The X-Factor U.S.A/U.K Love it or hate it and why?

The Jammy dodger

Poll coming in a minute.

Do you Love X-Factor or hate it? and why? I'm undecided. I think it's a great way to find talent and they are doing what every other musical scout for a record company does in a day. But what I dont like about it is the using of human beings for entertainment, to make fun of them and they dont offer that much constructive criticism, all they do is make fun of the contestents. yet I still watch it.

So What's your verdict?

El Guapo!

Tripe

hondasam

Sometimes I love it, Sometimes I hate it but most of the time i'm undecided. like now.

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Dean09 wrote: »

Tripe

Why do you think it's tripe Dean?

admiralofthefleet

biggest load of bollox on the telly, im sick of people asking me 'oh did you such and such on the x factor'?
no i didnt now fuck off

These shows are primarily for making fun of people, giving them a stage for us to laugh at the dim-witted, but on the flipside of this, is the fact that it gives people who have amazing talent to be recognized for this where they may not have been before.

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The Jammy dodger

Deleted User wrote: »

These shows are primarily for making fun of people, giving them a stage for us to laugh at the dim-witted, but on the flipside of this, is the fact that it gives people who have amazing talent to be recognized for this where they may not have been before.

Good answer. I think they should filter out all the bad acts and just present the good ones instead of making fun of those who they know really cant perform or sing at all. The show would be taken more seriously in my opinion.

The Jammy dodger

Chuck Stone wrote: »

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I see a lot of threads in here that should be in their natural habitat i.e forums but they are not. But if the mod feels the desperate need to move then so be it. It's just that the majority of the country post in this part of the forum and I'm looking for a lot of answers to my question.

CoolHat

Hate it.

Only for immature or stupid people. Yes I actually think that.

The Jammy dodger

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Good answer. I think they should filter out all the bad acts and just present the good ones instead of making fun of those who they know really cant perform or sing at all. The show would be taken more seriously in my opinion.

That is pretty much what the later episodes of these talent shows are - when they've weeded out the duds and are just left with the good acts. At least it's the case with everything but the X Factor, who think it's a good idea to keep in the Jedwards, the Wagners and the Goldies, because they know that people love car crash TV.

El Guapo!

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Why do you think it's tripe Dean?

I can't stomach the whole sob story end of it. Its just so cheesy. And Americans are full of shít anyway so it just makes it all the more cheesy.

Pherekydes

Deleted User wrote: »

These shows are primarily for making fun of people, giving them a stage for us to laugh at the dim-witted, but on the flipside of this, is the fact that it gives people who have amazing talent to be recognized for this where they may not have been before.

Em, like the Grimes twins?

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CoolHat wrote: »

Hate it.

Only for immature or stupid people. Yes I actually think that.

Why do you think this though? what is immature or stupid about the concept of the X-Factor other than what I mentioned ''them using people for the entertainment of the mass so they can laugh at them?''

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Dean09 wrote: »

I can't stomach the whole sob story end of it. Its just so cheesy. And Americans are full of shít anyway so it just makes it all the more cheesy.

yeah I find that part of it to be a bit of a Drama meself, no need for it.

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Pherekydes wrote: »

Em, like the Grimes twins?

Yeah but louis seems to think and I qoute ''it's not all about the singing'' it's about the entertainment they can provide. That just kills the whole concept of it and yet Jedward works for him. I dislike their music but they've got a career, dont ask me how but they have along with Chrystal swing. :eek:

CoolHat

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Why do you think this though? what is immature or stupid about the concept of the X-Factor other than what I mentioned ''them using people for the entertainment of the mass so they can laugh at them?''

As for why?
Lets take immature people. Talk to some 15yo who watches the x-factor he/she thinks its "deadly!" - they dont have the cop on to realise how much fake, BS, staged, load of crap the x-factor is.
As for stupid people. (not immature but stupid) they cant also realise the above too.

However, the x-factor is a great concept. Business side. It rakes in millions of viewers and millions in revenue. While at the same time promoting singers (weather they win or not) so people will buy an album after the season is over. Its such a brilliant concept and I cant knock it in that reason. But the show is a joke.

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CoolHat wrote: »

As for why?
Lets take immature people. Talk to some 15yo who watches the x-factor he/she thinks its "deadly!" - they dont have the cop on to realise how much fake, BS, staged, load of crap the x-factor is.
As for stupid people. (not immature but stupid) they cant also realise the above too.

However, the x-factor is a great concept. Business side. It rakes in millions of viewers and millions in revenue. While at the same time promoting singers (weather they win or not) so people will buy an album after the season is over. Its such a brilliant concept and I cant knock it in that reason. But the show is a joke.

perhaps 15 year olds are unaware of the staging but I know adults who love it and are aware of it being partly staged and acted out. But tune in on the more serious notes.

There is def a filter system in which each contestent must first pass a judge that is not a celeb judge before going on to face the likes of Louis or Simon. This makes me all the more angry to know that rubbish acts are put in front of the x-factor judges for the pure mockery and laughter of the nation. I hate it for that.

dark crystal

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Why do you think this though? what is immature or stupid about the concept of the X-Factor other than what I mentioned ''them using people for the entertainment of the mass so they can laugh at them?''

Rest assured, the same people sneering at the X-Factor viewer are not watching intellectually and educationally stimulating programmes themselves on a Saturday night.

Light entertainment has been around as long as television. People would watch shows like Candid Camera, The Generation Game, Oppurtunity Knocks and That's Life to laugh at and with the general public.

Take such comments with a pinch of salt and enjoy whatever shows entertain you.

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dark crystal wrote: »

Rest assured, the same people sneering at the X-Factor viewer are not watching intellectually and educationally stimulating programmes themselves on a Saturday night.

Light entertainment has been around as long as television. People would watch shows like Candid Camera, The Generation Game, Oppurtunity Knocks and That's Life to laugh at and with the general public.

Take such comments with a pinch of salt and enjoy whatever shows entertain you.

Makes perfect sense

miss molly

so xfactor u.s.a. happened to be on in the background while i was making dinner tonight, did anyone else here national express by the Divine Comedy, very weird.

entropi

Absolutely pure shite excuse for a TV programme, cannot stand it.


Stars In Their Eyes anyone? :pac:

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miss molly wrote: »

so xfactor u.s.a. happened to be on in the background while i was making dinner tonight, did anyone else here national express by the Divine Comedy, very weird.

Nope never heard it. But one of my all time fav bands for sure, would of been nice to hear a beyonce version :pac::D

How are they staged exactly?

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Deleted User wrote: »

How are they staged exactly?

Like....the acts that are terrible are staged by the X-Factor crew. But they genuinely do think they can sing or whatever but they placed there for a reason and most of them deep down inside know they cant sing, but wanna just hop up there either under a dare or for the giggles and to get in front of the judges and wow the nation with their untalented performances

starbelgrade

It's a yes from me.

Amirani

I care far too little about it to actually hate it.

rossie1977

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is the fact that it gives people who have amazing talent to be recognized for this where they may not have been before.

if anyone has amazing musical talent the likes of simon cowell won't be the one to find it thats for sure, do you really think we will see someone of the likes of elvis, michael jackson, the beatles, led zeppelin or hendrix emerging from x-factor..........i won't hold my breath

x-factor is simply a tool to make cowell very rich, he is a smart dude no doubt but x-factor is a hyped up karaoke show, nothing more nothing less.

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rossie1977 wrote: »

if anyone has amazing musical talent the likes of simon cowell won't be the one to find it thats for sure, do you really think we will see someone of the likes of elvis, michael jackson, the beatles, led zeppelin or hendrix emerging from x-factor..........i won't hold my breath

x-factor is simply a tool to make cowell very rich, he is a smart dude no doubt but x-factor is a hyped up karaoke show, nothing more nothing less.

I think X-Factor is geared towards a specific genre though. the 60's-80's had many artists like Madonna emerge and people wrote them songs.

There is the creative bands like the beatles and then there is the talented singer who sings the creative persons songs and does it well. It's entertainment.

Micky Dolenz

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

I see a lot of threads in here that should be in their natural habitat i.e forums but they are not. But if the mod feels the desperate need to move then so be it. It's just that the majority of the country post in this part of the forum and I'm looking for a lot of answers to my question.

I feel the desperate need to close it.