Can't lose weight

Stench Blossoms

I'm at my wits end here.

Started almost a year ago to try and lose a bit of weight but I've only ended up putting more on. I know muscle weight more than fat but I haven't lost any inches either.

Can anyone give me any idea's on what I could be doing wrong?

This is my latest routine:

Monday morning: 45min Kettlebells, 15 abs
Monday eveing: 45min Stablility Ball, 15 abs, 45 rebounding

Tuesday morining: 30mins spinning
Tuesday evening: 45mins spinning, 15 abs

Wednesday eveing: 45min kettlebells, 15 abs

Thursday morning: 30min spinning
Thursday evening: 45min spinning, 45min kettles + 15abs

Friday afternooon: 35 min circuit training

Typical days diet is:

Breakfast: Porridge
Lunch: Chicken wrap with peppers and sweetcorn
Dinner: Meat and 2 veg. Try not to eat many potatoes, if i did it would be 2 baby ones.

Chinese/Chipper: once a week

I don't eat bread because I've a yeast intolerance. Don't drink fizzy drinks, don't drink tea or coffee either.

Drink about 1lt water everyday (I know this should be more and i'm trying to drink more).

Please somebody help me!!!

Hanley

Give us some more info...

What do you weigh?
How tall are you?
How old are you?
How big are your portion sizes?

And can you say with 100% honesty that's all you eat every day...?? No sneaky biscuits or bars of chocolate here or there? If you don't give full disclosure any advice you get will be largely redudant.

marathonic

Agree with Hanley. I don't see how you could possibly do many of those training sessions with any intensity (or at all) on that diet.

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Thursday morning: 30min spinning
Thursday evening: 45min spinning, 45min kettles + 15abs

Typical days diet is:

Breakfast: Porridge
Lunch: Chicken wrap with peppers and sweetcorn
Dinner: Meat and 2 veg. Try not to eat many potatoes, if i did it would be 2 baby ones.

Like the above, I think I'd collapse halfway through the evening spinning session on that diet.

Stench Blossoms

Sorry I left out that I have a Curly Wurley most days on my 'tea' break.

Sometimes I eat a bag of crisps with my wrap but it would be once every 2 weeks at most.

I'm 5'3
61.5 kilos.
25

If i get peckish during the day I'll have an apple.

I'm not suppose to eat fruit as I suffer from Canidia.

marathonic

Have you set up an account with the likes of the following websites:

http://www.fitday.com/
http://mynetdiary.com/

Most have apps for iPhone, Android, Blackberry so, if you have any of those phones, it makes it very easy to add foods on the go. The apps are usually linked up to your online account too.

MrFrisp

I'd think that the workouts every single day are excessive..

Your body isn't getting anytime to recover,or adjust...

And with the diet...If you eat that little,with the workouts your doing,,your body is probably in starvation mode. Your taking in so little,,your body is storing the fat as a reserve.

And,,drop the curly wurley....It's calories (Junk) that you just don't need...They all add up.

Just My 5 cent worth.

Dravokivich

Do you make the wrap yourself or is it store bought?

Stench Blossoms

marathonic wrote: »

Have you set up an account with the likes of the following websites:

http://www.fitday.com/
http://mynetdiary.com/

Most have apps for iPhone, Android, Blackberry so, if you have any of those phones, it makes it very easy to add foods on the go. The apps are usually linked up to your online account too.

I had one set up before but tbh I found them hard to use.

I get my breakfast and lunch in the canteen in work so don't usually know the weights of the food.

SexyGuy wrote: »

I'd think that the workouts every single day are excessive..

Your body isn't getting anytime to recover,or adjust...

And with the diet...If you eat that little,with the workouts your doing,,your body is probably in starvation mode. Your taking in so little,,your body is storing the fat as a reserve.

Just My 5 cent worth.

My 'off' days are Saturday and Sunday for recovery.

Stench Blossoms

Dravokivich wrote: »

Do you make the wrap yourself or is it store bought?

It's from a deli counter in work.

MrFrisp

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

I had one set up before but tbh I found them hard to use.

I get my breakfast and lunch in the canteen in work so don't usually know the weights of the food.



My 'off' days are Saturday and Sunday for recovery.

It don't work that way at all...Your body needs recovery after a workout...Your not doing that...Your working out every day,,sometimes twice a day..

A workout with a day off the following day would be much better. 5 days in a row,with the diet you have just isn't giving the body the recovery that it needs.

Stench Blossoms

SexyGuy wrote: »

It don't work that way at all...Your body needs recovery after a workout...Your not doing that...Your working out every day,,sometimes twice a day..

A workout with a day off the following day would be much better. 5 days in a row,with the diet you have just isn't giving the body the recovery that it needs.

Would this be why I'm not losing any weight?

Vegeta

Is there cream and sugar in the porridge?
Is the chicken in the wrap breaded, any mayo or condements in it?
The meat and 2 veg, any sauces with this, butter on the potatoes etc etc?

How long have you weighed 61.5kg? Or how long have you been monitoring that weight?

Stench Blossoms

Vegeta wrote: »

Is there cream and sugar in the porridge?
Is the chicken in the wrap breaded, any mayo or condements in it?
The meat and 2 veg, any sauces with this, butter on the potatoes etc etc?

How long have you weighed 61.5kg? Or how long have you been monitoring that weight?

Have weighted 61.5 for the last month at least. Sometimes I go down to 9.3 stone but always back up again.

Porridge is made with milk. No sugar. Sometimes I put pecan in it.
Chicken in the wrap isn't breaded (can't eat bread). Sweet chilli sauce.
No sauces. Small bit of low butter on the potatos.

Stench Blossoms

Wanted to add more.

Once a week I'll have a 'dinner' for my lunch instead of the wrap which could be a chicken breast/pork with veg. (Veg is usually sweetcorn and green beans or cauliflower and broccili)

The odd time I might have chicken with some rice.

I'd have a salad in the evening if I ate a dinner in work.

syklops

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Try not to eat many potatoes,.

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

butter on the potatos.

How many potatoes are we talking here? Even if they are baby ones, how many?

How do you prepare them? Is it boiled? Roast? Mashed?

Would you consider dropping the potatoes for brown rice or wholegrain pasta?

Are you sure there is nothing else you eat? It seems a very bland diet. Maybe post up a food diary, and be totally honest. In most cases i have seen, you can see why someone is maintaining their weight from only a couple of days worth of diary.

discus

SexyGuy wrote: »

It don't work that way at all...Your body needs recovery after a workout...Your not doing that...Your working out every day,,sometimes twice a day..

A workout with a day off the following day would be much better. 5 days in a row,with the diet you have just isn't giving the body the recovery that it needs.

But I think that depends on the workout one is doing.

If it was strength work, you could probably should do with the rest days. But her workouts are all conditioning - even the days that involve a morning and evening work could be compared to a cycle to and from work. I don't think rest days are an issue here, in my opinion. Maybe someone with some credibility could back me up here!

Stench Blossoms

Yeh I can start the food diary again.

Yes, I HATE my diet. It's so boring.

2 baby potatoes, boiled.

I try not to eat potatoes at all but the boyfriend needs his carbs and generally cooks them.

I don't like eating pasta (as much as I love it) because it makes me feel very bloated.

I could try eating brown rice instead.

There's sweet and sour chicken with rice on the lunch menu today. I'll eat that instead of the wrap today.

ronaneire

Do you leave the house without eating before you get to work? You should try and vary your diet. You said you don't drink any tea or coffee?
Have you tried drinking green tea, whether it does work or not http://www.greenteainformation.org/green-tea-benefits/lose-weight.htm

Burkatron

OP, you never mentioned anything about alcohol? Do you drink? If so how often?
Do you hit the chipper after a night out?

How can you eat wraps if you have a yeast intolerance? Also I don't think white rice is allowed on a candida diet?

cmyk

This thread is going to go around in circles until you find out how many calories you're eating (and drinking) and what the breakdowns of those calories are. This will involve measuring your portions for a day or two and inputting them into an online calculator, then post back with the results.

Out of interest, why do you train twice per day?

Rossin

surely just to burn more calories?

Stench Blossoms

ronaneire wrote: »

Do you leave the house without eating before you get to work? You should try and vary your diet. You said you don't drink any tea or coffee?
Have you tried drinking green tea, whether it does work or not http://www.greenteainformation.org/green-tea-benefits/lose-weight.htm

No I don't eat before leaving the house.

I've tried green tea. Don't like it either.

Burkatron wrote: »

OP, you never mentioned anything about alcohol? Do you drink? If so how often?
Do you hit the chipper after a night out?

How can you eat wraps if you have a yeast intolerance? Also I don't think white rice is allowed on a candida diet?

I don't get cramps as much if I eat wraps (I would be in agony if I ate a slice of white bread just say)

Haven't drank in over 2 months. If I do drink it'd be 6 smirnoff ice and yeh followed by a chipper afterwards.

cmyk wrote: »

This thread is going to go around in circles until you find out how many calories you're eating (and drinking) and what the breakdowns of those calories are. This will involve measuring your portions for a day or two and inputting them into an online calculator, then post back with the results.

Out of interest, why do you train twice per day?

I'm not really sure how I can measure my portions when I don't prepare the food myself. (Preparing the food myself is not really an option either)

Train twice a day because I'm sick of being this weight. Would ideally like to be 8.5 stone which I was told is average for my height. I used to only do Spinning in the evenings and 1 kettlebell class a week but after seeing no weight loss I upped it to 4 spinning and more kettles.

I also enjoy the classes.

MrFrisp

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Would this be why I'm not losing any weight?

It would go a long way to explaing it,to be honest....

Your really overdoing it on the workouts I think...

And,while you do need to be in calorie deficit to lose weight,maybe your just eating a bit less than you really should. That means your body goes into starvation mode,,and it's going to store the fat as reserves.

Also,take into account your not massively overweight by any means. Maybe your body is happy where it is now..And sometimes that last extra bit of fat is just a bit too much to lose.

discus

SexyGuy wrote: »

It would go a long way to explaing it,to be honest....

Your really overdoing it on the workouts I think...

If she's overdoing it with the timetable she has posted, then the only risk health wise is an injury.

Sorry to contradict you so strongly, but I completely disagree with you.

And you're wrong in a lot of what you're putting forward as fact.

Stench Blossoms

SexyGuy wrote: »

It would go a long way to explaing it,to be honest....

Your really overdoing it on the workouts I think...

And,while you do need to be in calorie deficit to lose weight,maybe your just eating a bit less than you really should. That means your body goes into starvation mode,,and it's going to store the fat as reserves.

Also,take into account your not massively overweight by any means. Maybe your body is happy where it is now..And sometimes that last extra bit of fat is just a bit too much to lose.

I'd prefer to be under the 9stone mark.

discus wrote: »

If she's overdoing it with the timetable she has posted, then the only risk health wise is an injury.

Sorry to contradict you so strongly, but I completely disagree with you.

I don't really think I'm over doing it either but I would have thought that with the amount I do I would hope to see *some* sort of weight loss.

digme

How long do you expect to keep the fat to a level your happy with?

shadowcomplex

SexyGuy wrote: »

It would go a long way to explaing it,to be honest....

Your really overdoing it on the workouts I think...

And,while you do need to be in calorie deficit to lose weight,maybe your just eating a bit less than you really should. That means your body goes into starvation mode,,and it's going to store the fat as reserves.

Also,take into account your not massively overweight by any means. Maybe your body is happy where it is now..And sometimes that last extra bit of fat is just a bit too much to lose.

This is BS

Gummy Panda

marathonic wrote: »

Have you set up an account with the likes of the following websites:

http://www.fitday.com/
http://mynetdiary.com/

Most have apps for iPhone, Android, Blackberry so, if you have any of those phones, it makes it very easy to add foods on the go. The apps are usually linked up to your online account too.

Myfitnesspal would be an easy app to use.

You don't have to be 100% accurate. Just open your wrap and work out the generally ingredients e.g. half a chicken breast, tablespoon of mayo, etc

The app will add them up for you. You just need to record everything that passes your mouth.

Stench Blossoms

digme wrote: »

How long do you expect to keep the fat to a level your happy with?

I don't really know what you mean here?

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Myfitnesspal would be an easy app to use.

You don't have to be 100% accurate. Just open your wrap and work out the generally ingredients e.g. half a chicken breast, tablespoon of mayo, etc

The app will add them up for you. You just need to record everything that passes your mouth.

I'll put it back on my phone and see how I get on with it.

ronaneire

How long you going without food from the moment you get up in the mornings until you actually eat breakfast?

discus

You're gonna have to cook your own lunches etc. to get an idea of your calorie intake. You'll then know your weekly intake. Over a month or so, you can compare your weekly calorie intake vs change in weight. It'll give you an idea of how much food maintains your weight, or in your case, how much you need to cut out in order to lose weight.

It's a pain in the arse, and it's not a short term, but it'll give you the knowledge and figures to base your calculations for months ahead.

Stench Blossoms

ronaneire wrote: »

How long you going without food from the moment you get up in the mornings until you actually eat breakfast?

On Monday's, Tuesday's and Thursday's (Spinning at 7am) I might have an apple after spinning. Otherwise I would eat my breakfast at 9.30.

Wednesday and Friday's I'm up at half 7. Breakfast again at 9.30.

MrFrisp

shadowcomplex wrote: »

This is BS

Is it now?? :eek: Read number one...And that's only one post....Google about not eating enough calories..

http://www.healthkicker.com/726534565/reasons-why-you-must-eat-enough-calories/

No doubt all those results are b/s also?

http://www.livestrong.com/article/290277-not-eating-enough-calories-weight-loss/

discus

SexyGuy wrote: »

Is it now?? :eek: Read number one...And that's only one post....Google about not eating enough calories..

http://www.healthkicker.com/726534565/reasons-why-you-must-eat-enough-calories/

No doubt all those results are b/s also?

It's the internet, mate. People who write articles can write whatever they want, they can write their own testimonials, fake credentials and call themselves experts etc. Don't believe all ya read.

You're right, there is a starvation mode of sorts, but according to the article you posted, that's for people eating under 1200 calories a day. No one who's trying to lose weight should eat under that level for a long duration, so your point doesn't count!

ronaneire

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

On Monday's, Tuesday's and Thursday's (Spinning at 7am) I might have an apple after spinning. Otherwise I would eat my breakfast at 9.30.

Wednesday and Friday's I'm up at half 7. Breakfast again at 9.30.

You should try and have something before you leave, to kick start your metabolism. Even if it was just a yogurt or banana. By not eating first thing you think that it will also help you lose some weight, and I should of asked earlier, what time would you have your dinner in the evening?

Stench Blossoms

ronaneire wrote: »

You should try and have something before you leave, to kick start your metabolism. Even if it was just a yogurt or banana. By not eating first thing you think that it will also help you lose some weight, and I should of asked earlier, what time would you have your dinner in the evening?

It depends on what day it is.

Monday: 9pm (If I could skip it I would but my boyfriend insists I eat)
Tuesday: 6pm
Wednesday 8pm
Thursday:7pm
Friday 5pm.

I'll have a yogurt before work in the mornings. Anyone in particular?

I know that eating more will make me want to work out more.

MrFrisp

discus wrote: »

It's the internet, mate. People who write articles can write whatever they want, they can write their own testimonials, fake credentials and call themselves experts etc. Don't believe all ya read.

You're right, there is a starvation mode of sorts, but according to the article you posted, that's for people eating under 1200 calories a day. No one who's trying to lose weight should eat under that level for a long duration, so your point doesn't count!

Well,,the OP hasn't mentioned exactly how many calories she does consume every day.

But,,you do have a point with regards to the 1200 or below.

Things on the internet can be right,or wrong..It's 50/50. Lots of helpful,and correct things on it,,but it's also full of useless ****e.

ronaneire

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

It depends on what day it is.

Monday: 9pm (If I could skip it I would but my boyfriend insists I eat)
Tuesday: 6pm
Wednesday 8pm
Thursday:7pm
Friday 5pm.

I'll have a yogurt before work in the mornings. Anyone's in particular?

I know that eating more will make me want to work out more.

Eating more doesn't mean you have to workout more. Again your having a yogurt in work? And not eating before you leave the house? Eating late won't help either.

If you want to lose weight, you need to get your diet in order.

seamus

As has been said above, you'll really need to take control of the food you eat before you can accurately say for certain how much you are and are not eating.

Here's a quick screenshot of fitday's calculations based on what you've posted up here. I don't eat chicken, so I don't know exactly how much a shop puts in a chicken wrap, but I've seen them being made and seen them put in an entire small chicken breast. Although they're heated up in a microwave, they're usually deep fried when cooked.



Porridge likewise when made in a restaurant environment you have no idea whether they've added sugar or anything to it.

The above is total guesswork of course. I haven't added in the veg or any things like mayonnaise or butter or milks that you may use, all of which do add up.
For your size, assuming that you work in an office environment, you'll have a BMR of around 1,700 calories. Ignoring your exercise, this basically means that on the days that you get a chipper or chinese, or even have a bottle of wine, you are wiping out the calorie deficit that you've built up over the previous 7 days, and then adding some on.

You can still eat fast food, but make sensible choices. A standard square portion of rice that you get in a takeaway is about twice what you need. So only use half of it. And obviously boiled rice is better than fried. Anything with batter on it is asking for trouble. Curry sauce is better than sweet and sour, though oyster or soy sauce are best.
Avoid starters at all - Prawn crackers are insanely high in calories; each cracker is about 50 calories. If they give you a free bag of them, bin it.

rubadub weighed out a takeaway before to get an idea of the calories.

With chipper, the sensible choice really is "don't get it", since everything or almost everything is deep-fried. A standard chipper portion of burger and chips will contain almost your entire day's calorie requirements.

There are no freebies when you're dieting. Everything that passes your lips has a cost and you need to account for it.

I would say that if you stop getting takeaways completely (or switch to super-healthy options from the chinese) and make your own lunch, you should start to see the weight coming off quite rapidly.

digme

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

I don't really know what you mean here?

How long do you want to keep slim for?

Gummy Panda

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

It depends on what day it is.

Monday: 9pm (If I could skip it I would but my boyfriend insists I eat)
Tuesday: 6pm
Wednesday 8pm
Thursday:7pm
Friday 5pm.

I'll have a yogurt before work in the mornings. Anyone in particular?

I know that eating more will make me want to work out more.

are you having the porridge before the morning sessions or after?

Basically are doing fasted cardio?

syklops

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

Yeh I can start the food diary again.

Yes, I HATE my diet. It's so boring.

2 baby potatoes, boiled.

I try not to eat potatoes at all but the boyfriend needs his carbs and generally cooks them.

I don't like eating pasta (as much as I love it) because it makes me feel very bloated.

I could try eating brown rice instead.

There's sweet and sour chicken with rice on the lunch menu today. I'll eat that instead of the wrap today.

I suspect part of your problem is that 2 thirds of your diet is coming from the work canteen, so there is probably a lot of salt, and sugar and other ingredients which you are not seeing. Not so much the porridge, but the sauces in things can hide alot more calories than one might expect. Same goes for the chinese takeaway.

Maybe try wholewheat pasta, you might feel less bloated.

Definitely do the food diary, and I can give you some recipes to make your diet more interesting.

MrFrisp

digme wrote: »

How long do you want to keep slim for?

I.E.

Do you want to be slim for good...

Or is it a short term thing for an upcoming wedding..etc...

Stench Blossoms

ronaneire wrote: »

Eating more doesn't mean you have to workout more. Again your having a yogurt in work? And not eating before you leave the house? Eating late won't help either.

If you want to lose weight, you need to get your diet in order.

I'll have the yogurt before I leave the house.

I've put some info in myfitnesspal and I'll see how I get on with that for a week or so.

So is the general consenus here that I should be eating more?

Stench Blossoms

SexyGuy wrote: »

I.E.

Do you want to be slim for good...

Or is it a short term thing for an upcoming wedding..etc...

I want this a permanent weight.

Gummy Panda wrote: »

are you having the porridge before the morning sessions or after?

Basically are doing fasted cardio?

Have the porridge after my morning sessions.

syklops wrote: »

I suspect part of your problem is that 2 thirds of your diet is coming from the work canteen, so there is probably a lot of salt, and sugar and other ingredients which you are not seeing. Not so much the porridge, but the sauces in things can hide alot more calories than one might expect. Same goes for the chinese takeaway.

Maybe try wholewheat pasta, you might feel less bloated.

Definitely do the food diary, and I can give you some recipes to make your diet more interesting.

That would be brilliant skylops.

What do you recommend that I could bring in for lunch? There's no option to heat anything up in here.

Thud

How well do you stick to your diet?

How often do you opt for the sweet and sour in the canteen over the wrap? Are crisps a once off or most days? Is the chipper really only once a week or sometimes twice? Is it just one curly wurly? Two spuds on the plate but do you go back for seconds?

Be honest with yourself.

You are going to have to cut these treats out much more maybe only treat yourself once a month or when you lose a certain amount of weight. I know you might feel you have earned them after a workout but you can't treat yourself every day.

Thud

Stench Blossoms wrote: »

So is the general consenus here that I should be eating more?

No, you need to count your calories properly before you make this assumption.

Also how intense are your workouts, are they in a (spinning, abs) class or on your own?

Stench Blossoms

Thud wrote: »

How well do you stick to your diet?

How often do you opt for the sweet and sour in the canteen over the wrap? Are crisps a once off or most days? Is the chipper really only once a week or sometimes twice? Is it just one curly wurly? Two spuds on the plate but do you go back for seconds?

Be honest with yourself.

You are going to have to cut these treats out much more maybe only treat yourself once a month or when you lose a certain amount of weight. I know you might feel you have earned them after a workout but you can't treat yourself every day.

Sweet and sour in the canteen - once a month
Chipper - once a week max
Just the one curly wurly.
And yes just the 2 spuds. I wouldn't eat them at all only that my OH forces me to eat some carbs!

Stench Blossoms

Thud wrote: »

No, you need to count your calories properly before you make this assumption.

Also how intense are your workouts, are they in a (spinning, abs) class or on your own?

They are all classes.

optimistic_

OP, you are being pulled from pillar to post with bad ideas here. Thread is going nowhere.

Read the stickies at the top of the forum.
Eat more protien, less carbohydrates.

And my opinion:

breakfast - eggs
lunch - chicken breast, broccoli
dinner - lean meat / fish, green veg.

NB: Start resistance training. Today.

Edit: And it goes without saying - cut the crisps, cut the curley wurleys, cut the crap. You're either serious and commited or you're not.
Snacks: berries - and sometimes nuts. A FEW nuts. Not a bag of salted nuts.

Edit again: Cut out the bloody chippers.

Go three full weeks - no off days, no rewarding yourself for being good days of eating a 100% clean diet. At the end of three weeks, that's 21 days of your life, see how you feel.

Stench Blossoms

optimistic_ wrote: »

OP, you are being pulled from pillar to post with bad ideas here. Thread is going nowhere.

Read the stickies at the top of the forum.
Eat more protien, less carbohydrates.

And my opinion:

breakfast - eggs
lunch - chicken breast, broccoli
dinner - lean meat / fish, green veg.

NB: Start resistance training. Today.

Edit: And it goes without saying - cut the crisps, cut the curley wurleys, cut the crap. You're either serious and commited or you're not.
Snacks: berries - and sometimes nuts. A FEW nuts. Not a bag of salted nuts.

I don't eat crisps everyday. Most crisps have yeast extract in them so I would be in agony if I did.

Can't eat berries.

Are kettlebells not classed as resistance?

I'll cut out the chippers and the curly wurlys!