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Recommend Me Some Settings Please

  • 23-09-2011 2:08pm
    #1
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Guys,

    Got my 550D yesterday (1st SLR).
    Have to take a photo of my dads shop plaque today, its for inclusion onto a logo of some sort.

    Its about 4 foot X 3 foot and on the wall inside his shop. the shop is well lit and the wall is tiled.

    I plan on taking the pic, cropping it out using Coreldraw/Photoshop and adding address details etc

    But i what im asking is, can anybody shed some light on some manual settings to try?
    I will take a couple on auto also just incase but any advice welcome :D

    Camera 550D
    Lens - 18-55 IS (Kit Lens)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Splinters


    First thing Id recommend is getting rid of that 18-55...its hands down the worst lens I ever owned and was glad to see the back of mine. You dont have to spend big money on a lens either...just spend wisely. Check adverts.ie for a second hand 50mm f1.8. You can usually find them for 60 euro or there abouts. Obviously on a cropped body the 50mm wont be ideal for every shot but for the price its stunning.

    Second piece of advice would be get rid of that 18-55.

    Third would be.... can you guess ;)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Splinters wrote: »
    First thing Id recommend is getting rid of that 18-55...its hands down the worst lens I ever owned and was glad to see the back of mine. You dont have to spend big money on a lens either...just spend wisely. Check adverts.ie for a second hand 50mm f1.8. You can usually find them for 60 euro or there abouts. Obviously on a cropped body the 50mm wont be ideal for every shot but for the price its stunning.

    Second piece of advice would be get rid of that 18-55.

    Third would be.... can you guess ;)

    agh im happy with teh kit lens, till xmas at least. when the GF asks what i want, it'll be a nifty fivty :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,030 ✭✭✭jpb1974


    But i what im asking is, can anybody shed some light on some manual settings to try?

    Best thing would be to put your camera on a tripod for stability.

    Then put the camera into AV mode (Aperture Priority), set the aperture value to about F8, and set your ISO as low as it'll go (100 on the 550D?). Turn off the flash.

    There's not much wrong with the 18-55 lens... it'll do a good job for you, as it did for me back in the day when I was starting out -

    2044807270_0190e8b546_m.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Splinters


    In that case you'll have from now until christmas of continually taking disappointing shots to look forward to, enjoy ;)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Splinters wrote: »
    In that case you'll have from now until christmas of continually taking disappointing shots to look forward to, enjoy ;)

    Jez, you have an issue, don't ya?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Splinters wrote: »
    In that case you'll have from now until christmas of continually taking disappointing shots to look forward to, enjoy ;)

    Heres over 100 pages of dissapointing shots :)

    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthread.php?t=185522&highlight=18-55


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 885 ✭✭✭Splinters


    kceire wrote: »
    Jez, you have an issue, don't ya?

    Past tense, I HAD an issue.

    Then I sold it and bought a better lens :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 760 ✭✭✭hbr


    kceire wrote: »
    But i what im asking is, can anybody shed some light on some manual settings to try?
    I will take a couple on auto also just incase but any advice welcome :D

    Camera 550D
    Lens - 18-55 IS (Kit Lens)

    Take a few in the auto or semi-auto modes just in case.

    Use a tripod or some firm support. Stop the lens down by 1-2 stops
    to improve sharpness. Somewhere in the range f/8 to f/11 should be
    good. Use ISO-100 to keep noise to a minimum. A reflective brass
    plaque will probably confuse the camera's exposure metering.
    Bracket your exposure to ensure that some of your shots turn
    out right. You can use the exposure bracketing feature of the camera. If
    you are using manual mode, just take a few shots ranging from too dark
    to too bright with several steps in between. Go back and try again
    tomorrow if it doesn't work out :)

    The older 18-55mm Canon lenses weren't great. Newer IS versions are
    very good. Don't just take my word for it. See the sample shots and resolution
    tests here: http://www.photozone.de/Reviews/181-canon-ef-s-18-55mm-f35-56-is-test-report--review?start=1

    From the Photozone reviiew:
    "The center resolution of the lens is extremely high throughout the tested zoom and aperture range and at its sweet spots it matches or exceeds the sensor resolution of the 8mp base DSLR used for testing. Normally you would expect a severe drop off beyond the inner image portion but this is not the case. The border and even the extreme corners remain on a very good level especially at 18mm. This is not unprecedented - the Nikkor AF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED is also darn good - but it's certainly something new for a budget Canon standard zoom lens. Rest assured that you may not be the only one reading this in disbelief. "

    This matches my own experience with the Canon 18-55mm IS kit lens.
    http://pix.ie/corkpix/1658017/size/1200
    http://pix.ie/corkpix/1573580/size/1200
    http://pix.ie/corkpix/1730858/size/800


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,407 ✭✭✭Promac


    The recent 18-55 is a cracking lens to start out with. Some of my best (in my opinion) shots were taken with my kit lens on the 450D.

    Canon aren't gonna put a sh1t lens on an enthusiast-grade camera cause they want to draw that enthusiast in and get him to buy a 5Dii with a 24-70. He won't do that if he constantly takes disappointing shots with his first camera.

    Back on topic - HBR pretty much covered it I reckon.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Thanks lads, i tried out a few shots, the auto systme actually put the ISO at 100 too. Its not actually a brass plaque as such, its an oval piece of glass with blue text on it.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 9,047 CMod ✭✭✭✭CabanSail


    Splinters wrote: »
    First thing Id recommend is getting rid of that 18-55...its hands down the worst lens I ever owned and was glad to see the back of mine. You dont have to spend big money on a lens either...just spend wisely. Check adverts.ie for a second hand 50mm f1.8. You can usually find them for 60 euro or there abouts. Obviously on a cropped body the 50mm wont be ideal for every shot but for the price its stunning.

    Second piece of advice would be get rid of that 18-55.

    Third would be.... can you guess ;)

    ^^ This is poor advice. It is typical of someone with a little experience who has GAS. The kit you have is more than capable of stunning shots. What is needed is a understanding of light & exposure. Couple this with being conversant with your gear &, most importantly, imagination and you will be fine.

    To answer the question you asked.

    If you are taking a sign, then a Tripod is good advice. The next thing is to keep the sensor plane parallel to the sign, this will keep the sides of the sign parallel too.

    You will not require a wide depth of field, so having the aperture open will be fine, but keep it back a couple of stops from the limit will keep the lens close to the sweet spot. Using Av set to the desire Aperture (f5.6 or f8) will be fine.
    Make sure that the speed is at least 1/60th second or faster (if not on a Tripod). If slower see the next point on ISO.

    Keep the ISO as low as possible. 100 is native to Canon I believe, but move up if needed. Up to 400 should be fine, but 100 is best if you have a tripod, as you can slow the shutter speed right down.

    Shoot in RAW and then you can adjust the White Balance when editing. Shoot RAW + Jpeg if not confident yet.

    If using a Tripod, then turn the IS off.

    Good luck & enjoy the new toy.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,357 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Thanks people :D


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