Decided to buy a tag

speeding · 17-09-2011 8:40pm #1

Hi Guys

Im off on holidays to New York next week. I've wanted to add a tag to my collection for a long time now. I've decided on one of these two. Just wondered if anyone has any opinions on them and the prices they're listed for there. Of course i'm going to try and shop around. I heard there was a tag retail outlet in woodbury commons too.

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=439760&CategoryID=57386&LinkType=#fn=sp%3D1%26spc%3D1451

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=439762&CategoryID=57386&LinkType=#fn=sp%3D1%26spc%3D1451

Thanks for any input :-)

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 8:57pm

What's your budget? There is a Tag boutique at Woodbury Common and since it's outside NYC you will pay less taxes.

peasant · 17-09-2011 8:57pm

No opinions on price (no idea about higher end watch prices), just an opinion about choice.
If this is going to end up being a dresswatch for rare-ish occasions, I'd go for the white/silver one as it is more subtle/elegant. For a daily wearer I'd pick the black one, it's so much more legible.

Very nice looking watches, the both of them.

speeding · 17-09-2011 9:03pm

Thanks guys. Yep it's going to be for daily wear. I'll definitely check out the selection in woodbury commons. Just wondering with regard to depreciation. This is going to be the first time i'll have splashed this much money on a watch. Will it lose alot of value in 12 months ??

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 9:03pm

Leo wore that particular model in Inception.
http://www.watch-id.com/sighting/automatic/tag-heuer-carrera-leonardo-dicaprio-inception.html

Very nice classic look IMO. I prefer the black faced version myself. This can be got for slot cheaper through amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&x=0&ref_=nb_sb_noss&fsc=-1&ih=1_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_0_0.533_1&y=0&field-keywords=TAG%20Heuer%20Carrera%20Automatic%20WV211B.BA0787&url=search-alias%3Daps

Not sure if it's possible to have it shipped to your hotel.

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 9:07pm

speeding wrote: »

Thanks guys. Yep it's going to be for daily wear. I'll definitely check out the selection in woodbury commons. Just wondering with regard to depreciation. This is going to be the first time i'll have splashed this much money on a watch. Will it lose alot of value in 12 months ??

It's always possible that it can be bought cheaper second hand in 12 months. But when your spending money on a watch unless your buying for future investment value don't worry what it will cost in 12 months. Through plenty of research you will find that watches can depreciate in the short term but if maintained in a good condition it may appreciate over the long term.

speeding · 17-09-2011 9:09pm

wow that's a huge difference in price right there. It'd be a bit risky i guess though trying to get delivery to the hotel. For a saving like that i'll probably consider it. Thanks

marcus1971 · 17-09-2011 9:25pm

speeding wrote: »

Hi Guys

Im off on holidays to New York next week. I've wanted to add a tag to my collection for a long time now. I've decided on one of these two. Just wondered if anyone has any opinions on them and the prices they're listed for there. Of course i'm going to try and shop around. I heard there was a tag retail outlet in woodbury commons too.

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=439760&CategoryID=57386&LinkType=#fn=sp%3D1%26spc%3D1451

http://www1.macys.com/catalog/product/index.ognc?ID=439762&CategoryID=57386&LinkType=#fn=sp%3D1%26spc%3D1451

Thanks for any input :-)

Very nice watch, you really want advice about the prices listed?

If you buy one of these new its going to be worth less than half what you paid for it on eBay.......so the smart money would be on buying either one for half price on eBay or both on eBay for less than the price of one new one, or even going on up the ladder and getting a better version of the Tag.

I know its nice to go into the glitzy shop and buy a great new watch at the counter, maybe pick up a few goodies to boot...the hats, the T-Shirts, the keyrings etc. there is also the plus of getting the nice bag with the pristine boxes and all of the literature that comes with it, all the promises of what a great watch you have bought, all of the prestige and cachet attached to your luxury purchase, the history of the brand etc etc.
If thats what you are after, go to a couple of authorised dealers tell em you are on a deadline with no time to waste and look for the best price.

..........But a Tag especially is going to plummet in value the second you put it on, you are into Omega/Rolex/Breitling territory if you intend spending that kind of money..... I would rather go with a gently used Omega Aqua Terra for the same price, it has a very similar look, is without a doubt a more desired brand and probably a much better finished watch and bought second hand will not depreciate another cent in fact give it a few years and it will begin to go up in value in line with Omegas annual price hikes, a Bond Seamaster will be about $1200 a Coaxial Bond a bit more at $1700ish, a Planet Ocean in 42mm will be in budget @ $2000-$2400, Well in the market for a Rolex AirKing/Datejust - but they are small at 34mm&36mm more of an older persons watch, easily could easily have your choice of most of the Breitling line up.

If your heart is set on a Tag and a new one at that, its commonplace to get between 25% and 35% discount at most authorised dealers over here - except at Rolex, the Tags are less desirable so I would expect at lest 30% and up to 35% off list price

(I don't know if Macys are quoting Tags list price on these, if list is at $3000 for example you could obviously only expect to get the %age discount off the actual list price)

And for less desirable models within the Tag range you could expect some extras thrown like maybe a spare leather strap or display box - something like that, I am not sure where that model Carrera lies in popularity within the Tag family.... I would think its the chronos that are their most popular watches.

speeding · 17-09-2011 9:53pm

marcus1971 wrote: »

Very nice watch, you really want advice about the prices listed?

If you buy one of these new its going to be worth less than half what you paid for it on eBay.......so the smart money would be on buying either one for half price on eBay or both on eBay for less than the price of one new one, or even going on up the ladder and getting a better version of the Tag.

I know its nice to go into the glitzy shop and buy a great new watch at the counter, maybe pick up a few goodies to boot...the hats, the T-Shirts, the keyrings etc. there is also the plus of getting the nice bag with the pristine boxes and all of the literature that comes with it, all the promises of what a great watch you have bought, all of the prestige and cachet attached to your luxury purchase, the history of the brand etc etc.
If thats what you are after, go to a couple of authorised dealers tell em you are on a deadline with no time to waste and look for the best price.

..........But a Tag especially is going to plummet in value the second you put it on, you are into Omega/Rolex/Breitling territory if you intend spending that kind of money..... I would rather go with a gently used Omega Aqua Terra for the same price, it has a very similar look, is without a doubt a more desired brand and probably a much better finished watch and bought second hand will not depreciate another cent in fact give it a few years and it will begin to go up in value in line with Omegas annual price hikes, a Bond Seamaster will be about $1200 a Coaxial Bond a bit more at $1700ish, a Planet Ocean in 42mm will be in budget @ $2000-$2400, Well in the market for a Rolex AirKing/Datejust - but they are small at 34mm&36mm more of an older persons watch, easily could easily have your choice of most of the Breitling line up.

If your heart is set on a Tag and a new one at that, its commonplace to get between 25% and 35% discount at most authorised dealers over here - except at Rolex, the Tags are less desirable so I would expect at lest 30% and up to 35% off list price

(I don't know if Macys are quoting Tags list price on these, if list is at $3000 for example you could obviously only expect to get the %age discount off the actual list price)

And for less desirable models within the Tag range you could expect some extras thrown like maybe a spare leather strap or display box - something like that, I am not sure where that model Carrera lies in popularity within the Tag family.... I would think its the chronos that are their most popular watches.

Thanks for taking the time to write that :-) I'll check out ebay, But would there not be a risk of getting a fake. I'm sure there's plenty of good copies about. Any particular watch retailers in new york you would recommend :-)

marcus1971 · 17-09-2011 10:09pm

speeding wrote: »

Thanks for taking the time to write that :-) I'll check out ebay, But would there not be a risk of getting a fake. I'm sure there's plenty of good copies about. Any particular watch retailers in new york you would recommend :-)

Haven't got a clue about NY, if you are buying new just go to Tags site and look up their dealers...
There are some good Tag copies out there, most copied Tag is the Aquaracer but there will be a fake of every single model they make, the top drawer Carrera Auto Replica is in at over $350....so it WILL be almost spot on and will even have the same movement inside as the real Tag...so yes you do have to be careful with second hand.
If buying from eBay and are not too sure about detecting fakes ALWAYS make sure to buy from a seller who accepts returns and make sure to pay via Paypal and if there is the slightest doubt in your mind just send it back and inform Paypal right away.

Also consider that you can always phone any of the Tag dealers before you even leave for the US, they might be reluctant to broker a deal over the phone but you never know unless you try, also they might even have trade ins that they will sell at a good discount over new as well.

Edit: I have bought dozens and dozens of watches from eBay sellers over the last few years and never got stung with a fake.........remember buy the seller, check the feedback, read the comments and if ANYTHING looks fishy walk away

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 10:40pm

If your considering Omega here is a nice preowned Planet Ocean in the UK.
http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=188248

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 10:44pm

Another PO in your price range. There would be no comparison between the Omega and Tag for the money.
http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=188361

marcus1971 · 17-09-2011 11:02pm

Hard to beat the Planet Ocean, still current..ish, Daniel Craigs Bond watch
very versatile works well with either suits or shorts.

Best value for money though would have to be the Blue Bond Seamaster worn by both Brosnan and Craig, can be had for <$1200 for the full size auto and $1600ish for the Coaxial.

But if you want something dressy with a similar look to the Tag you picked there is the Omega Aqua Terra:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Seamaster-Aqua-Terra-Co-Axial-/180720501585?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item2a13c80351

And for potential investment quality there is the now discontinued Aqua Terra with blued hands and markers, going up in value by the month:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Seamaster-Aqua-Terra-Automatic-Co-Axial-XL-42-2mm-Blued-Markers-2502-33-/260854638705?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3cbc25e871

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 11:10pm

The first one is very Rolexish which is not a bad thing. I really like the blue hand version.

marcus1971 · 17-09-2011 11:15pm

Bullseye1 wrote: »

The first one is very Rolexish which is not a bad thing. I really like the blue hand version.

Yeah, the chrono version is pretty good too, don't know what they were thinking cancelling the blue hands once you get away from the PO and Moonwatch it was the best looking watch in the line-up imo.

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 11:18pm

If your heart is stuck on Tag this guy is selling a Carrera Calibre 5 for $1300 plus shipping. Similar look to your initial post.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/2-tag-heuer-watches-formula-1-alarm-carrera-calibre-5-a-588680.html

He is advertising two watches so scroll down to the second one.

speeding · 17-09-2011 11:23pm

Pity that website isn't letting me register. Both of them omega watches look brilliant. You are definitely make me reconsider the tag purchase. Thanks for being so helpful :-)

marcus1971 · 17-09-2011 11:23pm

Bullseye1 wrote: »

If your heart is stuck on Tag this guy is selling a Carrera Calibre 5 for $1300 plus shipping. Similar look to your initial post.
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f29/2-tag-heuer-watches-formula-1-alarm-carrera-calibre-5-a-588680.html

He is advertising two watches so scroll down to the second one.

The Cal 5 is a nice looking watch all right, can't get over the look of those F1s though, remind me of these:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEGO-Childrens-Star-Wars-Darth-Vader-Buildable-Watch-/180704498196?pt=UK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWatches_GL&hash=item2a12d3d214

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 11:35pm

Not a fan of the F1 myself.

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 11:37pm

I have two Tags already and the only one I'd really consider buying at this stage is the Monaco Calibre 12 (black dial). I need a square watch in my collection.

speeding · 17-09-2011 11:41pm

Guys if i buy from a us seller am i likely to receive a nice bill from customs ??

Bullseye1 · 17-09-2011 11:48pm

Probably. But there is a chance you could be stopped coming through Dublin Airport too. If you were willing to take a chance on having them write the value down you could save yourself some money. But there is some good deals to be had from some of those UK sellers and there is no customs as you know within the EU.

marcus1971 · 18-09-2011 2:14am

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Probably. But there is a chance you could be stopped coming through Dublin Airport too. If you were willing to take a chance on having them write the value down you could save yourself some money. But there is some good deals to be had from some of those UK sellers and there is no customs as you know within the EU.

Lots and lots of good value on these coming out of the UK and Germany all right.....

http://cgi.ebay.ie/Omega-Seamaster-Aqua-Terra-150M-Uhr-38-5mm-UVP-1995-/280739913547?pt=DE_Kleidung_Schmuck_Accessoires_Uhren_Armbanduhren&hash=item415d671f4b
(A bit rough looking, might be a good buy at 800ish)

http://cgi.ebay.ie/TAG-Heuer-Carrera-automatic-mens-watch-live-warranty-until-June-2012-/160653602556?pt=UK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWatches_GL&hash=item2567b36efc

There you go, a Carrera like you wanted AND an Aqua Terra for 2,000 Euro, and you would most likely do much better with a bit of patience

speeding · 18-09-2011 8:32am

Thanks guys. If you know of anyone selling locally or on here let me know.

speeding · 18-09-2011 8:44am

Would this be a good buy in your opinion ?? Does it look legit ?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Omega-Seamaster-GMT-Model-2534-50-Boxes-papers-etc-/220849799681?pt=UK_Jewelery_Watches_Watches_MensWatches_GL&hash=item336bac8201#ht_664wt_1138

Wibbs · 18-09-2011 8:57am

Leaving the watch itself out of it(and my knowledge of the newer stuff is crap:o) the seller has very good feedback. Over a 1000 feedback reports and only one neutral(and the money was refunded) looks good. Feedback isn't everything. I've seen sellers of all sorts of things with good feedback who were selling crap, but in this case it looks pretty legit.

PS I soooo agree with Marcus on going the second hand/previously loved route. Especially with a Tag. They suffer serious depreciation and outside of a few rare and expensive models in their range are unlikely to keep their value long term compared to other marques(the Heuers before they were TAG do) They're seen for good or ill as more of a "fashion watch".

speeding · 18-09-2011 9:57am

Anyone willing to put a bid in for this watch for me ?? Site won't let me register ?? http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=188361

Bullseye1 · 18-09-2011 10:23am

Why is it not letting you register? Maybe you just haven't been activated yet?

Bullseye1 · 18-09-2011 10:33am

Just checked the site myself. Maybe the admin is not allowing new members.

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It says to contact Administrators but it's not a very user friendly setup. When you click on admin icon it says you need to be logged on. I think there are some members here who might be able help you get registered.

Bullseye1 · 18-09-2011 10:34am

BTW I tried registering on iPhone. It might be easier on an actual computer.

Bullseye1 · 18-09-2011 10:40am

Nice Omega AT black dial for £875. If you can manage to get registered.
http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=181671

speeding · 18-09-2011 10:48am

just waiting to be accepted by mod :-) Site is working this morning.

Homer · 18-09-2011 10:50am

TZ-UK haven't been taking new members for a while now. Not entirely sure why? I do know it's quite a small community.. It's a pity as I've seen a few nice pieces and as I can't register I can't make offers or ask any questions.

As already mentioned by a few posters.. Quality pre owned is definitely something I would recommend. Have picked up two stunning pre owned pieces this year that were as new with boxes, paperwork etc and had been extremely well cared for.

speeding · 18-09-2011 10:51am

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Nice Omega AT black dial for £875. If you can manage to get registered.
http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=181671

Looks good. Nice price too. Hopefully i can register in time to make a bid.

Homer · 18-09-2011 11:07am

speeding wrote: »

just waiting to be accepted by mod :-) Site is working this morning.

So it is! I hadn't tried for ages. Damn this could cost me €€€

Bullseye1 · 18-09-2011 11:38am

Must sign on quickly. The site has some terrific watches for sale.

Mitch Buchannon · 18-09-2011 12:38pm

speeding wrote: »

Hi Guys

Im off on holidays to New York next week. I've wanted to add a tag to my collection for a long time now.

I have to say Im a big fan of Omega. I have one myself and you wont go wrong with one thats for sure.

Now I dont want to throw a spanner in the works but one of our active members on this forum is selling a lovely Tag Heuer Link Calibre 36. Im not going to post a link as I dont want to be seen as advertising watches for someone else, but it may be worth a look. I have added a picture of it below.

** Mods if this is inappropriate please delete this post. **

speeding · 18-09-2011 1:24pm

I think I'm buying this ?? What do people think of the price ? Fair ?

http://www.tz-uk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=188840

Bullseye1 · 18-09-2011 1:30pm

The one I posted has the Co-Axial movement and is cheaper. I would go with that one to be honest.

Bullseye1 · 18-09-2011 1:32pm

Strange. I just registered and it won't allow me to view the sales corner (need 5 posts) but if your not logged in you can.

speeding · 18-09-2011 1:33pm

Bullseye1 wrote: »

The one I posted has the Co-Axial movement and is cheaper. I would go with that one to be honest.

Excuse my ignorance when it comes to watches. But what's the difference between the two ?

Mitch Buchannon · 18-09-2011 2:02pm

bedlam wrote: »

Count your self lucky, it used to be 25 and as high as 50 post. It's to try and cut down on hit and run sellers.

You need 50 posts to make a post in sales corner. There is nothing stopping you from sending the seller a PM or an email though.

Mitch Buchannon · 18-09-2011 2:47pm

speeding wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance when it comes to watches. But what's the difference between the two ?

One is quartz and the other watch is mechanical. Quartz is operated by a battery and mechanical is either handwound or automatic (works by the movement of your wrist)

Mechanical watches are usually held in higher esteem ( rightly or wrongly )by us "watchy" type people. They usually hold their value better should you eventually decide to sell and generally (not always) last longer, as in there are mechanical watches still working that were made 60/70/80 years ago.

If it was me, I would go for the mechanical watch. I just love the sweeping second hands on them.

Here is a basic video just showing the difference between Quartz , Automatic & Handwound.

Mitch Buchannon · 18-09-2011 2:57pm

bedlam wrote: »

Is that not frowned upon or am I confusing it with some other forum?

I dont think so to be honest. I was reading a post reciently where a new guy was saying that he wanted to buy a watch and he couldnt post in sales corner due to his low post count. Lots of people then said just PM or email the seller.

marcus1971 · 18-09-2011 3:17pm

speeding wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance when it comes to watches. But what's the difference between the two ?

There is nothing wrong with a quartz watch and most likely nobody you will come across will ever notice.....if you intend getting into collecting a few watches you WILL kick yourself if you spend a lot of money buying a quartz as one of your first watches, last count I made there was 17 watches in my watchbox, thats between myself and the wife and of all those watches there is only one quartz, and its hers and it was a total waste of money (apart from my 200k worth of BOI shares) I paid $1500 for a Gucci Quartz something or other with a diamond bezel,.....once the interest started in watches I realised that I could have bought a decent TT ladies Rolex, Cartier, Omega......I paid waaay too much for a Gucci, sure they make nice shoes but in the watch world they are like comparing Tommy Hilfiger to Brioni, you can go out and spend over $10,000 on a Tommy Hilfiger suit....But who the hell would???

Quartz watches are fine, but what holds me back is the fact that if I was to spend almost $1000 on a quartz I would see it as a missed oppertunity to buy another mechanical watch......ironically if I were to buy a quartz watch I would be on the lookout for a cheap Tag diver, something semi vintage, with a busted movement..I would see nothing sacreligious in replacing a decent quartz movement with whatever cheapo quartz that would fit in, but it would have to be cheap because there are some great deals on mechanical watches every single day on eBay, yesterday a ladies SS Rolex Datejust sold for $780, at 500ish Euro it was practically given away

Whatever you buy is really dependant on how important this deal is to you, if you make so much money that you can throw around a couple thousand of euro and its no big deal, just buy what you like the look of.

If you want to buy a watch to last a lifetime, something to keep for decades, buy a mechanical watch and lean more towards brands like Omega.

If you think you might be developing an interest in collecting watches don't buy a high priced quartz.

Mitch Buchannon · 19-09-2011 8:44pm

Mitch Buchannon wrote: »

You need 50 posts to make a post in sales corner. There is nothing stopping you from sending the seller a PM or an email though.

I dont want to take this thread off topic but the rules have changed on tz-uk . As far as I know the new rules as of today for Sales Corner are:

The new rules are 50 posts to view and 250 posts to post. The forum has been attracting too many people who join for the wrong reasons and 50 posts of "nice watch", " or " in 24 hours doesn't exactly inspire confidence in your motives.

Bullseye1 · 19-09-2011 9:36pm

Yeah noticed that too.

speeding · 21-09-2011 7:05pm

http://www.thewatchsource.co.uk/item/Tag-Heuer/Carrera-Automatic/wv211b.fc6202.html

Think i'm going to go with this. Has anyone bought from this site before ??

marcus1971 · 21-09-2011 7:26pm

speeding wrote: »

http://www.thewatchsource.co.uk/item/Tag-Heuer/Carrera-Automatic/wv211b.fc6202.html

Think i'm going to go with this. Has anyone bought from this site before ??

It really is a beautiful watch, one thing to consider before pressing the "buy" button, the version with the steel bracelet is probably only a little more expensive and leather straps of equal quality to the one you will get with the watch (which will need replacing in a few years anyway) can be bought for anywhere between 50 and 200 Euro, the steel bracelet however will cost you probably 400-500 if you decide to buy it afterwards. and you will only be able to et it form a Tag dealer.
Its always a good idea to get the bracelet with the watch when its new and buying a leather strap wherever you want afterward.
Its the steel bracelet is better for the hotter months or if you are abroad and like to swim, water and leather does not get on well and the watch is always safer on your arm than in a hotel room or beside the pool.

speeding · 21-09-2011 7:32pm

one with steel bracelet is on backorder. Decisions decisions. But i can definitely see where you're coming from.

marcus1971 · 21-09-2011 8:36pm

Try calling up a Tag dealer in Ireland, closest to wherever you are, tell them you are about to buy a Tag from the UK, even give them the name of the site you are buying from and ask them to match the price, they will give you a load of malarky about grey area dealers etc. tell them you don't care, have money to spend, this is my limit....deal or no deal !!!

The mark up on these is huge, they could easily sell you the watch and still make a profit, things are tight these days, they may be able to deal with you on it..... If you do try this make 100% sure that the watch is brand new (not display or a repaired return) and comes with all the plastic bumpers still on.

I don't know anything about the site you have listed but you should be aware that it is possible...especially for an overseas deal, that you might be sent a display watch, one that has been warranty replaced and repaired or even one that has been worn and returned or one that has had the serial numbers filed off if not bought from an authorised dealer....
a lot of these sites give customers a try for 30 days and return if not 100% happy...those returned watches are then sometimes sold on as new, it really does not make such a big deal bit you are buying a new watch, just be sure that is what you get.... These things almost always go 100% right, just ask the right ?s and don't be that .00001% that gets a bad deal.

Other regulars might have more advice re: Strap Vs. Bracelet, I would always go for the steel myself.....but then again I think I know everything.

Decided to buy a tag

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