Fireworks, make them legal and get some revenue

Ray Palmer

Every year there are tons of fireworks sold in this country is it about time they were just made leagal. We need the money so why not?

TiGeR KiNgS

Because it simply means your robbing Peter to pay Paul and to add your legalizing fireworks.

Emiko

In Holland, I believe, they're legal, but only around New Years Eve, when it's the only time the Dutch bother with fireworks.

Those crazy Dutch and their sensible ideas.

Sykk

Because the only difference between a grenade and a black cat are it's case.. One is made of metal and the other is made of plastic.

They are dangerous if you get ones that haven't been made properly.

cosmicfart

cus someone wud buy tons of dynamite and blow up parliament

Emiko

cosmicfart wrote: »

cus someone wud buy tons of dynamite and blow up parliament

Fawke off.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Because Irish people are, sorry for saying this, waaaay too irresponsible to use fireowrks.

Laisurg

Wouldn't make a difference really, fireworks are easier to buy than weed.

theTinker

Laisurg wrote: »

Wouldn't make a difference really, fireworks are easier to buy than weed.

Ah, in all fairness. Drugs are always easier to get than explosives. Not by much.
30-60 minutes for drugs, maybe a few hours for fireworks?

Mark200

theTinker wrote: »

Laisurg wrote: »

Wouldn't make a difference really, fireworks are easier to buy than weed.

Ah, in all fairness. Drugs are always easier to get than explosives. Not by much.
30-60 minutes for drugs, maybe a few hours for fireworks?

Depends how many scumbags you're friends with.

My name is URL

Emiko wrote: »

In Holland, I believe, they're legal, but only around New Years Eve, when it's the only time the Dutch bother with fireworks.

Those crazy Dutch and their sensible ideas.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsL-oYvQHY

23 killed & almost 1000 injured

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enschede_fireworks_disaster

theTinker

Mark200 wrote: »

Depends how many scumbags you're friends with.

I always put it down to bad contacts within the explosives industry.

entropi

Well in the last two weeks around my area, someone has had a banger blow up right against their forearm, burning it, and another person had one blow up infront of their face. Agreed with the above comment about irresponsibility.

Emiko

My name is URL wrote: »

23 killed & almost 1000 injured

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enschede_fireworks_disaster

Best just let the Chinese get on with making them so, as any accidental deaths there have little impact on our consciousness.

Apparently the cameraman in that video above died in the explosion.

theTinker

I'm usually for legalizing most things. Very against most nannying.

However, as they are now illegal, and as countless children walk around estates and shopping areas throwing small explosives easily capable of hurting innocents. Also considering that it seems funny to throw them at people who dont want to be near them just to impress thier mates, I'd consider the proliferation of more explosives to be detrimental to some innocent peoples health.

Making them illegal often stops moms n dads from being able to supply thier children with them. Might not stop too many, but it does mean theres no corner shop with a billboard for people without contacts.

I bought my first pack of black cats when i was 15, used 2 of them, 2nd one fuse was a bit short, explosion happened quicker than i anticipated, No harm.. Just scared me into never touching things like that ever again.

I'd pass on the revenue intake for the country on this one.

RichieC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djbQoVpsw4E

Stinicker

Fireworks are regulated in the Republic but are available to pyrotechnics specialists with a licence just not the general public; this is due to their adaptability into explosives and with the troubles in the North. However they sell them in the North so it pretty much defeats the purpose. My uncle used to travel alot to the UK 2 or 3 times each month on Business during the 1990's and would always bring us back fireworks which himself and my dad would then put off for New Years and Halloween. This was before September 11th and he used to bring fireworks in his carryon on the planes! How times have changed!

softmee

Emiko wrote: »

In Holland, I believe, they're legal, but only around New Years Eve, when it's the only time the Dutch bother with fireworks.

Those crazy Dutch and their sensible ideas.

In Poland they are legal as well only around New Years day and you can buy them if you are over 18.
I think New Years day in Ireland is kind of sad without them. It's amazing to see the whole sky covered with fireworks in big cities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCDzWPflClc&feature=related

Tabnabs

It will never happen because of all the elf 'n' safety groups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo

softmee

My name is URL wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsL-oYvQHY

23 killed & almost 1000 injured

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enschede_fireworks_disaster

It's like with mushrooms here -you don't pick them up and eat because there are some poisonous out there.. People have brains to use them and to be safe - don't stop doing something because there might be a risk, just use your brain and make it safe!

DjFlin

Legalization would decrease the chances of getting a bad batch of fireworks through regulation.

On the other hand, it doesn't really matter if a f*cking idiot gets a good firework or a bad one, he's still a f*cking idiot.

Ray Palmer

People really seem to think that they aren't about. Maybe not in rural areas but they are easily got in the cities and having them unregulated is not stopping anything. Regulated fireworks works fine elsewhere we might as well do it here as having them as illegal is stopping nothing.

partyatmygaff

softmee wrote: »

It's like with mushrooms here -you don't pick them up and eat because there are some poisonous out there.. People have brains to use them and to be safe - don't stop doing something because there might be a risk, just use your brain and make it safe!

The whole point of banning fireworks isn't to restrict people's liberties. It's to attempt to protect people from irresponsible idiots who think throwing explosives at people counts as a joke.

BobMc

i'd vote legalize for certain times, ie halloween, new years, etc, they are legal in canada too, couple years ago while visiting friends I ordered $300 worth of them before I left ireland had them shipped to a friends house I'd be staying in, we brought them up to cottage country and set them off on the beach one night lasted about 30 mins, when we where done there was loads of clapping from all the people who'd been watchin from their cottages, they can be fun if used correctly, but I would also agree that some messing and blaggarding would happen here

theyre good value too check out http://www.kaboom.com/ (sorry mods if rule breaking no affiliation) cant wait for my next trip to do some more

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Sykk wrote: »

Because the only difference between a grenade and a black cat are it's case.. One is made of metal and the other is made of plastic.

They are dangerous if you get ones that haven't been made properly.

Yeah, because they are illegal, there is no chance of that happening

softmee wrote: »

In Poland they are legal as well only around New Years day and you can buy them if you are over 18.
I think New Years day in Ireland is kind of sad without them. It's amazing to see the whole sky covered with fireworks in big cities.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCDzWPflClc&feature=related

Yeah, I never bothered using them here, but was in Poland for new years a few years ago and the amount in the supermarkets were very tempting. Was good fun. Having said that we are a group of adults..

They also turn on the air raid sirens for midnight, which is a little bit eery.

Savage Tyrant

I used to put bangers in glass milk bottles. Tape them to windows in the school grounds at weekends. Stick them through people's letterboxes.
And I was certainly nowhere near the worst of the younglads running around my town back then.
They are dangerous and certainly shouldn't be in the hands of irresponsible kids.
Infact those bangers/black cats have no other use other than to cause a nuisance.
All fun and games till someone loses an eye. Or their fingers. Or their cat.

smk89

Even if you do legalise think of the amount of money spent on treating burns from them

cherryghost

Legalize and consumers must apply for a fireworks licence. Simples

RichieC

partyatmygaff wrote: »

The whole point of banning fireworks isn't to restrict people's liberties. It's to attempt to protect people from irresponsible idiots who think throwing explosives at people counts as a joke.

the ban is pointless, I could knock together a banger more powerful than you buy with household items and about a half hours work.

Batsy

I didn't even know that fireworks were illegal in Ireland.

softmee

elviscostello wrote: »

They also turn on the air raid sirens for midnight, which is a little bit eery.

Never heard them where I used to live!

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softmee wrote: »

Never heard them where I used to live!

Musn't do it everywhere then!

Tayla

softmee wrote: »

It's like with mushrooms here -you don't pick them up and eat because there are some poisonous out there.. People have brains to use them and to be safe - don't stop doing something because there might be a risk, just use your brain and make it safe!

The difference with eating mushrooms is you can only harm yourself, if people use fireworks they can harm themselves and also others around them.

I would hate to see them legalized.

Immaculate Pasta

I'm not that fussed about legalising them. I see enough explosions on the tele on the days leading up to 12th July and that's enough for me

RichieC

Tayla wrote: »

I would hate to see them legalized.

what difference does it make? oh yea, only criminals profit from their sales, I love living in a country with such vision.

softmee

Tayla wrote: »

The difference with eating mushrooms is you can only harm yourself, if people use fireworks they can harm themselves and also others around them.

I would hate to see them legalized.

-and I hate beeing treated like and idiot and be forbidden to do things only because some people have no brains. Maybe alcohol should be prohibited too, because alcoholics harm not only themselves but their families too!
(and knifes! think how many people could harm you with a knife!)

Crazy Horse 6

Savage Tyrant wrote: »

I used to put bangers in glass milk bottles. Tape them to windows in the school grounds at weekends. Stick them through people's letterboxes.
And I was certainly nowhere near the worst of the younglads running around my town back then.
They are dangerous and certainly shouldn't be in the hands of irresponsible kids.
Infact those bangers/black cats have no other use other than to cause a nuisance.
All fun and games till someone loses an eye. Or their fingers. Or their cat.

You sir are a fckin idiot. Put them in peoples letterboxes? What if the carpet set fire and the house burned down with people inside. Gobsh1te

User banned.

AeoNGriM

Fireworks Weed, make them it legal and get some revenue

FYP

softmee

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

You sir are a fckin idiot. Put them in peoples letterboxes? What if the carpet set fire and the house burned down with people inside. Gobsh1te

Why you call him idiot? He said he thinks they are dangerous and he did it when he was a kid!

charlemont

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Because Irish people are, sorry for saying this, waaaay too irresponsible to use fireowrks.

Couldn't trust an Irish person with a scissors, sure.

Savage Tyrant

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

You sir are a fckin idiot. Put them in peoples letterboxes? What if the carpet set fire and the house burned down with people inside. Gobsh1te

Yes. I was an idiotic kid. I see that now. Hence the actual point of my post, the one that obviously sailed high on over your head there, that they should not be in the hands of kids who haven't the foresight to see the potential consequences of their "messing around".

Straight Talker

I do think it would be best to legalise them for a two week window before halloween.At least then you could clamp down on the dodgy ones and the store would need to keep a record of who purchases them.

Fireworks should be legal, regulated and available to adults only.

'OH BUT PEOPLE WILL BE SETTING THEM OFF LEFT RIGHT AND CENTRE THEY'RE DANGEROUS OMG'

This is the kind of comment from someone who obviously haven't ever been in an Irish city around Hallowe'en or New Year's, or who just wilfully chooses to ignore the fact that everyone uses them anyway.

Prohibition - like with anything else that's fun - does nothing to curb the use or manufacture of fireworks. If you really want to get them, they're trivial to source. Regulation would ensure fireworks are manufactured to high standards and that comprehensive safety instructions (i.e. not written in Mandarin or Engrish) are available to all. You probably wouldn't see an increase in use.

If people blow their hands off, so what? The state should stop wasting its time, trying to legislate to protect idiots from themselves.

Laisurg

theTinker wrote: »

Ah, in all fairness. Drugs are always easier to get than explosives. Not by much.
30-60 minutes for drugs, maybe a few hours for fireworks?

Or a trip to someones house, never heard of anyone getting fireworks delivered to them.

Mark200 wrote: »

Depends how many scumbags you're friends with.

Not really, Never known anyone who sold fireworks who i would consider a scumbag (although I'm sure a good few do), then again that term along with knacker is thrown around very often.

cocoshovel

Ikky Poo2 wrote: »

Because Irish people are, sorry for saying this, waaaay too irresponsible to use fireowrks.

Pretty much this. The second they were legalized the whole country would just explode.

insomniac32

They should be legalised. Ive bought and used them every year without any problem. The people arguing against it are the usual kill joys who exaggerate the danger. Of course if theyre misused they can cause serious injury but the same can be said of anything. Legalisation would result in regulation resulting in safe fireworks which would only cause injury if misused (in which case you deserve what you get for being a twat). Of course they should only be accessible to adults. If these adults misuse them and cause injury to themselves then thats just too bad. Regardless of whether theyre legal or not, people will buy them anyway. At least if they can buy them in a shop the government can raise some additional VAT.

Naomi00

Eh, no thanks.

1st and 2nd years from the school beside mine throw bangers at people outside my school nearly every day and set them off during school time. It's so annoying and this will keep going on for a few months. It used to only be around Halloween but it's been going on since September this year. It's quite a small town too, so it's not an unusual example and probably happpens in a lot of places.

So would I like those annoying little fcukers to be allowed buy even more, worse ones? Not a hope :mad:

Temptamperu

Naomi00 wrote: »

Eh, no thanks.

1st and 2nd years from the school beside mine throw bangers at people outside my school nearly every day and set them off during school time. It's so annoying and this will keep going on for a few months. It used to only be around Halloween but it's been going on since September this year. It's quite a small town too, so it's not an unusual example and probably happpens in a lot of places.

So would I like those annoying little fcukers to be allowed buy even more, worse ones? Not a hope :mad:

Thats kids, most places that have legal fireworks sell to adults.

Naomi00

Temptamperu wrote: »

Thats kids, most places that have legal fireworks sell to adults.

That's what people say, but they could get an 18+ year old to buy them some in two minutes if they wanted. That's how they get drink, how would getting fireworks be any different? And anyway if fireworks were legal it would make them a lot more common therefore easier for underage kids to get them.

Temptamperu

Naomi00 wrote: »

That's what people say, but they could get an 18+ year old to buy them some in two minutes if they wanted. That's how they get drink, how would getting fireworks be any different? And anyway if fireworks were legal it would make them a lot more common therefore easier for underage kids to get them.

Do you know how easy they are to get now?

Chuck Stone

I absolutely hate the idea of everyone having to apply for a government licence.

So we'd have a department of fireworks with gubberment bureaucrats cross referencing with the the police and the dept of health to see if people had criminal records, a weak heart or high cholesterol or some shit?

More legalize and less patronize.