If that's the end of the nominations...

Zubeneschamali

I'll be voting:

1) Mary Davis. Never heard of her before the election season, know nothing about her, don't care to learn. She won't win, I'm just voting for her to encourage independents.

2) Michael D. Don't like him, don't like Labour much, but best of a bad lot. Will win.

3) Sean Gallagher. No chance of winning, but I'll encourage independents over the candidates below. I hope he didn't write his website himself. Just look at this sentence:

I believe that as President, working together we can help to create a new community minded, enterprise friendly and socially included Ireland.

It's bordering on illiterate.

4) Gay Mitchell. I've probably voted FG more often than any other party, although I've voted Labour, Green, and Independent too, over the years. I even voted PD once. This guy is my least favourite FG candidate ever. The only reason he's not last is:

5) Martin McGuinness. Terrorist, enemy of the state, complicit in murder, torture, armed robbery etc. etc. etc. The only candidate who could be lower on my list would be Labhras O'Lunacy, and he's not running.

JustinDee

I honestly was put off the whole presidential elections with the inter-party/politician shenannigans. Its a filthy contest. Fergus Finlay's 'Snakes & Ladders' book still stands obviously.

Shows how lucky we are to have two legends in the role. Not one candidate stands out to even come close to either of them in my opinion.
I'll vote in the referenda but as far as the presidential election goes, NONE OF THE ABOVE.

joolsveer

The Joe Duffy phone poll has Martin McGuinness winning by a short head over David Norris.

mike65

If any voting paper screamed for a None of the Above option this is it.

JustinDee

joolsveer wrote: »

The Joe Duffy phone poll has Martin McGuinness winning by a short head over David Norris.

The Joe Duffy poll??? Well, if its on that...lol

DrumSteve

joolsveer wrote: »

The Joe Duffy phone poll has Martin McGuinness winning by a short head over David Norris.

But on a serious note I really hope McGuinness does not win. I'd like to see Michael D win as he is the least worst of them all and i'd say he'd be decent in the role.

aftermn

Watched Pat Kenny's show last night and saw McDowell outline good reasons why McGuinness should not be president.
Pity there wasn't somebody else to make the, admittedly valid, points.
McDowell's PD partners kept the crony capitalists of FF in power. Between them they did more damage to the Irish economy then 50 years of IRA terrorism.
I think we should ask Angela Merkel to stand, she will be out of a job shortly and can at least unite the country, if only in opposition.

Amirani

We should have a "Re-open Nominations" option.

phantom_lord

I think I'll go:

Twee
Davis
Sean
And much as it pains me Mitchell.

Is twee Norris?

Zubeneschamali

Deleted User wrote: »

Is twee Norris?

No, Michael Twee Higgins.

johnsgone

which of them represents modern day ireland

described by 'Senator Zappone he was "quintessentially Irish" and would represent the Republic "in the way we need it most at this time".'
a true modern day leprachaun, its a bit harsh but is he really in touch with what it is to be irish in 2011 after all what does he represent what does michael d represent
arts the gaeltacht .........

johnsgone

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

5) Martin McGuinness. Terrorist, enemy of the state, complicit in murder, torture, armed robbery etc. etc. etc. .

sounds perfect to go meet Nicolas Sarkozy

Fr Tod Umptious

johnsgone wrote: »

which of them represents modern day ireland

.........

Probably Mary Davis

charlemont

Martin McGuinness is by far the most capable of these candidates to be president.

charlemont

DrumSteve wrote: »

But on a serious note I really hope McGuinness does not win. I'd like to see Michael D win as he is the least worst of them all and i'd say he'd be decent in the role.

Michael D will be another Yes Man, Have ye learned anything from the last few years ?

Liam Byrne

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

I'll be voting:

1) Mary Davis. Never heard of her before the election season, know nothing about her, don't care to learn. She won't win, I'm just voting for her to encourage independents.

2) Michael D. Don't like him, don't like Labour much, but best of a bad lot. Will win.

3) Sean Gallagher. No chance of winning, but I'll encourage independents over the candidates below. I hope he didn't write his website himself. Just look at this sentence:

I believe that as President, working together we can help to create a new community minded, enterprise friendly and socially included Ireland.

It's bordering on illiterate.

4) Gay Mitchell. I've probably voted FG more often than any other party, although I've voted Labour, Green, and Independent too, over the years. I even voted PD once. This guy is my least favourite FG candidate ever. The only reason he's not last is:

5) Martin McGuinness. Terrorist, enemy of the state, complicit in murder, torture, armed robbery etc. etc. etc. The only candidate who could be lower on my list would be Labhras O'Lunacy, and he's not running.

Why are you even voting for the last 3 ?

Only vote for the ones you WANT, not the ones you don't want!

cardwizzard

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Why are you even voting for the last 3 ?

Only vote for the ones you WANT, not the ones you don't want!

Well if you look at his reasoning for the first two, the whole lot doesn't make much sense.

I have heard of ABU, but he is in your camp Liam, an ABM.

Zubeneschamali

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Why are you even voting for the last 3 ?
Only vote for the ones you WANT, not the ones you don't want!

No. Always vote all the way to the bottom (or leave just one person blank). Your vote cannot help someone you give a lower rank beat someone you place higher, so there's no downside.

If I leave off Mitchell and McGuinness, and it happens that everyone else is eliminated and it's down to these two, it means my vote doesn't count and I don't care who wins.

But I do. Much as I dislike Mitchell, McGuinness is much worse.

Zubeneschamali

cardwizzard wrote: »

I have heard of ABU, but he is in your camp Liam, an ABM.

Yes, that's the beauty of PR and the transferable vote. Even if you hate all the candidates in an election, you can use your vote to help the one you hate most lose, and the one you hate least win.

Liam Byrne

cardwizzard wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

Why are you even voting for the last 3 ?

Only vote for the ones you WANT, not the ones you don't want!

Well if you look at his reasoning for the first two, the whole lot doesn't make much sense.

I have heard of ABU, but he is in your camp Liam, an ABM.

Shows how much you know :rolleyes:

Norris might be better than McG, but he's an absolute no for me too, making your claim downright ridiculous. If he gets to run, it'll be same disgust from here, as it would be of Ahern had run.

And the parallel of Gay Mitchell's letter doesn't escape me, while anyone associated with "reality" TV is worse than Gaybo, not to mention his FF background.

So I'm AB unsuitable people, and that includes quite a few people.

Zubeneschamali

Liam Byrne wrote: »

So I'm AB unsuitable people, and that includes quite a few people.

So if Davis, Gallagher, Micheal D. and Mitchell get eliminated (unlikely, I know), and we're down to Norris or McGuinness, you don't care which gets in? At all?

Not even a little bit?

Liam Byrne

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Liam Byrne wrote: »

So I'm AB unsuitable people, and that includes quite a few people.

So if Davis, Gallagher, Micheal D. and Mitchell get eliminated (unlikely, I know), and we're down to Norris or McGuinness, you don't care which gets in? At all?

Not even a little bit?

That wasn't the question/claim - the claim was that I was a simplistic ABM.

But it'd be a damn tough call based on my morals - McG's views have done far more damage in the past, while Norris's views would do more damage in the future. But a president can't implement their views, so I'd prefer Norris in that scenario (I think) although I couldn't vote for either and might have to enter politics myself if they were the only two running!

johnsgone

charlemont wrote: »

Martin McGuinness is by far the most capable of these candidates to be president.

his ability as a statesman on on an international stage will never even be considered by the majority of people :rolleyes:

Zubeneschamali

Liam Byrne wrote: »

I'd prefer Norris in that scenario (I think) although I couldn't vote for either and might have to enter politics myself if they were the only two running!

I'm not talking about where they are the only ones running, I'm talking about the last count in the election, if everyone else has been eliminated.

Leaving them both off your ballot because you have problems voting for either means that you are not expressing your preference for Norris, and allowing McGuinness a better chance to win.

Of course, it's vanishingly unlikely that any election will come down to one vote, so your vote is about as likely to matter as you are to win the lotto, but given that you bother to vote at all, if you have even a slight preference, you should vote Norris 5 and McGuinness 6 (or leave 6 out).

Sleepy

johnsgone wrote: »

his ability as a statesman on on an international stage will never even be considered by the majority of people :rolleyes:

There's a good reason for this: the position is almost entirely that of a figurehead and someone with the blood of innocents on their hands cannot be considered a good figurehead, regardless of their qualities as a statesman.

johnsgone

Sleepy wrote: »

There's a good reason for this: the position is almost entirely that of a figurehead and someone with the blood of innocents on their hands cannot be considered a good figurehead, regardless of their qualities as a statesman.

yet he was praised as a figurehead along with robinson this year when obama visited was he not?? i didnt see any riots claiming it was an outrage.......
so much for moving on!!!!

seamus

"Inanimate Carbon Rod" is running in a close second place on the breakingnews.ie poll. While no doubt a lot of them are for the lulz, I think that pretty much sums up the feelings about this election.

More than a quarter of the votes have gone between NOTA and "Inanimate Carbon rod".

charlemont

johnsgone wrote: »

his ability as a statesman on on an international stage will never even be considered by the majority of people :rolleyes:

Do you speak for the majority ?

johngalway

Hmm...

Mitchell
Davis (pretty much just to keep the hope alive for a hat-trick of Marys ).

That's it.

Don't like Michael D, seen him on enough bloody ballot papers already :pac:
Sean Gallagher, stick to Dragons Den.
Wee Martin, sorry, not in the habit of voting for terrorists - past or present.
If Norris gets the nod, won't be voting for him either. His ambition to be abused and the lack of him being abused is a terrible insult to abuse victims. His letter(s) were bad judgement. His exit, then re-entry into the race is more flip flopping.
Dana........... Ah seriously.

Have I left anyone out?

drunkmonkey

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

Leaving them both off your ballot because you have problems voting for either means that you are not expressing your preference for Norris, and allowing McGuinness a better chance to win.

That's the conundrum right there, If you don't want to see Mc Guinness in you have to vote for Norris, I don't want to see Norris in but have to vote for McGuinness to keep Norris out.
Hopefully Norris doesn't get the Nomination, then at least I'll have the option to vote for one of the other candidates.

Zubeneschamali

Zubeneschamali wrote: »

3) Sean Gallagher. No chance of winning, but I'll encourage independents over the candidates below. I hope he didn't write his website himself. Just look at this sentence:

I believe that as President, working together we can help to create a new community minded, enterprise friendly and socially included Ireland.

It's bordering on illiterate.

I posted that a month ago. Since then, SG has shot up the charts to #1, lost my #3, and altered that quote on his web page to read:

I believe that I, as President, working with the people, can help to create a new, community-minded, enterprise-friendly and socially-included IrelandThis is the Ireland I want to create.

Which is almost as careless as the first effort.

Godofhellfire

what's Mary Robinson up to these days or could we just get Mary McAleese back again? I really don't fancy voting for anyone in the current line up.