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Fixed Charge Offence

  • 01-10-2011 4:25pm
    #1
    jprboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭


    I've received a letter alleging speeding and thus commission of a fixed charge offence.

    The thing is I can actually recall the van in question on that day and it had no markings whatsoever on it.

    This from the Garda website:

    What will the safety cameras look like?

    On a phased basis, GoSafe will provide 6,000 enforcement hours and 1,475 survey hours per month across the country. For the 6,000 enforcement hours, the cameras will operate from vans which will be marked with high visibility reflective material and will display a safety camera symbol. Images of the vans are available on the Garda website – www.garda.ie.

    The survey hours will be conducted from unmarked vans, in order to accurately observe and record the speeds at which vehicles are currently travelling, for survey purposes only.

    So, do I have any recourse here? How can I claim that the van was unmarked and thus only surveying when it's just my word and I have no other proof of my own? Can I request this information? There is no appeals process so I would end up having to go to court to plead my case?

    Thanks.


Comments

  • #2
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    The Gardai have there own fleet of vans which have no markings.


  • #3
    MugMugs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    The Gardai have there own fleet of vans which have no markings.

    Yup. You've been GATSO'd


  • #4
    jprboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭jprboy


    Thanks for the quick replies.


    One other straw to grasp at :)....... the reference no. on the notice is S0183..........


    I suspect there is one numbering convention for GATSO and another for Go Safe. Anyone able to shed any light on this?


    Thanks again.


  • #5
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    What was the speed limit where you were caught???


  • #6
    jprboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭jprboy


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    What was the speed limit where you were caught???

    Where I was allegedly ;) caught........ 80km ... why does it matter?


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  • #7
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    jprboy wrote: »
    Where I was allegedly ;) caught........ 80km ... why does it matter?

    The reason I ask is that the go safe vans dont really appear in 50/60 zones. Was the road signposted that there was go safe vans operating in the area???


  • #8
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    I've only ever seen the Go Safe vans in 50 and 60k zones, most recently in a 60 zone this afternoon. And signs don't need to specify who is operating the van.

    Man up and accept you were speeding.


  • #9
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I've only ever seen the Go Safe vans in 50 and 60k zones, most recently in a 60 zone this afternoon.


    What was the reg of the van????


  • #10
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Are you serious ? Why ?


  • #11
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    Are you serious ? Why ?

    Was it a D reg???


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  • #12
    robbie_998
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    you were speeding.

    get over it and pay the fine and take the hit.

    there should be no more to this discussion !


  • #13
    ThisRegard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    Don't know, don't care, I don't check out the registration plates of random vans.


  • #14
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    robbie_998 wrote: »
    you were speeding.

    get over it and pay the fine and take the hit.

    there should be no more to this discussion !

    WTF are you on about???:confused:


  • #15
    robbie_998
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭robbie_998


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    WTF are you on about???:confused:


    didnt actually meant to quote yourself.


    sorry about that !


  • #16
    jprboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭jprboy


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    The reason I ask is that the go safe vans dont really appear in 50/60 zones. Was the road signposted that there was go safe vans operating in the area???

    Yes
    -Corkie- wrote: »
    What was the reg of the van????

    Didn't get the reg.
    robbie_998 wrote: »
    you were speeding.

    get over it and pay the fine and take the hit.

    there should be no more to this discussion !

    Censorship? :(


  • #17
    jprboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭jprboy


    ThisRegard wrote: »
    I've only ever seen the Go Safe vans in 50 and 60k zones, most recently in a 60 zone this afternoon. And signs don't need to specify who is operating the van.

    Man up and accept you were speeding.

    I regularly see marked Go Safe vans in 80km zones......


  • #18
    Irish_Elect_Eng
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,260 ✭✭✭Irish_Elect_Eng


    In several areas around Galway the same camera van zone has 50/60/80 limits along parts of the same zone and the vans can regularly be seen in any part of the Zone


  • #19
    ironclaw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,004 ✭✭✭ironclaw


    Where we you caught exactly?


  • #20
    jprboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭jprboy


    ironclaw wrote: »
    Where we you caught exactly?

    Between Freshford & Kilkenny - R693


  • #21
    -Corkie-
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,025 ✭✭✭✭-Corkie-


    jprboy wrote: »
    Between Freshford & Kilkenny - R693

    The go safe vans do not operate on that road according to the map. It was obviously a Garda gatso van that caught you, hence no markings as I said in my first post.


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  • #22
    jprboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭jprboy


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    The go safe vans do not operate on that road according to the map. It was obviously a Garda gatso van that caught you, hence no markings as I said in my first post.

    You're right, Corkie. I checked the map location map when it was first released and what I thought was a Go Safe zone is, on closer inspection now, the local road between Threecastles on the R693 and the N77.

    Right, where's my laser card ...... :rolleyes:


  • #23
    Our man in Havana
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,473 ✭✭✭✭Our man in Havana


    That location was always a regular spot for the Gatso van out of Kilkenny station long before Go Safe ever existed.


  • #24
    MugMugs
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,875 ✭✭✭✭MugMugs


    -Corkie- wrote: »
    jprboy wrote: »
    Where I was allegedly ;) caught........ 80km ... why does it matter?

    The reason I ask is that the go safe vans dont really appear in 50/60 zones. Was the road signposted that there was go safe vans operating in the area???

    You should visit the N2 dude. Or Drogheda. Nothing but 50/60 monitoring.


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