the only British paper to not put an 'n' after the word 'a' before a word beginning with 'h'. The less I have to read something that makes me mentally turn into a cockney the better.

    Wow, You read something as important as that and all you take it out of it is a grammar issue.


  • #4
    landsleaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    baraca wrote: »
    Wow, You read something as important as that and all you take it out of it is a grammar issue.

    I read the first sentence before spotting the Daily Mail logo and trying to escape without any new prejudices to add to my hatred of certain letters. So, yes, then.


  • #5
    Solnskaya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    baraca wrote: »
    Wow, You read something as important as that and all you take it out of it is a grammar issue.
    Therein lies the problem. People miss the big issues cos they're busy sweating the small stuff.


  • #6
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    RobitTV wrote: »
    It will be the first time Parliament has held a major vote on seeking the public’s view since the 1975 referendum confirming the decision to join the Common Market.

    Not counting this years AV referendum.

    Or the Scottish/Welsh/Northern Ireland referenda on devolution.


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  • #7
    4leto
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    This could be big, I could certainly see why the average British voter want to go. I think they should.


    Edit The Daily Mail, need I say anymore


  • #8
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    RobitTV wrote: »
    A historic vote on growing demands for Britain to leave the European Union will be held in the Commons before Christmas.

    MPs will debate whether the Government should give voters a chance to decide the issue once and for all in a referendum.

    It will be the first time Parliament has held a major vote on seeking the public’s view since the 1975 referendum confirming the decision to join the Common Market.

    Read more...


    A historic bit of copy pasting there young man. Have you an opinion on it atall atall?


  • #9
    Solnskaya
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    TheZohan wrote: »
    A historic bit of copy pasting there young man. Have you an opinion on it atall atall?
    nothing wrong with a bit of history:D If you don't know where you've been, you've no hope of knowing where you're going.


  • #10
    landsleaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Solnskaya wrote: »
    nothing wrong with a bit of history:D If you don't know where you've been, you've no hope of knowing where you're going.

    Google Maps ftw.


  • #11
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,759 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Solnskaya wrote: »
    nothing wrong with a bit of history:D If you don't know where you've been, you've no hope of knowing where you're going.

    That doesn't have sense... You can very easily know where you're going if you don't know where you've been...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • #12
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    One of their papers has a front page tomorrow saying the amount of money leaving the UK in the form of child benefit. They are right to leave.


  • #13
    TheZohanS
    Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Solnskaya wrote: »
    nothing wrong with a bit of history:D If you don't know where you've been, you've no hope of knowing where you're going.

    4 years ago the day before my birthday I woke up in my place with my head on the living room floor and my legs on the couch...I was in a sitting position but sort of upside down. My footwear and jeans were both covered in much and my hands had torns in them, how this happened on the way home from the club I have no idea.

    I had no idea where I'd been. but I knew where I was going; straight to bed!


  • #14
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    landsleaving wrote: »
    I read the first sentence before spotting the Daily Mail logo and trying to escape without any new prejudices to add to my hatred of certain letters. So, yes, then.

    Given their hatred of all things European I was kinda surprised to see the Daily Mail on sale in Berlin. Didnt think there was much of a market for that sort of thing among Germans born after 1945 ?


  • #15
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Given their hatred of all things European I was kinda surprised to see the Daily Mail on sale in Berlin. Didnt think there was much of a market for that sort of thing among Germans born after 1945 ?


    Is it not a disagreement with European policy and how Europe is heading that it has issues with.

    Funny how over the years we are always quick to judge those outside of this country when they take a certain position on an issue that they feel is not in the interest of that country...yet when the role is reversed and it is something that impacts on this country then we are up in arms !!


  • #16
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Funny how over the years we are always quick to judge those outside of this country when they take a certain position on an issue that they feel is not in the interest of that country.

    Ummm why do you assume that everyone on www.boards.ie is posting from the Republic of Ireland ?


  • #17
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    If they left the EU, wouldn't their export trade suffer due to import tariffs in EU countries?


  • #18
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Ummm why do you assume that everyone on www.boards.ie is posting from the Republic of Ireland ?

    Was more a general comment as opposed to specifically your post though yes I did quote your post... :)


  • #19
    darkman2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    If they left the EU, wouldn't their export trade suffer due to import tariffs in EU countries?

    Yes it would but the Brits still have delusions of Empire - let them leave. It will be funny to watch how much trade disappears within months of such a decision. And Ireland would benefit. Alot of multinationals over there in the EU market would not bat an eyelid jumping over here.


  • #20
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    If they left the EU, wouldn't their export trade suffer due to import tariffs in EU countries?

    How does this impact on other countries who export into the EU?

    Would assume you would have to take in a number of different things such as the cost of being in the EU etc...


  • #21
    OPENROAD
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,692 ✭✭✭✭OPENROAD


    darkman2 wrote: »
    Yes it would but the Brits still have delusions of Empire - let them leave. It will be funny to watch how much trade disappears within months of such a decision. And Ireland would benefit. Alot of companies over there in the EU market would not bat an eyelid jumping over here.

    How would Ireland benefit???? Like them or not...they are our major trading partner !!!!

    As for jumping over here...pretty confident with that are you?? why Ireland? Why not elsewhere in the EU where costs in general and the cost of living is in line are lower and where the workforce is just as educated or are fast catching up.


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  • #22
    darkman2
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 8,632 ✭✭✭darkman2


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    How would Ireland benefit???? Like them or not...they are our major trading partner !!!!

    As for jumping over here...pretty confident with that are you?? why Ireland? Why not elsewhere in the EU where costs in general and the cost of living is in line are lower and where the workforce is just as educated or are fast catching up.

    Why do you think London lost out to Dublin with Twitter this week? Do you know Twitter executives were in Downing Street with the PM? That they were wined and dined no end. We did not have to do that. Just sat back and they made thier decision. Ireland has lower taxes then Britain - especially on the corporate side. And it is the only other English speaking country in the EU. I think a British exit would have immense benefits here far outweighing any loss in trade that may initially occur.


  • #23
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    If they left the EU, wouldn't their export trade suffer due to import tariffs in EU countries?

    This is the problem with UK politics and newspapers. If the EU does something good the local politicians take credit and put anything wrong on the EU. Some newspapers have an agenda so instead of saying "EU wants to categorise bananas to help consumers", they actually say "Crazy EU want to ban bent bananas".

    My feeling is the majority of British politicians know all this and they also know the EU is very good for Britain. So they'll have to do one of two things, 1. Vote against holding a referendum or 2. Hold the referendum but campaign actively for the EU in the run up.

    The nationalistic bull that usually goes with being anti-EU will mean that no sense can prevail from a referendum. You only have to look at our own EU referenda. Lot's of lying and dirty tactics all round.


  • #24
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    OPENROAD wrote: »
    Gummy Panda wrote: »
    If they left the EU, wouldn't their export trade suffer due to import tariffs in EU countries?

    How does this impact on other countries who export into the EU?

    Would assume you would have to take in a number of different things such as the cost of being in the EU etc...

    It would greatly affect small businesses that export to EU countries. All of sudden their customers will pay UK tax + customs tax from their own country. Pricing them out of the market.


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