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Rising sea levels

  • 20-09-2011 8:29pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone have the opinion this could just be down to humans dumping in the ocean?

    I mean, we have been building boats since 4000bc, and up until the 1700's most of them sank!

    Planes crashing, boats/submarines sinking, underwater facilities, Dumping, reclaiming sea land etc etc etc - it all must add up!!!

    Even with the amount of seacraft on top of the sea it must displace massive amounts of water.

    If we were to raise every piece of debris, waste and structures out of the oceans and take all craft from the waters, anyone think the oceans would receed - even slightly?


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,163 ✭✭✭smk89


    You are truly an intellectual credit to humanity. I don't want to live on this planet anymore


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    I think all the rivers that flow into the sea are having some effect as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,595 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    The coastline was 10 miles lower all over the globe before the Titanic sank.

    Fact!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Just put up signs on beaches saying "No Fat Chicks in the water"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭some random drunk


    Don't be ridiculous! Its all the rain that's to blame! If we could just find a way of stopping it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    ardinn wrote: »
    I mean, we have been building boats since 4000bc, and up until the 1700's most of them sank
    Citation Needed !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    mackg wrote: »
    I think all the rivers that flow into the sea are having some effect as well.

    well, no beacuse the sun sucks it up again. Basic 5th class geography!

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 496 ✭✭Teclo


    You forgot all the suicides and drownings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Im right - you all know it!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    It's just the Whales


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    On that note, here's a question (it's probably a dumb one)..........according to what I learned in school, rain is just water that has been evaporated into the atmosphere and forms clouds and then falls back down again as rain. So if thats true, how is the sea levels rising if its just recycled water? Surely they'd just be rising and lowering at the same rate as the evaporation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    RichieC wrote: »
    the government is contemplating relocating the entire population to man-made islands resembling giant oil rigs.

    "We're considering everything... because we are running out of options," the President of Kiribati, Anote Tong, said yesterday in Auckland, where he is attending the Pacific Islands Forum. He said that his small, impoverished country – where the highest land is no more than two metres above sea level – urgently needed the world to take action on climate change.

    TL;DR Country with no money to spend vast fortune developing massive futuristic structures.

    Stoopid guvurment peeple


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Why don't we just drill a hole at the bottom of the ocean to drain away any excess water?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    Dean09 wrote: »
    On that note, here's a question (it's probably a dumb one)..........according to what I learned in school, rain is just water that has been evaporated into the atmosphere and forms clouds and then falls back down again as rain. So if thats true, how is the sea levels rising if its just recycled water? Surely they'd just be rising and lowering at the same rate as the evaporation.


    I just told you ^^^ up there!!! Its all them pesky planes and boats!!!! I like your style tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Why don't we just drill a hole at the bottom of the ocean to drain away any excess water?

    First sensible idea all day!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 413 ✭✭noxqs


    On that note, here's a question (it's probably a dumb one)..........according to what I learned in school, rain is just water that has been evaporated into the atmosphere and forms clouds and then falls back down again as rain. So if thats true, how is the sea levels rising if its just recycled water? Surely they'd just be rising and lowering at the same rate as the evaporation.

    It is indeed quite dumb. And the answer is: Ice on the Antarctic continent and Greenland currently holds a tremendous amount of water in the form of ice which is not currently a part of the sea water. Ergo; Should it melt, there would be more water in the oceans, which of course, would mean rising water levels. Normally, alot of precipitation would also be accumulated in glaciers and again on Antarctica/Greenland but this is no longer the case to the same degree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    noxqs wrote: »
    It is indeed quite dumb. And the answer is: Ice on the Antarctic continent and Greenland currently holds a tremendous amount of water in the form of ice which is not currently a part of the sea water. Ergo; Should it melt, there would be more water in the oceans, which of course, would mean rising water levels. Normally, alot of precipitation would also be accumulated in glaciers and again on Antarctica/Greenland but this is no longer the case to the same degree.

    Thats crazy talk - get out of my thread with your facts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    noxqs wrote: »
    It is indeed quite dumb.

    :D Cheers!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,019 ✭✭✭KilOit


    Dean09 wrote: »
    On that note, here's a question (it's probably a dumb one)..........according to what I learned in school, rain is just water that has been evaporated into the atmosphere and forms clouds and then falls back down again as rain. So if thats true, how is the sea levels rising if its just recycled water? Surely they'd just be rising and lowering at the same rate as the evaporation.

    Antarctica melting


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Why don't we just drill a hole at the bottom of the ocean to drain away any excess water?

    Australia is quite dry, so that's a great idea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Dean09 wrote: »
    On that note, here's a question (it's probably a dumb one)..........according to what I learned in school, rain is just water that has been evaporated into the atmosphere and forms clouds and then falls back down again as rain. So if thats true, how is the sea levels rising if its just recycled water? Surely they'd just be rising and lowering at the same rate as the evaporation.

    Because the snowcaps and glaciers are melting...

    Floating glaciers don't cause any rise or fall in sea level (Archimedes).
    Its the continental glaciers of Greenland, Canada, Antartica etc. which are melting and causing the oceans to rise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    Ikky Poo2 wrote: »
    well, no beacuse the sun sucks it up again. Basic 5th class geography!

    :eek:

    Like a hoover?

    :pac::pac:

    IB4 that's the brand name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    Where's that "Why do we go to school?" thread from a couple of weeks ago?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Where's that "Why do we go to school?" thread from a couple of weeks ago?

    To be honest I learnt more about this crap from Discovery Channel and the internet than I learnt in school.
    Still won't undermine schools...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Because the snowcaps and glaciers are melting...

    Floating glaciers don't cause any rise or fall in sea level (Archimedes).
    Its the continental glaciers of Greenland, Canada, Antartica etc. which are melting and causing the oceans to rise.

    Yeah cheers, I can't believe I didn't think of that. I'm not normally that dumb I swear! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,516 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    You see we killed off as many whales and fish as we could find in order to offset all the ships we sunk and crap we dumped .
    The Circle of Life continues its a beautiful thing


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭joshrogan


    Build a giant tube and syphon all the water out of the ocean like a fish tank, problem solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,062 ✭✭✭Uriel.


    ardinn wrote: »
    Does anyone have the opinion this could just be down to humans dumping in the ocean?

    Forget the rest of your post and analysis, clearly the reason for the rising sea levels is in your opening paragraph... Centuries of human sh1t pumping into the ocean


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    joshrogan wrote: »
    Build a giant tube and syphon all the water out of the ocean like a fish tank, problem solved.

    Or we could build lots of giant air conditioners to cool the planet and stop the snow from melting... Maybe build a giant freezer in the Arctic or something...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 180 ✭✭Ste_D


    This thread has struck an amazing balance between sarcasm and sheer stupidity :D

    Anyway, the sea level wont rise cuz its full of sponges. :cool:


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've got a better idea, just put all the excess water into the space shuttle and blast it off into space.


















    wait, the space shuttle's been retired! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    I've got a better idea, just put all the excess water into the space shuttle and blast it off into space.


















    wait, the space shuttle's been retired! :rolleyes:

    What age do space shuttles get retirement?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Ste_D wrote: »

    Anyway, the sea level wont rise cuz its full of sponges. :cool:

    But Bob's square pants must be adding to the rise, so it's offset his soakage.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    First thing to do is to ban small boys from beaches.

    Because they will just throw stones into the sea.


    To reduce sea levels we should remove stuff from the sea. Let's start with whales because they are big :pac:

    (from BBC genius):pac:




    But seriously it's not that the sea is rising but that the land is sinking :(
    http://www.herald.ie/news/forget-the-recession-ireland-is-sinking-1905864.html
    IRELAND is slowly sinking, which may worsen the problem of rising sea levels in years to come, a new study has revealed.

    Scientists at Durham University in the UK have produced a map that plots the levels of land uplift and subsidence since the Ice Age.

    The bad news for people in Munster and south Leinster is that southern Ireland, along with Wales and southern and eastern England, are continuing to sink, whilst Scotland is rising.


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  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ardinn wrote: »
    What age do space shuttles get retirement?

    Not sure, but they get to get a bed in an old rockets home!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    we could use nuclear reactors to pump sea water into dammed up valleys

    spirit of Ireland or something


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]



    But seriously it's not that the sea is rising but that the land is sinking :(
    http://www.herald.ie/news/forget-the-recession-ireland-is-sinking-1905864.html

    True, according to this chart, it's stopped rising!
    http://climate4you.com/images/UnivColorado%20MeanSeaLevelSince1992%20With1yrRunningAverage.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Everybody fill up their bathtubs and we'll be fine.

    At least that way we'll all be doing our bit for mother earth, bless.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    or we could remove the salt from the sea.

    this would mean less corrosion of cars and TV aerials near the coast and those on liferafts would have a better chance of survival. Also would mean ships would last longer.

    How ?

    Build a dam at Gibraltar, the med will dry up and the salt will crystalise out. It could be paid for on the treasure that will be found as the waters recede. And tourism especially in Venice. Repeat a couple of times and the sea will be less salty. And this will mean more icebergs and stuff, so less water.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,647 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    or we could remove the salt from the sea.

    this would mean less corrosion of cars and TV aerials near the coast and those on liferafts would have a better chance of survival. Also would mean ships would last longer.

    How ?

    Build a dam at Gibraltar, the med will dry up and the salt will crystalise out. It could be paid for on the treasure that will be found as the waters recede. And tourism especially in Venice. Repeat a couple of times and the sea will be less salty. And this will mean more icebergs and stuff, so less water.
    Unsubstantiated fact:

    I was watching something on TV the other day and it said that there is enough salt in the oceans to form a 500ft thick layer on the surface of the earth.

    That's a lot of fucking salt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    ardinn wrote: »
    I mean, we have been building boats since 4000bc, and up until the 1700's most of them sank!

    Really? Most of them sank? Jaysus, the Vikings must have been a pretty lucky bunch of lads then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,752 ✭✭✭markesmith


    If it wasn't for the Dutch reclaiming all that land...oh wait


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    We need to take action and eat more whales, since the harpoonin slowed down the water has risen. Coincidence ?? I think not !!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,194 ✭✭✭saa


    ardinn wrote: »

    Planes crashing, boats/submarines sinking, underwater facilities, Dumping, reclaiming sea land etc etc etc - it all must add up!!!
    Haha I love the way these two come before Dumping, the first two are truly miniscule in comparison.

    The sea can absorb psychical objects like boats and planes, Oil would be a more substantial problem, I don't worry about "things" objects as such adding up but the pollution more worried about constant general waste polluting the sea's rather than a boat or plane.

    Reminds me isn't there a brewing crisis with space junk, just looking at those images of the amount of junk and satellites orbiting Earth is frightening.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    saa wrote: »
    Reminds me isn't there a brewing crisis with space junk, just looking at those images of the amount of junk and satellites orbiting Earth is frightening.

    It all comes down..... eventually, there's a skip coming down later this week! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14952001


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,246 ✭✭✭ardinn


    saa wrote: »
    Haha I love the way these two come before Dumping, the first two are truly miniscule in comparison.

    The sea can absorb psychical objects like boats and planes, Oil would be a more substantial problem, I don't worry about "things" objects as such adding up but the pollution more worried about constant general waste polluting the sea's rather than a boat or plane.

    Reminds me isn't there a brewing crisis with space junk, just looking at those images of the amount of junk and satellites orbiting Earth is frightening.

    yup, on a serious note - look at this - and look up "great pacific gyre" the turtle in the video swam through a plastic ring and it got stuck, the skeleton is of a bird and the contents of its stomach.



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