Would you be frozen after death?

El Guapo!

I was just watching a program about people who were cryogenically frozen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cryonics) immediately after they died with the hopes of being brought back to life in the future with advancments in medicine. Its actually a really complicated process and you don't just get put in a bag and thrown into a freezer.
I was looking at websites and there's a couple of places that offer these services including this one which seems to be the leader of the industry http://www.alcor.org/

I know it might seem like a long shot but with the medical industry making major advancements all the time it wouldn't be too much of a stretch of the imagination to think that sometime in the future they may be able to bring you back to life. Especially when you consider the fact that you could be frozen for hundreds or even thousands of years.

So my question is, would you ever consider it?

Ruu_Old

Nope, it is hell fire or nothing for me! \o/

Davidius

The people in the future would probably rather you stay dead so they can use your precious cadaver.

muff03

"Welcome to the world of tomorrow!"

sgb

She want's the heating on all the time, so when she goes I might have her frozen just to get my own back

not yet

I'm fcuking freezing before death (heat broken) does that count..

Captain Chaos

With the current way it's done, no. Too much damage is caused the brain during the freezing process to ever be fixed. That's with both just the head and full body methods.

Can't exactly grow a new brain and stuff it in your old body in the future and upload "yourself" into it.

Need a process where you can be downloaded and stored on a harddrive. A new body is grown from your stemcells and screened for defects. Age as required and your uploaded into the new bod and off you go again.

Don't know about digital purgatory part though.

cruiser178

Captain Chaos wrote: »

With the current way it's done, no. Too much damage is caused the brain during the freezing process to ever be fixed. That's with both just the head and full body methods.

Can't exactly grow a new brain and stuff it in your old body in the future and upload "yourself" into it.

Need a process where you can be downloaded and stored on a harddrive. A new body is grown from your stemcells and screened for defects. Age as required and your uploaded into the new bod and off you go again.

Don't know about digital purgatory part though.

You should post that into the dragon's den tread, I think you could be onto something there :pac:

stoneill

Only if I was frozen in a big vat of liquid nitrogen and then hit with a hammer!

filthymcnasty

No so eventually when they thaw you out in 1000 years time and all you will do is whinge about FF, house prices, and the rest of the ****e- they'd freeze your ass back up again

Captain Chaos

Captain Chaos wrote: »

With the current way it's done, no. Too much damage is caused the brain during the freezing process to ever be fixed. That's with both just the head and full body methods.

Can't exactly grow a new brain and stuff it in your old body in the future and upload "yourself" into it.

Need a process where you can be downloaded and stored on a harddrive. A new body is grown from your stemcells and screened for defects. Age as required and your uploaded into the new bod and off you go again.

Don't know about digital purgatory part though.

So basically we need to become cylons?

themadchef

No, the music gets worse the older i get.

Temptamperu

But how would god find me

AnamGlas

Buried in a graveyard.

In Irish weather.

Of course I'll be fookin' frozen.

Chris P. Bacon

Captain Chaos wrote: »

With the current way it's done, no. Too much damage is caused the brain during the freezing process to ever be fixed. That's with both just the head and full body methods.

Can't exactly grow a new brain and stuff it in your old body in the future and upload "yourself" into it.

Need a process where you can be downloaded and stored on a harddrive. A new body is grown from your stemcells and screened for defects. Age as required and your uploaded into the new bod and off you go again.

Don't know about digital purgatory part though.

There you have it,Dr Zoidberg has told you

Renedick

Hopefully science will have advanced enough that i won't need to be .

cabbage kid

Chris P. Bacon wrote: »

There you have it,Dr Zoidberg has told you

(V) ( ;,,; ) (V)

WOOP WOOP WOOP

af_thefragile

Captain Chaos wrote: »

With the current way it's done, no. Too much damage is caused the brain during the freezing process to ever be fixed. That's with both just the head and full body methods.

Can't exactly grow a new brain and stuff it in your old body in the future and upload "yourself" into it.

Need a process where you can be downloaded and stored on a harddrive. A new body is grown from your stemcells and screened for defects. Age as required and your uploaded into the new bod and off you go again.

Don't know about digital purgatory part though.

There was an episode of X-Files with something like that in it...

4zn76tysfajdxp

Captain Chaos wrote: »

With the current way it's done, no. Too much damage is caused the brain during the freezing process to ever be fixed. That's with both just the head and full body methods.

Can't exactly grow a new brain and stuff it in your old body in the future and upload "yourself" into it.

Need a process where you can be downloaded and stored on a harddrive. A new body is grown from your stemcells and screened for defects. Age as required and your uploaded into the new bod and off you go again.

Don't know about digital purgatory part though.

But then it wouldn't really be you, would it? Like, it could be a perfect carbon copy of you. As far as the copy is concerned, it's still you. But you as far as you're concerned has been destroyed. You.

JONJO THE MISER

Yeah i would, i think in say 200 years time they will be able to bring you back to life.
Sure they are even talking about generation spaceships where they freeze people for hundreds of years until they reach a new planet.

LH Pathe

I like the notion of having some random stranger pass acknowledgement at my headstone, tbh .. As I do in my local

but if yer into that cryogenics carry on, just remember if the golden age has log since passed just where the **** are we headed.. You wanna be a part of that future?! Where they can scan an image of your very thoughts n everything that was good will be even more watered down n done to death . Serious?!

previous user

If it's way in the future, the body grown from your stem cells would be eaten alive by new evolved diseases and viruses, future
microbes would attack your old immune system and your body would become petrified like the aliens at the end of that film War of the worlds.

TheZohanS

And end up like Ryan Tubridy? No thanks.

gsxr1

Look what they did to Mr Bigglesworth

http://pull.imgfave.netdna-cdn.com/image_cache/1311210234273587.png

Captain Chaos

Terrell Powerful Scapegoat wrote: »

But then it wouldn't really be you, would it? Like, it could be a perfect carbon copy of you. As far as the copy is concerned, it's still you. But you as far as you're concerned has been destroyed. You.

Nah, that's cloning you're on about. My way, or theory if you will, work with me here on this.:D

You stick a USB cable in your brain, download all your memories, feeling quirks, life experiences etc. Store it is as a "you file". A new body is grown for you, could be a clone with a blank brain as such, grow till your mid 20s say. Plug the computer with the "you file" up to the new body with the blank brain, upload and off you go. You are still you mentally. Then there would be the mental shock of not needing viagra for another 30 odd years.:D

Princess Peach

No.

I'd be pretty worried what my boyfriend could do with a warm coat, a hairdryer and some of that Durex heat lube.

LH Pathe

Best to be at one again with the earth, this fluke of a habitat is the only true miracle or 'god'

just don't wanna be riddled with maggots n worms n feckin decay ah, to be oblivious when I'm dead

4zn76tysfajdxp

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Nah, that's cloning you're on about. My way, or theory if you will, work with me here on this.:D

You stick a USB cable in your brain, download all your memories, feeling quirks, life experiences etc. Store it is as a "you file". A new body is grown for you, could be a clone with a blank brain as such, grow till your mid 20s say. Plug the computer with the "you file" up to the new body with the blank brain, upload and off you go. You are still you mentally. Then there would be the mental shock of not needing viagra for another 30 odd years.:D

Oh, it'll work for the new body with my mind. As far as it's concerned, everything's dandy. It'll think it's me. And it is me, for all intents and purposes. But me, the original, I'm dead. My memories thoughts and everything live on in a new body, but the original (me) is dead.

El Guapo!

Terrell Powerful Scapegoat wrote: »

Oh, it'll work for the new body with my mind. As far as it's concerned, everything's dandy. It'll think it's me. And it is me, for all intents and purposes. But me, the original, I'm dead. My memories thoughts and everything live on in a new body, but the original (me) is dead.

Only the physical you. But sure who gives a fúck about that, you could request a newer, fresher, bigger muscled, swinging 12incher of a body and just have your mind in it!

RichieC

Yea I can see it in the future.. at the cryo labs.. the two scientists are like "yea we cured him and we could thaw him out... but he was an awful human being who ran sweatshops and slums."

lets just leave it off...

Highfive...and drinks after.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Dean09 wrote: »

Only the physical you. But sure who gives a fúck about that, you could request a newer, fresher, bigger muscled, swinging 12incher of a body and just have your mind in it!

The mental you too. The new you would be a copy of you. Not the original. Mentally and physically. As I said, the copy wouldn't know the difference and would be delighted with the change. But the original (which is you, from your own perspective) is fucked.

El Guapo!

Terrell Powerful Scapegoat wrote: »

The mental you too. The new you would be a copy of you. Not the original. Mentally and physically. As I said, the copy wouldn't know the difference and would be delighted with the change. But the original (which is you, from your own perspective) is fucked.

But the new you wouldn't know the difference so it'd be all good.

Captain Chaos

Dean09 wrote: »

But the new you wouldn't know the difference so it'd be all good.

Except for the old you which would be dead but would not know it's dead. My way of doing it keeps the old you mentally intact but with a shiny new external casing.

4zn76tysfajdxp

Dean09 wrote: »

But the new you wouldn't know the difference so it'd be all good.

But I wouldn't be the new me, I'd be the old me. Not only have I been struck by an unspecific terminal illness but a perfected carbon copy of me is ready to continue living my life once I'm dead. That would really suck. For me.

candy-gal1

Definitly, id do it.
Anything to keep me living forever, or as much as tbh

Saila

no fuvk that :eek:

TheRealSquishy

Imagine waking up though and everyone you knew and loved was dead. The effort of having to make loads of new friends in a thousand years doesn't seem too appealing.

Unless that new Mcdonalds ad comes true and we can just teleport for food, then I'm in :pac:

deathrider

I was thinking the complete oppisite of being frozen when I die. I was thinking of getting central heating in my coffin, along with a Playstation, big-screen TV, a couple of bass bins, some neon lights, and maybe a popcorn maker. I'm going to get your man from Pimp My Ride to do it.

3ndahalfof6

if you pulled the plug on one of these places would it be mass murder.

mikemac

Mel Gibson - Forever Young

A real tearjerker

Kojak

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

if you pulled the plug on one of these places would it be mass murder.

How could it be when they are already dead when initially frozen?

3ndahalfof6

Kojak wrote: »

How could it be when they are already dead when initially frozen?

aye but der not in der heads, so would it be mass defrosting?

come on just answer the question what would it be, stop beating about the bush

stoneill

Princess Peach wrote: »

No.

I'd be pretty worried what my boyfriend could do with a warm coat, a hairdryer and some of that Durex heat lube.

You'd be defrosted at least one a week and then shoved back into the freezer beside the goodfella's pizza and the Ben & Jerry Bohemian Raspberry.

mattjack

I,m thinking of smothering herself tonight,granted I'm half shot..the problem is the freezers nearly full....anyone want some pizza,frozen crappy veg and some cornettos...? no questions asked

J K

mattjack wrote: »

I,m thinking of smothering herself tonight,granted I'm half shot..the problem is the freezers nearly full....anyone want some pizza,frozen crappy veg and some cornettos...? no questions asked

Although your metabolism will slow to close to zero when you enter Hypersleep you will still need some energy supply to your body- you'll need to keep the pizzas and cornettos in there, and just squash yourself in.

Duggy747

I've seen Demolition Man, I don't want to wake up in a world where I have to use 3 seashells instead of toilet paper

mattjack

J K wrote: »

Although your metabolism will slow to close to zero when you enter Hypersleep you will still need some energy supply to your body- you'll need to keep the pizzas and cornettos in there, and just squash yourself in.

not me,ya nut....her

mattjack

J K wrote: »

Although your metabolism will slow to close to zero when you enter Hypersleep you will still need some energy supply to your body- you'll need to keep the pizzas and cornettos in there, and just squash yourself in.

not me,ya nut....her...I'm the ones who's half shot here...pay attention.