Team Floyd or Team Manny

efb

Nail your colours to the mast folks.

Im team Floyd btw :eek:;)

hsbc

Team Manny

I'm a Floyd man too - sometimes he goes OTT but he's good for the sport and he trains hard...

I think if he does fight Manny he should try keep his mouth shut during his training camp and just do his talking in the ring. If he wins that fight he can talk about greatness all he wants...

cowzerp

Team Manny

I voted team floyd-in my opinion he's the best boxer since sugar ray Leonard

Manny is great too and roach is more likeable than the mayweathers but I can't get my head around his massive muscle gain while staying so lean.

dodderangler

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its pac man all the way cant stand that other idiot pac man will destroy him whenever mayweather grows a pair to fight him:cool:

Mellor

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All the way for me.
Massice respect for Mayweather's ability, I jsut think that he isn't a very likable guy.

cowzerp wrote: »

Manny is great too and roach is more likeable than the mayweathers but I can't get my head around his massive muscle gain while staying so lean.

Serious enough allegation.
Obviosuly I can't comment with certainity, but it was over a long period so no reason why he couldn't remain lean ish. Putting on muscle is small amounts and cutting and associated fat gain in time for the next fight.

Scanlas The 2nd

Team Manny

Mayweather is the best boxer I've ever seen. Saying that I haven't seen all the greats from 40+ years ago box.

Frank Bullitt

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Itts a tough one to call for me but I would go for manny in this one.

Mayweather is amazing to watch in the ring as well, and I think both are the top 2 right now in boxing, but I dont think they will ever meet in the ring.

moneyman

What exactly is the question? Who we think would win if the fight were to happen? If the question is who's side are you on, it's pretty odd. Never get people's infatuation with other people, and defending them regardless of right and wrong.


In boxing terms, as of now I'd have Mayweather slight favourite. I do think Pacquiao has the ability to beat him, though. It's what makes the match-up so mouth watering. IMO, to beat Floyd you have to throw hard combinations and get out of there and out of range. Manny's susceptible to the right hand which Floyd uses really well, so he'd have to limit Floyd's opportunites to win. Ortiz actually had success when he pressured Floyd and threw lots of punches in close. It was when he stood back and tried to box that Floyd won the rounds.


If anyones style is not suited for Floyd it's Pacquiaos. He can get in and out very quick, and we all know about his speed and combinations.

slapbangwallop

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I'm Team Pacman - but think Mayweather would win if they fought.

Scanlas The 2nd

Team Manny

cowzerp wrote: »

I voted team floyd-in my opinion he's the best boxer since sugar ray Leonard

Manny is great too and roach is more likeable than the mayweathers but I can't get my head around his massive muscle gain while staying so lean.

I just read there on wiki that a year later after saying he agreed to tests up until the day before the proposed fight with Floyd, Manny's team admitted that it was a lie. Very suspicious indeed.

magma69

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I'll always tune in to watch Mayweather but I can't cheer for him. He's a grade A cock and his father and Uncle are disgusting individuals too.

VW 1

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slapbangwallop wrote: »

I'm Team Pacman - but think Mayweather would win if they fought.

My sentiments exactly I'm afraid

Scanlas The 2nd

Team Manny

magma69 wrote: »

I'll always tune in to watch Mayweather but I can't cheer for him. He's a grade A cock and his father and Uncle are disgusting individuals too.

I can't help but like him, if you watch him when he's not promoting fights he's quite a charming indivudual.

BlackRoom

Nailing colours to masts leads to the type of retarded reasoning you might find in relation to both boxers on eastsideboxing. Pacroid this, Gayweather that...

I prefer Pacqiuao, he's better for the sport, a modern day warrior but to be honest i'm growing tired of both and can't wait for them to fúck off.

clubwelly

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slapbangwallop wrote: »

I'm Team Pacman - but think Mayweather would win if they fought.

+1 The man is a defensive genius. Just watch his fights without the sound and you see Floyd in all his glory

nacho libre

I prefer watching Floyd Box. He might be an insecure little brat, but he is the master at the art of hitting and not getting hit.

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boxer.fan

I actually like both boxers. Whether one or other is a cock or not doesn't interest me. Both have distinct styles that they have perfected very well and is a joy to watch.

IMO for Floyd to be considered as an all time great he needs to stop retiring and clock up more fights.

Who would win is a tough one, ODLH fought Floyd in a style that resembles Pacman's, and he came close to getting the win. One thing is for certain, I will lose all interest if joe cortez has anything to do with it when it does happen (if ever).

Spazdarn

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I always thought Mayweather would win between the two of them if they faced off, and am a Manny fan solely because I get to see him fight regularly and he always puts on a show.

Though after the Ortiz fight I honestly don't think, Manny's going to be ****ting himself.

3hn2givr7mx1sc

Team Manny

PBF. I know he's a bit of a wanker, but I can't help but like him.

CorkMan

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Manny would win IMO.

Look at him in round 4-7 against Cotto, he was like a machine dismantling him. The speed of the hands and the power, the stamina and the angles. Pacquiao beat Cotto and Margarito, I think Floyd would be nervous if he had to step into the ring with Margarito. Manny has left a path of destruction wherever he went, taking on all comers.

walshb

CorkMan wrote: »

Manny would win IMO.

Look at him in round 4-7 against Cotto, he was like a machine dismantling him. The speed of the hands and the power, the stamina and the angles. Pacquiao beat Cotto and Margarito, I think Floyd would be nervous if he had to step into the ring with Margarito. Manny has left a path of destruction wherever he went, taking on all comers.

Seriously, what is with Margarito that would remotely trouble Floyd? The guy is a mummy.

Pac destroyed him as I predicted. I also picked an over the hill Shane to beat him too.

I loved watching Pac destroy those three fighters, but none are great. Pac is great, and showed some serious skills in beating them all. But, they weren't much of a test.

Give Pac a test and I still think he rises to the occasion. In all my years watching boxing I think Pacman
stands out very high. I reckon he is one of the sports true greats p4p.

cowzerp

Team Manny

PAC is great but weight draining most his opponents is also something I'm suprised nobody is mentioning-de la Hoya was tiny and really drained in his match with pacman, he was huge v mayweather-this was cheating in my opinion, and winning titles at catch weights should not count either.

CorkMan

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Margarito and Cotto were some of the biggest names Pacquiao could have Floyd, if not THE biggest two below Middleweight (bar PBF). Mosley was hardly a challenge, just Pacquiao showing off saying he could beat an opponent that Floyd did beat.

I find it disappointing that Pacman will only fight Marquez and Mosley this year, 2 fighters I would have easily predicted he'd beat before the start of the year. But aside from PBF, who else is there to make a "superstar fight"? Pacquiao could gain a few lb's and fight Sergio Martinez, but who knows.

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

PAC is great but weight draining most his opponents is also something I'm suprised nobody is mentioning-de la Hoya was tiny and really drained in his match with pacman, he was huge v mayweather-this was cheating in my opinion, and winning titles at catch weights should not count either.

Let's be honest, Oscar at 200 lbs wasn't beating Manny. Oscar was past it, (against Forbes he looked very poor) and maybe in 2000 he would have beaten Manny, though I think not.

Margarito was never beating Manny either. The 145 lbs catch for Cotto IMO was poor, but Cotto agreed. I still think that at 147 he loses.

colly10

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cowzerp wrote: »

PAC is great but weight draining most his opponents is also something I'm suprised nobody is mentioning-de la Hoya was tiny and really drained in his match with pacman, he was huge v mayweather-this was cheating in my opinion, and winning titles at catch weights should not count either.

Oscar was a shell when he fought Pac, but that decision was down to Oscar, Pac was not a household name and was a serious underdog in the betting. De La Hoya was the draw and he made the decisions.

He was the only one properly weight drained, Cotto only had to loose a pound from the previous fight, it would have some affect but hardly a major difference.
AM was arguablely drained, 147 for years, had just moved to 154 and had to come down to 150, hard to know how much it affected him. Margarito's best years were behind him at that stage anyway and doesn't have much skill.

Manny has taken a good few easy fights over the last few years. I given him credit for hatton cause he wasn't long at the weight and I give credit for Cotto. I don't really think Manny has much interest in taking on the big challanges these days and I think the same of Floyd

colly10

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CorkMan wrote: »

Pacquiao could gain a few lb's and fight Sergio Martinez, but who knows.

Pac weighed 144 in his last fight and was hydrated at the weigh in, I don't think Martinez makes 160 too easily, it could never happen

CorkMan

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colly10 wrote: »

Pac weighed 144 in his last fight and was hydrated at the weigh in, I don't think Martinez makes 160 too easily, it could never happen

Maybe the boxing commissions could do something. When Margarito fought Manny on the fight night Margarito weighted 15lbs more than Manny. Manny at 144/145 versus a 160lb Martinez would be OK.

Even if their were no titles on the line, it would be a great fight, better than any other welterweight fights for Pacquiao bar Money Mayweather.

Hatton fought Pacquiao straight away after Money May. You can't just give Manny credit for being at that weight for only a bit. Are you saying Hatton was a pushover for Mayweather?

Spazdarn

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Manny and Martinez is a mismatch in size, as a styles fight it would be amazing. People are giving out about Manny weight draining guys and then go and say Martinez will fight him at 160, subsequently doing the same thing, and if Manny wins that's the excuse. I doubt he does to be honest but Martinez is a beast in and around that weight.

One thing I don't get is how people think, Martinez and Floyd is a more suitable match, Floyd is practically the same weight as Manny...

Hatton wasn't that great, I don't attribute his downfall to Floyd giving him a solid beating, it was down to the fact Floyd and Manny were a class above, he didn't look particularly great in some of his fights before hand...

Joe Musashi

I don't support either. I think Mayweather would win if they fought.

colly10

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CorkMan wrote: »

Maybe the boxing commissions could do something. When Margarito fought Manny on the fight night Margarito weighted 15lbs more than Manny. Manny at 144/145 versus a 160lb Martinez would be OK.

Even if their were no titles on the line, it would be a great fight, better than any other welterweight fights for Pacquiao bar Money Mayweather.

Hatton fought Pacquiao straight away after Money May. You can't just give Manny credit for being at that weight for only a bit. Are you saying Hatton was a pushover for Mayweather?

Martinez would weigh in at 160, he would be alot heavier than 160 on the night. Manny would be ko'd as soon as a shot lands.
Hatton was not a pushover for mayweather but hatton had only previously fought at 147 once and didn't look impressive. Just like Bradley is one of the best at 140 but didn't look great at 147, if he moved up in his next fight and fought one of the top guys I wouldnt think it was a brilliant win if they beat him.
Manny moved up in weight and fought dlh, I wouldn't give credit for that but not long after he ko's one of the top fighters at 140 inside 2 rounds, yes I think it's an impressive win.
I understand why you woulnt give credit for it though because you consider weight to be so irrelevant that you think that a Martinez fight would be competitive and have said before that Khan should just jump 2 weight classes to fight alverez at 154

Dr. Greenthumb

Team Manny

Like both boxers but prefer Floyd. I could watch him do pads for hours, the dedication he puts into training is crazy.

I know people who claim his fights are boring but I think they show boxing as a real art. All boxers can stand toe to toe (how long depends on their chin) but not many can dance and weave while landing such a high percentage of their own punches.

Scanlas The 2nd

Team Manny

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

Like both boxers but prefer Floyd. I could watch him do pads for hours, the dedication he puts into training is crazy.

I know people who claim his fights are boring but I think they show boxing as a real art. All boxers can stand toe to toe (how long depends on their chin) but not many can dance and weave while landing such a high percentage of their own punches.

I see Floyd as the Federer of boxing, his performances look elegant and effortless.

cowzerp

Team Manny

Dr. Greenthumb wrote: »

Like both boxers but prefer Floyd. I could watch him do pads for hours, the dedication he puts into training is crazy.

Floyd on pads that we see annoy me, it does not compute to me whats happening!

the coach is doing the work and floyd barely moves his arms, does anyone actually know what there meant to be doing-with roger hitting hios shoulder etc and floyd just moving a couple of inches onto the oncoming pads!

VW 1

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cowzerp wrote: »

Floyd on pads that we see annoy me, it does not compute to me whats happening!

the coach is doing the work and floyd barely moves his arms, does anyone actually know what there meant to be doing-with roger hitting hios shoulder etc and floyd just moving a couple of inches onto the oncoming pads!

Certainly just about the opposite of any pad seession I have ever done

gene_tunney

I perhaps slightly prefer to watch Floyd as he is the pure boxer, but I give Manny a slight edge head-to-head. As to who I want to win if they ever fight (unlikely), I really coudn't care less as long as it's a good fight. So I suppose I'm neutral.

CorkMan

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colly10 wrote: »

Martinez would weigh in at 160, he would be alot heavier than 160 on the night. Manny would be ko'd as soon as a shot lands.
Hatton was not a pushover for mayweather but hatton had only previously fought at 147 once and didn't look impressive. Just like Bradley is one of the best at 140 but didn't look great at 147, if he moved up in his next fight and fought one of the top guys I wouldnt think it was a brilliant win if they beat him.
Manny moved up in weight and fought dlh, I wouldn't give credit for that but not long after he ko's one of the top fighters at 140 inside 2 rounds, yes I think it's an impressive win.
I understand why you woulnt give credit for it though because you consider weight to be so irrelevant that you think that a Martinez fight would be competitive and have said before that Khan should just jump 2 weight classes to fight alverez at 154

I just said the Khan comment because I want him to get KO'd. Alvarez is a brawler.

But with Pacquiao and Martinez, if an 205lbs Holyfield can got 12 rounds with a 235lb Riddick Bowe, Pacquiao can go 12 rounds with Martinez.

colly10

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CorkMan wrote: »

But with Pacquiao and Martinez, if an 205lbs Holyfield can got 12 rounds with a 235lb Riddick Bowe, Pacquiao can go 12 rounds with Martinez.

I dont think it's equivalent, i'm 12 stone, i'd make easier work of an 8 stone fighter than a 16 stone fighter would make of me.
Thats probably why there's a bigger gap in weight between weight classes as you move up.

Spazdarn

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From a pure greedy point of view, I'd like Manny to win, because if Floyd beat him that'd probably be the end of both their careers, no rematch given. If Manny takes his 0, there could be a rematch (Can't see Arum ever turning down that much money) and maybe Floyd wouldn't be so keen to retire if his undefeated streak was gone...

nacho libre

ToiletFusion wrote: »

From a pure greedy point of view, I'd like Manny to win, because if Floyd beat him that'd probably be the end of both their careers, no rematch given. If Manny takes his 0, there could be a rematch (Can't see Arum ever turning down that much money) and maybe Floyd wouldn't be so keen to retire if his undefeated streak was gone...

It would depend on the manner of the defeat. If Floyd was well beaten(say a clean ko), I doubt he'd be keen to rematch. Anyway we all know Floyd priortises his no loss record above all else, so he won't take on a genuine threat to that

barakus

Team Manny

Scanlas The 2nd wrote: »

I can't help but like him, if you watch him when he's not promoting fights he's quite a charming indivudual.

I almost think the 'money' mayweather thing is a bit like a character he plays up to, he loves playing the heel. Ive seen him guest on WWE and apparently hes a fan of it so that might have something to do with it. Makes for entertaining 24/7s thats for sure.

moneyman

Pacquiao has recently said he's agreed to Floyd's drug testing with NO cut off date:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJmlMsU7C7A

MrsStuffings

Team Manny

cowzerp wrote: »

Floyd on pads that we see annoy me, it does not compute to me whats happening!

the coach is doing the work and floyd barely moves his arms, does anyone actually know what there meant to be doing-with roger hitting hios shoulder etc and floyd just moving a couple of inches onto the oncoming pads!

apparently i read somewhere that those clips are ''for the cameras'' sort of stuff.

that the real pad work is done when the 24 7 crew head home and floyd doesnt let the cameras see the real work being done. rightfully so i suppose, you dont want to be giving away the gameplan to the opponent in high definition 720p footage! :P

That_Guy

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I like both. I've seen more of Pacman but I think Floyd is the better boxer. Some of his training videos are excellent too. His pad work is super stuff to watch.

moneyman

That_Guy wrote: »

I like both. I've seen more of Pacman but I think Floyd is the better boxer. Some of his training videos are excellent too. His pad work is super stuff to watch.

Strange facet to pick out as super to watch. It's just Roger hitting his gloves with the pads, Floyd barely moving his hands. Obviously just for the camera, but it's just weird. That's definitely not how his pad work goes when cameras are off, and I don't see how it's good to watch either. Anyone could do it.