Hole in One - but does it count?

Johnny_Fontane

17th at macreddin, front flag, 151m 7 iron, pitched it about 7 feet passed the hole and ripped it back into the cup....

the only problem was that my first shot was just to the right of the green. It was a beautiful evening, so we said we'd throw down another ball!!

so no '1' on the card....

Macreddin was in savage condition, a serious course. The green were flawless, quite soft but no damage at all. €30 each (including a buggy)

Trampas

2 shot penalty for you using your phone on the course

headmaster

Trampas wrote: »

2 shot penalty for you using your phone on the course

,and the second ball you used would have been your 3rd shot and maybe another penalty for not finding the other ball, so possibly a bogey on your card, definitely not a hole in 1. I'm surprised a golfer would ask the question, how would you mark your card in competition? H'mm, tut tut.

PhilipMarlowe

You're at one with a giant of the game Johnny...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=60595179&postcount=10

ANXIOUS

I think the op was asking if he can count it as a hole in one. Personally i couldn't id always have to mention it was a second ball. Seeing as how conno came up, he has been site banned. The loss of a legend

k.p.h

It's called a "non competitive hole in one". Well done all the same.

randomer

headmaster wrote: »

,and the second ball you used would have been your 3rd shot and maybe another penalty for not finding the other ball, so possibly a bogey on your card, definitely not a hole in 1. I'm surprised a golfer would ask the question, how would you mark your card in competition? H'mm, tut tut.

How could it possibly be a bogey?

Johnny_Fontane

funnily enough I didnt get up and down on my 'actual' ball.

was a bit excited after the hole in one.

Its still a hole in one in my books, but I was disgusted straight after my little dance (a la olazabal) that it wasnt my first shot. I even called it in the air, that it was the best iron I have hit all day.....

thats what so annoying about it, you just cant say it was a hole in one however class it looked!

david

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

17th at macreddin, front flag, 151m 7 iron, pitched it about 7 feet passed the hole and ripped it back into the cup....

the only problem was that my first shot was just to the right of the green. It was a beautiful evening, so we said we'd throw down another ball!!

so no '1' on the card....

Macreddin was in savage condition, a serious course. The green were flawless, quite soft but no damage at all. €30 each (including a buggy)

Hi Johnny,

Glad you enjoyed the course yesterday. The course is indeed looking & playing fantastic.

Although it may not be a '1' on your card, it's definitely a hole-in-one in our books! Congratulations and may it be the first of many for you, have a complimentary fourball on us.. PM me your postal address.

Thanks & Regards,

David Lee
Golf Manager

Macreddin Golf Club

L.O.F.T

david wrote: »

Hi Johnny,

Glad you enjoyed the course yesterday. The course is indeed looking & playing fantastic.

Although it may not be a '1' on your card, it's definitely a hole-in-one in our books! Congratulations and may it be the first of many for you, have a complimentary fourball on us.. PM me your postal address.

Thanks & Regards,

David Lee
Golf Manager

Macreddin Golf Club

Classy touch.

Johnny_Fontane

thats awesome.......

huge thanks to Macreddin....thats great news!

headmaster

I don't think i'll be playing on a course that allows false scores to count. There's a word for that and I think it begins with a C.

dines08

headmaster wrote: »

I don't think i'll be playing on a course that allows false scores to count. There's a word for that and I think it begins with a C.

I sincerely hope you're joking... Another c word comes to mind reading your post Hahahaha

Woodgate

Where's the path of the ball in the dew on the green, if it spun back that far it surely left a trace?:):)

Unglika Norse

I would have been much more impressed had Mr Lee contacted JF by pm and offered the fourball, instead of continuing to use boards to advertise Macreddin

k.p.h

Unglika Norse wrote: »

I would have been much more impressed had Mr Lee contacted JF by pm and offered the fourball, instead of continuing to use boards to advertise Macreddin

Unglika Norse

Very Good, I like that Quite a good likeness to

L.O.F.T

Unglika Norse wrote: »

I would have been much more impressed had Mr Lee contacted JF by pm and offered the fourball, instead of continuing to use boards to advertise Macreddin

When you post a comment like above you deserve a retort. Back off and stop being so miserable.

not yet

setup..........guy gets on singing the praise's of a golf course, and just like magic the manager gets on and offers a free 4 ball. free advertisement more like.

Unglika Norse

Iv'e no problem with a retort, I don't see anything miserable about the comment, it's an opinion, advertising on this board is frownded upon others have been banned for it. I have heard of a guy on this forum who when he heard about members not being able to keep up with there memberships due to finances this year He apparently offered to take care of them through his club by pm, He didn't go plastering on the site promoting his club.
As I said I like the photo and the caption very humerous.

Unglika Norse

not yet wrote: »

setup..........guy gets on singing the praise's of a golf course, and just like magic the manager gets on and offers a free 4 ball. free advertisement more like.

It's not a set up, but it was an oppertune piece of advertising

k.p.h

Unglika Norse wrote: »

Iv'e no problem with a retort, I don't see anything miserable about the comment, it's an opinion, advertising on this board is frownded upon others have been banned for it. I have heard of a guy on this forum who when he heard about members not being able to keep up with there memberships due to finances this year He apparently offered to take care of them through his club by pm, He didn't go plastering on the site promoting his club.
As I said I like the photo and the caption very humerous.

I can see where your coming from actually, but in fairness I wouldn't view this as advertising in the traditional sense. david has been knocking around the forum a good bit recently and genuinely contributing to be fair.

While david has done a few things on here in his capacity as Golf Manager at Macreddin he has done all them to the benefit of boards members. Whether it was excellent rates and a great effort to accommodated the society or free fourballs for the society and now for JF.

Sure these things might be considered good exposure for Macreddin but they are pretty great for us here too. Actually if you were to consider this advertising its the type of advertising I would like to see more of.

Anyway I'm not going to question this to the extent you have, free stuff , sound , appreciate it ..

heavyballs

Unglika Norse wrote: »

I would have been much more impressed had Mr Lee contacted JF by pm and offered the fourball, instead of continuing to use boards to advertise Macreddin

what is your problem?,i think at this stage a few of us here know David personally and have a lot of time for David,he looks after the lads here,he posts here a lot and i have no problem with that at all.
In fact ,i think you're the only person that has a problem with it tbh.............now jog on

headmaster

No heavyballs, he's not the only one.
The original post need not have been posted at all. Any golfer would know the rules and to even consider it as a hole in 1, was the mindset of a cheat. The encouragement of it, by giving a free fourball also smacks of promoting that mindset. All in all, i think this is a advertising that has gone very wrong in the opinion of honest golfers. A triple bogey i'd call it and would also qualify for disqualification.

Me again!

headmaster wrote: »

No heavyballs, he's not the only one.
The original post need not have been posted at all. Any golfer would know the rules and to even consider it as a hole in 1, was the mindset of a cheat. The encouragement of it, by giving a free fourball also smacks of promoting that mindset. All in all, i think this is a advertising that has gone very wrong in the opinion of honest golfers. A triple bogey i'd call it and would also qualify for disqualification.

i saw the same think happen lately and the club pro recognised the shot with a prize even though it was the provisional ball. Lighten up. Methinks you are easily upset!

david

not yet wrote: »

setup..........guy gets on singing the praise's of a golf course, and just like magic the manager gets on and offers a free 4 ball. free advertisement more like.

Congrats to our own member Jack Byrne who also holed out on 17 in the Invitational V-Par yesterday! Similar pin position cut in the left hand bowl.

david

headmaster wrote: »

No heavyballs, he's not the only one.
The original post need not have been posted at all. Any golfer would know the rules and to even consider it as a hole in 1, was the mindset of a cheat. The encouragement of it, by giving a free fourball also smacks of promoting that mindset. All in all, i think this is a advertising that has gone very wrong in the opinion of honest golfers. A triple bogey i'd call it and would also qualify for disqualification.

I'm disappointed with some responses in this thread. I've been contributing to the boards for over 7 years previous to my current job appointment at Macreddin.

My understanding of a hole in one is when a player hits his ball from the tee, into the hole, not necessarily an eagle on their card. Most of us spend a lifetime playing the game (myself included) without ever holing out a tee-shot. It's an occasion to be celebrated regardless of whether it was the first or subsequent attempt on a given hole during a given round.

Time to hit the range Headmaster and stop trolling this forum.

denishurley

headmaster wrote: »

No heavyballs, he's not the only one.
The original post need not have been posted at all. Any golfer would know the rules and to even consider it as a hole in 1, was the mindset of a cheat. The encouragement of it, by giving a free fourball also smacks of promoting that mindset. All in all, i think this is a advertising that has gone very wrong in the opinion of honest golfers. A triple bogey i'd call it and would also qualify for disqualification.

From a casual round?

headmaster

Well, i guess you guys can stay playing pitch and putt if that's your take on the game of Golf. It's not the way to play, or score the game, but if that's the way the game is played and scored in that particular club, myself and others will give it a wide berth. Thank you very much for making golfers wise to your clubs rules. No doubt, plenty of the type of player you require, will be only too happy to hit balls on your course.

Myksyk

headmaster wrote: »

No heavyballs, he's not the only one.
The original post need not have been posted at all. Any golfer would know the rules and to even consider it as a hole in 1, was the mindset of a cheat. The encouragement of it, by giving a free fourball also smacks of promoting that mindset. All in all, i think this is a advertising that has gone very wrong in the opinion of honest golfers. A triple bogey i'd call it and would also qualify for disqualification.

Conno?

Me again!

headmaster wrote: »

Well, i guess you guys can stay playing pitch and putt if that's your take on the game of Golf. It's not the way to play, or score the game, but if that's the way the game is played and scored in that particular club, myself and others will give it a wide berth. Thank you very much for making golfers wise to your clubs rules. No doubt, plenty of the type of player you require, will be only too happy to hit balls on your course.

it was a casual round of golf, no competition, You seem to have an unhealthy gripe against the club. Get off the high horse!

Jul3s

david wrote: »

I'm disappointed with some responses in this thread. I've been contributing to the boards for over 7 years previous to my current job appointment at Macreddin.

My understanding of a hole in one is when a player hits his ball from the tee, into the hole, not necessarily an eagle on their card. Most of us spend a lifetime playing the game (myself included) without ever holing out a tee-shot. It's an occasion to be celebrated regardless of whether it was the first or subsequent attempt on a given hole during a given round.

Time to hit the range Headmaster and stop trolling this forum.

David your understanding of a hole in one is incorrect, the OP did not have a hole in one, he scored three on the hole by holing out with his 2nd tee shot, and calling it a hole in one is at the very least misleading and at its worst it's dishonest and undermines a genuine hole in one.

stockdam

No it's not a hole in one but it's still a very nice feeling hitting a teeshot right into the hole. As for David "advertising"............I have no problem and it was nice gesture so it should be taken as such.

PhilipMarlowe

Holing out with a second ball < holing out with the first ball.
Holing out with first ball in a casual round < holing out in a singles stableford...
Holing out with in a singles stableford < holiing out in a monthly medal...
An ace in a medal < an ace to win your ryder cup match (à la Paul Casey)...
etc.

There are many degrees to a hole in one in my opinion (and I'd love to have any one of them) but they all pale in comparison with getting disqualified from a casual round wich is a pretty epic achievement.

AldilaMan

I played with a guy in a v-par competition who put his 1st ball out of bounds on a par 3. Holed is second ball for a 3 and a win against par (with a shot on the hole). It was the most muted response to a ball going in the cup from the tee. The reason for the muted response was everybody knew it was a hole in three not one.

Johnny_Fontane

incredible some of the stuff I am reading here!

as my initial post states, we dropped down another ball for a bit of craic.....I thought this post might be a bit of craic too!:rolleyes:

denishurley

That's the thing Johnny, always easy forget that the internet is such serious business

AldilaMan

Hole in One - but does it count?

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

17th at macreddin, front flag, 151m 7 iron, pitched it about 7 feet passed the hole and ripped it back into the cup....

the only problem was that my first shot was just to the right of the green. It was a beautiful evening, so we said we'd throw down another ball!!

so no '1' on the card....

Macreddin was in savage condition, a serious course. The green were flawless, quite soft but no damage at all. €30 each (including a buggy)

The title of the post is a question. How were we to know the post was "for the craic ?"

-Chris-

AldilaMan wrote: »

Hole in One - but does it count?


The title of the post is a question. How were we to know the post was "for the craic ?"

I'd have presumed it was for the craic when the OP said

It was a beautiful evening, so we said we'd throw down another ball!!

The casual-ness of the statement would give me the impression of it not being a serious shot.


Also, when they say

so no '1' on the card....

They clearly acknowledge that the shot doesn't count as a hole in one for scoring purposes, and so therefore have already conceded that it doesn't count, despite what the title of the thread says.

Deco1983

Aldilaman -You may want to consider changing that stiff shaft of yours to a more flexible model

AldilaMan

Deco1983 wrote: »

Aldilaman -You may want to consider changing that stiff shaft of yours to a more flexible model

In that case I'll reduce my Viagra dosage accordingly.

stockdam

It's been a funny old thread.

A guy gets a "hole in one" off his second ball which is still a nice feeling and something I've yet to do. Another guy offers him a free round. Others jump up and down pulling their hair out.

blue note

headmaster wrote: »

No heavyballs, he's not the only one.
The original post need not have been posted at all. Any golfer would know the rules and to even consider it as a hole in 1, was the mindset of a cheat. The encouragement of it, by giving a free fourball also smacks of promoting that mindset. All in all, i think this is a advertising that has gone very wrong in the opinion of honest golfers. A triple bogey i'd call it and would also qualify for disqualification.

Are you sure that a triple bogey is sufficient? I think we should chop off his hands to make sure he doesn't try it again.

And is it a hole in one? It is, but with an astrix after it. Well done, I'd love a hole in one*!

*second tee shot was holed for a par.

Kace

PhilipMarlowe wrote: »

Holing out with a second ball < holing out with the first ball.
Holing out with first ball in a casual round < holing out in a singles stableford...
Holing out with in a singles stableford < holiing out in a monthly medal...
An ace in a medal < an ace to win your ryder cup match (à la Paul Casey)...
etc.

There are many degrees to a hole in one in my opinion (and I'd love to have any one of them) but they all pale in comparison with getting disqualified from a casual round wich is a pretty epic achievement.

A good analysis - I would pretty much agree with this. If you were hitting 1000 balls off the tee and you got one of them in, it's a great shot to be celebrated, however it's not quite an ace in your club's Captain's Prize or monthly medal.

I had my first recently in competition and personally it means slightly more to me than if I had it in a casual round with friends, or on my own. Funnily enough I'm even happier that I did it with a nice ProV1x rather than a battered Top Flite - probably because I'll be mounting it on a wee plinth for posterity.

Hanners

I was was there and it happened, fantastic strike, whether or not the previous 15 balls went into the lake it was a holed shot from the tee and I'm delighted for the chap. Course is also in great condition and I would recomend it to anyone as I would Carton, Newlands and a number of others I have played recently in good nick

I do not work for MacReddin or have any involvement in the area. I'm sure some of the conspiracy theorists on this site may be already searching the grassy knoll for me..:eek:

Myksyk

It was a hole in one insofar as the OP put a ball not yet in play straight into the hole. It was obviously a three on the card and a brilliant one at that. Well done lad. And well done David for your generous offer. To the gripers, spare us the tiresome indignation.

Corkblowin

headmaster wrote: »

A triple bogey i'd call it and would also qualify for disqualification.

I'm curious where you got a 6 from. The best I can come up with would be a 4 - 2 stroke penalty for playing the wrong ball (seeing as he did not declare the first unplayable - saying I'll throw another down doesn't count). Since it was a casual round theres no disqualification. Is there a basis for this or were you making up rules too?

As for the OP - great shot - its not a hole in one, but any time you hole out from the tee is a buzz. Hopefully knowing you can do it will help you visualise it happening again.

slave1

If it was me I'd be delighted with the stroke but as it was a 3 on the card it would be a 3 in my mind, hole in one for me is a 1 on the card (still waiting for one).

headmaster

Corkblowin wrote: »

I'm curious where you got a 6 from. The best I can come up with would be a 4 - 2 stroke penalty for playing the wrong ball (seeing as he did not declare the first unplayable - saying I'll throw another down doesn't count). Since it was a casual round theres no disqualification. Is there a basis for this or were you making up rules too?

As for the OP - great shot - its not a hole in one, but any time you hole out from the tee is a buzz. Hopefully knowing you can do it will help you visualise it happening again.

having his phone on the golf course and worse still, taking photographs. I'm now finished with this, if you people want to play the cheaters game, then continue. I would not like to be a playing partner with anyone who thinks and plays golf in this way. End.

Corkblowin

headmaster wrote: »

having his phone on the golf course and worse still, taking photographs. I'm now finished with this, if you people want to play the cheaters game, then continue. I would not like to be a playing partner with anyone who thinks and plays golf in this way. End.

You really need to relax & lighten up mate - golf is not all serious business.

I play plenty of serious competitive golf & enjoy it. I'm the strictest person in the world with a card in my hand. But I have to say some of the best fun I've had on the golf course is on summer evenings after work, with a few mates where we might hit a couple of drives, challenge each other to bunker shots, mess about with some chips & try some things we wouldn't dare in a weekend competition.

Theres enough serious stuff in the world - I play golf as a hobby & for fun.

Deco1983

Headmaster - I heard a rumour that the second ball was tee'd up slightly in front on the tee box markers as well so thats another shot or two at least. Worst again I bet the group probably have a clear picture of this infringement...the game is in ruins,ruins I tells you:rolleyes: