Britain to legalise same sex marriage

baby and crumble

http://www.thejournal.ie/britain-to-legalise-same-sex-marriage-229275-Sep2011/

Well well well...

As far as I understand it, due to the Good Friday agreement, we'll have to bring in equivalent legislation within a certain timeframe after this, correct? Ok, so it might mean we're pushed into same sex marriage, rather than our politicians pushing for it, but still...

Way to go!

dreamer_ire

Who would have thought that Irish lgb would have something to be thankful to a Tory government for!

Sir Ophiuchus

baby and crumble wrote: »

As far as I understand it, due to the Good Friday agreement, we'll have to bring in equivalent legislation within a certain timeframe after this, correct?

That's great if so, but could you explain? I don't quite understand how that works, law-wise.

Hogzy

baby and crumble wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/britain-to-legalise-same-sex-marriage-229275-Sep2011/


As far as I understand it, due to the Good Friday agreement, we'll have to bring in equivalent legislation within a certain timeframe after this, correct?

So your suggesting the Good Friday agreement is suppreme to our constitution. Get real.

The only way Same sex marriage can come into this country is by referendum. The constitution says that marriage is between a man and a woman, The only way the constitution can be amended is via referendum. The Good Friday Agreement has nothing to do with Ireland recognising UK law.

Annasopra

baby and crumble wrote: »

http://www.thejournal.ie/britain-to-legalise-same-sex-marriage-229275-Sep2011/

Well well well...

As far as I understand it, due to the Good Friday agreement, we'll have to bring in equivalent legislation within a certain timeframe after this, correct? Ok, so it might mean we're pushed into same sex marriage, rather than our politicians pushing for it, but still...

I don't think it's that simple at all -

rainbow kirby

Hogzy wrote: »

The constitution says that marriage is between a man and a woman

Actually go and read the constitution, it does not explicitly state at any point that marriage is defined as a "one man, one woman" institution, and in the Irish-language version (which is the official version) the word used is "teaghlach", which is usually taken to mean "household".

Conor30

The UK, Australia and Finland look like countries to join a growing list of nations that have marriage equality: Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Belgium, Holland, Portugal, Spain, Argentina, Canada and South Africa.

TylerIE

Hogzy wrote: »

So your suggesting the Good Friday agreement is suppreme to our constitution. Get real.

The only way Same sex marriage can come into this country is by referendum. The constitution says that marriage is between a man and a woman, The only way the constitution can be amended is via referendum. The Good Friday Agreement has nothing to do with Ireland recognising UK law.

Rainbow Kirby has already explained, your understanding of the constitution is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc

The KAL case may also bring in equality, the Constitutional Convention may result in it being brought in, or failing either of those then a referendum.

TylerIE

Per Sinn Fein LGBT, quoting the Guardian, it wont cover Scotland or Northern Ireland

Conor30

TylerIE wrote: »

Per Sinn Fein LGBT, quoting the Guardian, it wont cover Scotland or Northern Ireland

Just noticed that. It'll affect England & Wales. Scotland's SNP are apparently keen to allow marriage equality in Scotland though.

baby and crumble

Hogzy wrote: »

So your suggesting the Good Friday agreement is suppreme to our constitution. Get real.

The only way Same sex marriage can come into this country is by referendum. The constitution says that marriage is between a man and a woman, The only way the constitution can be amended is via referendum. The Good Friday Agreement has nothing to do with Ireland recognising UK law.

Ok, ok, no need for the aggression, I wasn't sure, that's why I asked, "am I correct?" in my post? Jeez.

Annasopra

TylerIE wrote: »

Per Sinn Fein LGBT, quoting the Guardian, it wont cover Scotland or Northern Ireland

And if it's not bought into NI then we can definitely rule out the good Friday agreement having any effect. The good Friday agreement insisted that Ireland and Northern Ireland should have equivalent laws in human rights - I don't think this is binding though.

Shakti

Seeing as the British of old were responsible for leaving behind many colonial anti-gay laws across half the planet. Its more than nice to see the British of today making an effort to repeal these laws now.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/elton-john-tells-world-leaders-stop-antigay-discrimination-2353158.html

cgcsb

Hogzy wrote: »

The constitution says that marriage is between a man and a woman.

incorrect.