The nokia N9

jimmynokia

THE nokia N9 has started shipping but will anybody bother?
Its meant to be nokias flagship phone but nokia have lost a huge market share in the last 12 months

http://press.nokia.com/2011/09/27/nokia-n9-begins-shipping/

http://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CDoQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fswipe.nokia.com%2F&ei=lQCCTvSQNe6W0QXHnvjJAQ&usg=AFQjCNFX25MX4wWRbOEQpiBCsYLjS3ee7A&sig2=zpGCY3gX1RPiBpDYDTysSQ



Espoo, Finland - The Nokia N9, designed for people who appreciate exceptional design and craftsmanship as well as the latest smartphone technology, has begun shipping to customers and stores.

"Since we announced the Nokia N9 in June this year, the feedback that it has gotten from discerning and avid smartphone users across the world has been nothing short of fantastic," said Ilari Nurmi, Vice President of Marketing, Nokia. "With the innovations in industrial design, user interface, and the Qt developer experience, the Nokia N9 sets the bar for how natural technology can feel, and represents the first in a number of products from Nokia that will be brought to life in similar fashion."

The beautifully designed Nokia N9 features an intuitive user interface that's controlled with a simple swipe. With no home key, there's more room for apps to shine. Three home views - Applications, Events and Live Applications - enable people to navigate through the smartphone easily and get to their favourite content faster. Other features include:



· 3.9-inch AMOLED screenmade from scratch-resistant curved
glass

· Easy single-tap pairing with NFC-enabled accessories such as
the Nokia Play 360 wireless speaker and sharing of content
through NFC technology


Nokia N9 image

· An 8-megapixel Carl Zeiss autofocus sensor and wide-angle lens for HD-quality video and photo capture, and large lens aperture for great camera performance even in low-lighting conditions; easy capture and share of images and videos with social networks

· Mobile Internet radio*, with a great range of music out-of-the-box and no fees or account creation necessary, available for the first time as part of the Nokia Music offering; just press play. And the music sounds even better on the first smartphone to come with Dolby Digital Plus decoding and Dolby Headphone post-processing technology.

· Free turn-by-turn drive and walk navigation with voice-guided maps for more than 100 countries and in more than 50 languages

· Top social networking, communication, entertainment and gaming apps preloaded for a hassle-free out-of-the-box experience

· Global and local apps available through Nokia store for further personalization and new discovery opportunities

The Nokia N9 is available in three colours - black, cyan and magenta with 16GB and 64GB storage options to accommodate plenty of content and will be on sale in countries around the world.

The estimated retail price of the Nokia N9 16GB and 64GB is approximately EUR 480 and EUR 560 before applicable taxes or subsidies, with pricing and availability varying from region to region and operator to operator.

To learn more about the Nokia N9, visit http://swipe.nokia.com

Alanstrainor

It's undoubtedly a beautiful piece of hardware, I just don't think it's all that it's cracked up to be. After Nokia release their first WP7 handsets it'll be curtains imo.

KrisW

I just don't think it's all that it's cracked up to be.

Any reasons for that? There's definitely a shortage of apps, and there's the lack of a carrier subsidy, but beyond that, I can't see a major downside.

I really like what Nokia have done for the user experience in this - I think it's as much of a leap forward in UI as Windows Phone was, but unlike WP7, it retains what people are used to, and expect, in a phone.

I think WP7 is very good UI, but it's also very different, and you do need about an hour with it to appreciate that it's also better than iOS/Android and not just "different" from them. Most customers don't spend that much time with a phone before they choose.

But, Nokia's "Sea-Ray" will use the same hardware and case construction, so it should be possible to compare both devices purely on their software and OS.

jimmynokia

No widgets,not on and the battery life is why i won't be buying this time im not going to be the first as usual to test this phone,and after switching to android i would want something dam impressive to take me back to Nokia again.
i seen a video the other day of the C7 and the new 700 which runs on belle and a 1ghz proccessor,guess what loaded web pages faster,the C7 could not believe it.

how do i change my name btw lol.

Carlos Orange

I would buy one but I'm getting the feeling that Nokia are going out of their way to make the phone a failure. Might just buy it to spite them.

smegheadz

Check out this:

have a look at this nokia N9 variants on navifirm:

059J1Z7: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND BLACK 16GB
059K0W0: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND CYAN 16GB
059K1F5: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND MAGENTA 16GB

source

I will be getting this when i have the chance. Reception is better then many if all other phones currently out. Battery life is also a lot better then i expected people are getting about 2 days with medium to heavy usage. It has a bundle of features out of box so doesn't need 50 apps to make it useable. it's not a flagship device and has never been mentioned by nokia as being their flagship device. there will be support for it but not as much as for wp7. My advice is, if you keep your phones for more then 2-3 years and need apps then this probably isn't for you. if you cycle phones every 1-2 years then it's worth it.

Remember form your own opinion of phones by trying them out instead of just going with the hype, it should be good as a phone too.

KrisW

Just to be clear, those are SIM-free units. The "UK IRELAND" just means that they're pre-installed with British English software and European settings.

There's no evidence yet that any Irish or UK operator is going to take this phone.

jimmynokia

KrisW wrote: »

Just to be clear, those are SIM-free units. The "UK IRELAND" just means that they're pre-installed with British English software and European settings.

There's no evidence yet that any Irish or UK operator is going to take this phone.

No operator is taking this on board as the upcoming sea ray is the same shell but with windows on board and there will be no support for meego.

KrisW

there will be no support for meego.

This is factually true, but irrelevant as the N9 is not MeeGo and never was: MeeGo never made it to a release candidate, so the N9 is based on Nokia's previous Linux-based OS, Maemo. Plus, everything the user sees in it, including the slick "swipe" UI is Nokia's own work, and was never part of the MeeGo project. Nokia will directly support this device for at least three years.

It's an operator opinion at the end of the day. Australia/New Zealand operators are taking the phone. Here's an ad that's been running on Australian TV:
Nokia N9 advert, Australia


The operating system (in the strict technical sense of the phrase) is largely irrelevant - developers aren't coding to the MeeGo APIs, they're writing against Qt, which will be carried on all Nokia's non-Windows devices.

The N9's UI shell (that even allegedly knowledgable tech authors keep calling its Operating System) is nothing more or less than an application suite, one that can be easily put on other devices (the "Nokia Store" app from N9 is already on Symbian as a Beta). What you see in N9 is Nokia's template for all non-Windows Phone devices, so it's not any kind of "dead end".

(OT now, but there's still no guarantee that Windows Phone is going to take off at all, although IMO Nokia can at least do something about WP7's biggest fixable problem: all the existing handsets currently running WP7 have a bland, soulless design style that's completely at odds with the radical design of the UI.)

Plowman

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smegheadz

Plowman wrote: »

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the nokia N900 has had 4 different OSs on it selectable with a bootloader,
that included android, mobile ubuntu, maemo 5, meego.

The N9 is harmattan which was maemo 6, it has been touted as the Qt phone,

You will see the UI with swip, multi-tasking and heavy Qt relience downstream to the "next billion" feature phones so you will have games/apps that are easily ported to meego-harmattan, symbian,s40. there is also a Qt project for android.

Anyone who has been keeping up to date with the N9 will know it is pretty damn good. i'm not going to try and educate anyone here. talk.maemo.org thenokiablog and mynokiablog have plenty of information on it. the maemo forum has people who are using the n9 and will answer any questions if you ask nicely.

Edit:
Also support for it has been quoted a few times by nokia as 2015

jayjay2010

I'd love to get an N9.

After seeing what Apple has to offer with the iPhone 4S, I'm not impressed so I think I'll go for the N9 instead.

If anybody comes across it to buy online please let me know! :rolleyes:

KrisW

None of the usual retailers have prices up yet, but stick around here (or watch the thread) and you'll hear soon enough.

Don't expect it to be cheap. Other markets have it priced between €500 and €700 SIM-free.

jimmynokia

If nokia was cute they would cut the price on this after seen the new iphone 4s

KrisW

Why? iPhone owners have shown that price is not a factor in their buying decisions.

Those $199, $299, $399 prices floating around are with contract on a US carrier. Unlike everyone else, Apple don't quote unsubsidised prices. The unsubsidised price of the new iPhone is in line with the N9's.

You could argue that the N9 is technologically inferior to the iPhone 4S, which is true in many respects, but again, iPhone customers are not technology-led, because they were happy to pay big money for the least-featured device on the market. Oddly, N9 finds itself in what was always the position of the iPhone - smaller spec-sheet numbers, but leading on user experience. (Although, unlike all iPhones, the N9 is said to have truly outstanding radio performance)

The game has moved on since then, though. The buying decision is not based on the device anymore, it's the apps you can run on it.

The only things that would make people change from iPhones (or anything else) to Nokia N9s is a carrier subsidy and wide distribution and a hell of a lot of luck.

jimmynokia

The iphone seems to be more of a status symbol from what i hear ok you have your die hard apple fans in which there is no harm,same as myself once a die hard nokia fan until i moved on as nokia could no longer provide my needs,this N9 might do that.
what im saying is that anybody with an iphone 4 now would be mad to get this and thats the general consensus.
Im SURE your aware of the dissapointment of the spec sheet and the world wanted the iphone 5 not the 4s.
From reading forums the suggestions been made is that those apple fans which are almost out of contract are not taking a 2 year upgrade and its easy to see why,its that or move to android or the nokia N9
ITs also suggested that many would go for the N9 now seen the specs for the iphone 4.
IMO i wont be getting neither ive had a day with the N9 and it fails to give what android gives and i hate to say that.
At the end of the day the consumer will choose whats best for his/her needs and whats available on the market at the time of upgrade.
Nokia may decide to ship to more countries but its going to be available through many websites at a cheaper price most likely the uk than if it was available here through online retailers.

jayjay2010

Just noticed that Expansys have listed the pricing for the 16GB Nokia N9 €614.99 very pricey indeed.

http://www.expansys.ie/nokia-n9-smartphone-black-16gb-219484/

I can only imagine what the 64GB version will cost, perhaps in the region of 750-850 € I reckon.

I will be shopping for one elsewhere... :pac:

jimmynokia

jayjay2010 wrote: »

Just noticed that Expansys have listed the pricing for the 16GB Nokia N9 €614.99 very pricey indeed.

http://www.expansys.ie/nokia-n9-smartphone-black-16gb-219484/

I can only imagine what the 64GB version will cost, perhaps in the region of 750-850 € I reckon.

I will be shopping for one elsewhere... :pac:

rip off

jayjay2010

Interestingly enough, when you hit 'pre-order' the price drops to a reasonable €504.12

AND they have an expected release date: 03 November 11.

I'll be keeping an eye on this!

Plowman

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jimmynokia

its 609 now thats the trouble with expansys up one day down the next never a static price

Sparks

Getting to trial the N9 for the next fortnight. If it holds up against the N900, this may get expensive

jimmynokia

and another to join the line up running on windows..
http://www.gsmarena.com/wprunning_nokia_800_sun_official_photos_surface_n9_meets_its_longlost_twin-news-3255.php



WP Nokia 800 Sun official photos surface, N9 meets its long-lost twin
10 October, 2011 | Comments (5) | Post your comment
Tags: Nokia, Windows Phone, Touch UI, Rumors
Just over two weeks before Nokia World kicks off and the Finnish company unveils its first WP smartphones, we got official photos of one of them. Promo materials of Nokia 800, which was previously rumored as Lumia just popped up, confirming that it will be one of the Nokia smartphones to appear at the event.
As you can see, the Nokia 800 body is almost identical to that of the Nokia N9. We've been playing with MeeGo-running flagship of the Finns for the past few days and we cannot see any reason why using the same design on a WP7 smartphone would be a bad idea.

Nokia 800 Sun leaked promo images
The new leak nicely aligns with previous rumors, so there's every reason to believe that its real. The ads suggest that this will be the Nokia Sun, which as we previously heard will be the marketing name of the Nokia Sea Ray. And, if your memory serves you well, you'd know that the Sea Ray was supposed to be an N9-lookalike.
Specs-wise the Nokia Sun will reportedly offer a 3.7" WVGA AMOLED, Windows Phone Mango, a 1.4GHz CPU and 16GB of onboard storage. The smartphone should hit the shelves in the first half of November.
Is this enough to convince you to switch to a WP-running Nokia? Or are you hoping to see something even more impressive at Nokia World?

mwrf

jimmynokia wrote: »

and another to join the line up running on windows..
http://www.gsmarena.com/wprunning_nokia_800_sun_official_photos_surface_n9_meets_its_longlost_twin-news-3255.php

I wouldn't be surprised if it was cajoled into running Harmattan. That would be cool.

KrisW

I wouldn't be surprised if it was cajoled into running Harmattan

I would. The casing is similar, but the board inside will be completely different.
Microsoft are very rigid about the hardware specifications used, and currently only Qualcomm provide a compliant chipset from its "Snapdragon" System-on-Chip range, so that's the most likeley candidate (although ST-Ericsson recently mentioned working on WindowsPhone hardware)

The N9, on the other hand, uses a Texas Instruments OMAP3630 System-on-Chip, a device quite popular with last year's high-end Android producers (it's in the Moto Droid 2, Galaxy S and LG Optimus Black), as well as being in the developer-only N950.

jimmynokia

there is something else coming this Thursday

AntiVirus

mwrf wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if it was cajoled into running Harmattan. That would be cool.

HTC HD2 will be your best bet, they already have Meego v1.1 running on it.

mwrf

KrisW wrote: »

I would. The casing is similar, but the board inside will be completely different.
Microsoft are very rigid about the hardware specifications used, and currently only Qualcomm provide a compliant chipset from its "Snapdragon" System-on-Chip range, so that's the most likeley candidate (although ST-Ericsson recently mentioned working on WindowsPhone hardware)

The N9, on the other hand, uses a Texas Instruments OMAP3630 System-on-Chip, a device quite popular with last year's high-end Android producers (it's in the Moto Droid 2, Galaxy S and LG Optimus Black), as well as being in the developer-only N950.

Thanks for the info

smegheadz

Sparks wrote: »

Getting to trial the N9 for the next fortnight. If it holds up against the N900, this may get expensive

i want a play with it!!!

the prices around eu for the n9 are all over the place, think switzerland has the best so far. doubt i can get this until after xmas anyway.

jimmynokia

http://www.phonesonline.ie/Product.asp?ProductID=813

799 not a chance...

KrisW

jimmynokia wrote: »

there is something else coming this Thursday

Very cryptic, Jimmy... As it's Wednesday evening already, I'll keep my eyes peeled tomorrow.

jimmynokia

KrisW wrote: »

jimmynokia wrote: »

there is something else coming this Thursday

Very cryptic, Jimmy... As it's Wednesday evening already, I'll keep my eyes peeled tomorrow.

http://conversations.nokia.com/try-something-new/
ok you Tel us what it is then lol.

Carlos Orange

jimmynokia wrote: »

http://www.phonesonline.ie/Product.asp?ProductID=813

799 not a chance...

Nokia really are going all out to sell as few as possible.

jimmynokia

psinno wrote: »

jimmynokia wrote: »

http://www.phonesonline.ie/Product.asp?ProductID=813

799 not a chance...

Nokia really are going all out to sell as few as possible.

posting from phone but here is the Nokia 603 http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-603/features?intc=ncomprod-fw-ilc-na-prindy01_0x0-na-ncompress-eu-en-1todtmta38663

KrisW

Wrong thread, but definitely the right product.

€799 for N9 is pure gouging. I would expect it to drop to €600/€650 before too long.

jimmynokia

simply electronics have it for this
http://www.google.com/aclk?sa=l&ai=Cgx0l3C2XTsq5HoGzhAfvnZCxAqj2_HvetuicJsXA3-QKEAEggKnhESgCUO6B67IEYPXa6oP8DqAB8N3R9gPIAQGpAps9gJ8SS7o-yAMbqgQcT9ClmZFB0uUojVw6XmrwOZFHSypJdIyF-9XkBg&num=1&sig=AOD64_2sKB0l6fkNWtrwXKoUAUkfMt8X5w&adurl=http://electronics.Simplyelectronics.net/search%3Fw%3Dnokia%2BN9%26asug%3D%26currency%3Deur&nh=1&res_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adverts.ie%2Ffor-sale%2Fq_nokia%2BN9%2Fsortby_best_match-desc%2F&rurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.adverts.ie%2F&nm=16&clkt=204&nx=43&ny=9

but i wouldnt buy from them at all..

smegheadz

psinno wrote: »

Nokia really are going all out to sell as few as possible.

you may not have noticed but the website selling it wasn't nokia and that price is one of the highest i've seen in the EU if not the highest.

also it is the no1 selling phone in sweden at the moment and oreorders are through the roof with first batches gone very fast throughout the eu and globally.

also for those who doubt it will get updates, confirmation from nokia developers (work on mfe and email app for meego-harmattan) that an update is on it's way. and they also mentioned being more then one. link

Carlos Orange

smegheadz wrote: »

you may not have noticed but the website selling it wasn't nokia and that price is one of the highest i've seen in the EU if not the highest.

also it is the no1 selling phone in sweden at the moment and oreorders are through the roof with first batches gone very fast throughout the eu and globally.

also for those who doubt it will get updates, confirmation from nokia developers (work on mfe and email app for meego-harmattan) that an update is on it's way. and they also mentioned being more then one. link

I have not seen many places that will ship to Ireland offering prices at all. Feel free to post some links to better prices. Even better post a link to anything indicating Nokia are putting any effort into the phone in Ireland.

KrisW

If you can't get the phone here, it's because the Irish mobile operators have decided not to carry it - Nokia haven't got much to do with it; the operators are their customers, and the customer is always right. End of story.
As for the SIM-free retailers, in Ireland/UK they have always been profiteers, especially with new intros and handsets that the major networks don't carry.

Anyway, for a more realistic estimate: retail pricing in Finland, SIM-free, including VAT, is €599 for 16G models; €699 for the 64Gb one.

In the Nordic countries, customers tend to buy their phones SIM-free, but on contract in Finland you can also get an N9 for around €485, or an extra €23 (or so) per month on top of your calls+data over 24 months (In Irish marketing terms that'd be stated as "free Nokia N9! just €45/month on 24-month contract", but the price is the same)

jimmynokia

No network is carrying this as it resembles the brother due to be announced at nokia world,same shell but windows.
im constantly checking prices and on sites that ship to ireland.
so i will keep things updated.
as for simply electronics i would not buy from them even though they are cheap you most likely end up getting a gray product.
sites to watch as handtech uk and expansys for now ive one or two more im looking into atm and will be again posting up the info.
So far the N9 is getting good reviews and write ups which is good but as for the platform its not so good.
I was speaking to one of the guys today from nokia in finland and there could be an expansion on its scheduled release since its success at launch.

smegheadz

psinno wrote: »

I have not seen many places that will ship to Ireland offering prices at all. Feel free to post some links to better prices. Even better post a link to anything indicating Nokia are putting any effort into the phone in Ireland.

059J1Z7: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND BLACK 16GB
059K0W0: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND CYAN 16GB
059K1F5: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND MAGENTA 16GB

there's the uk ireland varients. there's also a 64gb varient in the updated list (black only)

also as the poster above said, getting it in a different country simfree can be cheaper then the online shops that sell in ireland. there are even people in those countries on the tmo forum buying and selling the phones to other users through ebay.

anything else try the tmo forum or google. only takes 2mins.

Carlos Orange

smegheadz wrote: »

059J1Z7: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND BLACK 16GB
059K0W0: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND CYAN 16GB
059K1F5: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND MAGENTA 16GB

there's the uk ireland varients. there's also a 64gb varient in the updated list (black only)

also as the poster above said, getting it in a different country simfree can be cheaper then the online shops that sell in ireland. there are even people in those countries on the tmo forum buying and selling the phones to other users through ebay.

anything else try the tmo forum or google. only takes 2mins.

People selling stuff on eBay is hardly proof Nokia is putting in effort. Quite the opposite really.

jimmynokia

psinno wrote: »

People selling stuff on eBay is hardly proof Nokia is putting in effort. Quite the opposite really.

i would never buy a phone from ebay

AntiVirus

jimmynokia wrote: »

i would never buy a phone from ebay

There's great savings that you can make if you know what you're buying and who you're buying from. There's plenty of legit companies that sell on ebay.

smegheadz

psinno wrote: »

People selling stuff on eBay is hardly proof Nokia is putting in effort. Quite the opposite really.

you obviously didn't see this so i'll post it for you again.

059J1Z7: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND BLACK 16GB
059K0W0: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND CYAN 16GB
059K1F5: RM-696 NDT UK IRELAND MAGENTA 16GB

notice the word IRELAND. now we all know it's not going to be their main platform or device. nobody is going to hold your hand and get it for you.

it seems you rather moan about it or nokia. me on the other hand couldnt care less if you got it or didn't or complain about it. i know how to get it and know how to not pay stupid prices for it either. i know what to expect. and boohoo nokia aren't pushing it down our throats here in ireland.

if anyone has questions about it and i know the answer i'll gladly help them. if ya just want to cry and complain i'm sure there's plenty of people who'll talk to you too.

KrisW

Nokia aren't putting any effort into advertising this phone in Ireland for a simple reason.

Ask anyone you know where they bought their phone from, and you'll get the first clue. Until an Irish operator takes this device on, there will be no advertising in Ireland.

Like it or not, Nokia's customers are taking Nokia's Windows Phone products instead of N9. I think that's got more to do with Irish and UK people getting their tech news from US-based websites than the relative quality of the products, but we'll see...

KrisW

Flickr gallery comparing the new iPhone 4S and the Nokia N9's cameras. The owner's name is "nokia_fan", which may tell you where they're coming from, but it's a pretty good test, except for the lack of any people. tl;dr? Apple once again have spoiled the iPhone 4S's pretty good camera hardware with some overbearing colour processing.

These are two pretty good cameras, neither one as good as the N8's, but definitely vying for second place.

The iPhone has some strange exposure choices and a golden-yellow colour cast on everything. It might makes dull photos look interesting, but it destroys any kind of subtlety. The worst example is the one picture of a rock that the iPhone camera has turned into some kind of mud-brown:

N9
iPhone 4S

Okay, it's hard to tell what colour the rock really is, but my money is on it being closer to the colour the N9 recorded (plus the N9 picks up the lichen correctly; the iPhone swamps it)

As someone who takes photos for fun, I'd give the nod to the N9, unless you can turn off the iPhone's colour processing, in which case it'd be too close to call.

AntiVirus

GSMArena's Nokia N9 review

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9-review-659.php

jimmynokia

handtech UK taking orders
http://t.co/jasuFQ7N

smegheadz

for anyone whos interesting in where you can buy the n9 and pricing etc.

follow this thread on maemo.org it's updated daily with lots of info on prices etc.

smegheadz

PR 1.1 is available for the N950 with over 3500 features and fixes. PR 1.1 should be released shortly for the N9.