Car Spraying

xXCivicMadXx

Hi, I'm interested in buying a spray gun to respray my car. It has to be a good one which is big to do the whole car ( it needs to be totally resprayed not just a touch up). Could anyone recommend a website or a place to buy one Thanks.

MetzgerMeister

Is it your main driver and a good car? Have you ever done this before?

xXCivicMadXx

I havnt done it before but have a project car to practice on

MetzgerMeister

I would suggest you do a LOT of practice before going near your daily driver if that's the one you're doing.

There's a lot of techniques you can use to get a proper finish. You should read up on them before starting and while in the process.

Also, don't be fooled, getting a proper finish takes a lot of work and a lot of time. Hence why bodyshops are expensive. The majority of the price they charge is for labour (prepping, sanding etc.)

xXCivicMadXx

i have studied alot about it and i know what is involved all i need is the gun and im ready

MetzgerMeister

Have you checked your local motor factors?

pARTner81

http://www.vinnybyrnestore.com/ These guys do one day training also, I was considering doing it sometime! Just do some homework on products and prices, these spray guns can get very expensive, I guess its a case of getting what you pay for, as with most things in the auto trade!

kja1888

Dont go too mad on price if you're only going to use it for one car. Most of the guns you can get in a motor factors or online should be ok for amateur use. Theres also a few other issues, like have you got a compressor, what capacity is it, have you got a decent water trap, what type of paint are you going to use, do you have the correct protective equipment, have you got a garage or will you be doing it outdoors. It'll soon be too cold to spray a car in an unheated environment. You will need a lot of practice. Its easy enough to get an 80% decent result, its very difficult to get a 100% finish first time.

end a eknny

is the car metalic or not. i would suggest a sealey gold suction feed with a 1.8 nozzle and use 2k paint if not metalic. gun should about 40 euro

xXCivicMadXx

end a eknny wrote: »

is the car metalic or not. i would suggest a sealey gold suction feed with a 1.8 nozzle and use 2k paint if not metalic. gun should about 40 euro

Cheers but do you know where to buy the equipment

xXCivicMadXx

and would a 50Litre Compressor do

end a eknny

any good motor factors. 50l will do but it may take a bit longer stopping to let pressure build up. with that set up and first time i would take off doors wings bonnet lie them flat and spray one at a time

xXCivicMadXx

Hi im wanting to start spraying my project cars. i have studied and know how to do it but i need equipment. i need to know what liter compressor i will need i was thinking of getting a 50liter one. it that ok ??

-Corkie-

PM Owen that posts here. He is a expert in all that.

xXCivicMadXx

Where would i find Owen in a big place like this

xXCivicMadXx

Thanks man i really appreciate it

mickdw

You got an answer in the other thread. Why 2 thread?

PaulKK

xXCivicMadXx wrote: »

Where would i find Owen in a big place like this

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/member.php?u=38076

xXCivicMadXx

mickdw wrote: »

You got an answer in the other thread. Why 2 thread?

more i have the more ill get answers

Owen

end a eknny wrote: »

is the car metalic or not. i would suggest a sealey gold suction feed with a 1.8 nozzle and use 2k paint if not metalic. gun should about 40 euro

Okay, lots of mis information in this post. 2 pack paint is not available to the public these days except in certain circumstances. You'll end up buying water based paint, and using 2 pack lacquer. As in my PM to you (And repeated here for the benefit of anyone else thinking of doing this), you'll need a minimum of 2 guys. One with a 1.3mm setup for base coat (Water based, or metallic, doesn't make a diff these days), and a 1.5mm setup for lacquer. If you're using a high build polyester primer you'll most likely need a third separate gun for that with a 1.5mm setup too.

I shudder to think of the gun you'd buy for 40 Euro. Each of mine were nearly 15 times the price of that!

TestTransmission

xXCivicMadXx wrote: »

more i have the more ill get answers

Please don't - threads merged

xXCivicMadXx

Cheers for all the info owen i really appiciate it. Where do you buy ur paint ... in a shop or online ???

Owen

I have my own mixing system, but any good motorfactors should be able to mix paint for you.

xXCivicMadXx

Cheers man

xXCivicMadXx

Owen wrote: »

I have my own mixing system, but any good motorfactors should be able to mix paint for you.

How much does paint cost

Owen

Generally about 100 a litre for mixed colours.

xXCivicMadXx

Owen wrote: »

Generally about 100 a litre for mixed colours.

Would a liter do much on a car

Owen

Not a whole lot. You'd realistically need about 3 litres do properly do a car IMHO. And that's just base coat. You'd need a lot of primer, and a lot of lacquer too.

xXCivicMadXx

Owen wrote: »

Not a whole lot. You'd realistically need about 3 litres do properly do a car IMHO. And that's just base coat. You'd need a lot of primer, and a lot of lacquer too.

Wow starting off is going to be Expensive

Owen

Sure is. Before you start, on paints alone you're going to be looking close to 300 ish, and you're also going to need a feck load of other stuff too, panel wipe - there's another 60 quid, thinners, about 30 quid, polish, machine polisher, lots of masking tape - 50 ish, plastic sheeting - 50 euro too, roll of scotchbrite - 40 euro, a mountain of sandpaper in different grades, and somewhere warm and dry to paint everything.

That's before you buy guns too, or a sanders, or heat guns/heat lamps. I can't see you getting out of it for less than 1k by the time you're done TBH. That's normally why people just give it to a body shop and pay 2k.

xXCivicMadXx

Owen wrote: »

Sure is. Before you start, on paints alone you're going to be looking close to 300 ish, and you're also going to need a feck load of other stuff too, panel wipe - there's another 60 quid, thinners, about 30 quid, polish, machine polisher, lots of masking tape - 50 ish, plastic sheeting - 50 euro too, roll of scotchbrite - 40 euro, a mountain of sandpaper in different grades, and somewhere warm and dry to paint everything.

That's before you buy guns too, or a sanders, or heat guns/heat lamps. I can't see you getting out of it for less than 1k by the time you're done TBH. That's normally why people just give it to a body shop and pay 2k.

:eek: Wow em i dont know what to do now ... wasnt expecting that ... i might just do wheels and save up the money i make off of that to pay for the rest since all me mates are boy racers ...

end a eknny

right ignore owens post unless you intend to become a professsional car painter. get yourself 2k paint and the sealey gold gun, paint the car and be happy

kdevitt

end a eknny wrote: »

right ignore owens post unless you intend to become a professsional car painter.

Or you want a half decent finish...

2k paint and requires a proper airfed respirator, and its not meant to be supplied anymore, so the OP would be using acrylics. They will need all the prep items such as sandpaper, scotchbrite, panel wipe, tack cloths and a DA sander. They will need filler, cheese file, primer. They will need the paint, thinners and lacquer. They will also need the machine polisher to bring up the gloss on the acrylic paint. Its not cheap to get all that.

The end result will only be as good as the prep work that goes into it - I've learnt that from experience. Am slowly building up my equipment here and will be doing some spraying, but have no intention of taking shortcuts.

vectra

end a eknny wrote: »

any good motor factors. 50l will do but it may take a bit longer stopping to let pressure build up. with that set up and first time i would take off doors wings bonnet lie them flat and spray one at a time

Well,
it's been a very long time since i sprayed any car or panel for that matter but I most certainly would not lay the panels flat when spraying them. I would hang them from something.
Laying them flat only increases the chances of dust landing on them.

Owen

end a eknny wrote: »

right ignore owens post unless you intend to become a professsional car painter. get yourself 2k paint and the sealey gold gun, paint the car and be happy

:rolleyes:

vectra

end a eknny wrote: »

right ignore owens post unless you intend to become a professsional car painter.

or unless you want to practice to become a Skip painter.:pac:

Dilbert75

end a eknny wrote: »

right ignore owens post unless you intend to become a professsional car painter

...or unless you plan to do a good job...

xXCivicMadXx

Cheers for all the advice... could anyone tell me if this page has any good paints

http://www.halfords.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/SearchCmd?srch=primer&department=all&action=search&storeId=11101&catalogId=15551&langId=-1#tab=1&pg=1&ppp=10&sb=sor%7C%7CPrice%7C%7C0&vw=list

end a eknny

what colour do you intend to paint it and where abouts are you
p.s ignore all the people making out that its some sort of rocket science. they would like you to go to a bodyshop and pay 40euro and hour for what by there own admission is mostly sanding and masking up. there should be no problem getting 2k paint. but if you cant synthethic would probably do and it would be cheaper

-Corkie-

end a eknny wrote: »

what colour do you intend to paint it and where abouts are you
p.s ignore all the people making out that its some sort of rocket science. they would like you to go to a bodyshop and pay 40euro and hour for what by there own admission is mostly sanding and masking up.

Facepalm.

end a eknny

-Corkie- wrote: »

Facepalm.

have you done much spray painting

-Corkie-

end a eknny wrote: »

have you done much spray painting

Loads..;)

end a eknny

graffiti doesnt count

Owen

This is the thread that just keeps on giving :pac:

mondeo

Its great satisfaction doing abit of spray work yourself, the hard bit for me is getting the laquered effect perfect. Wet sanding and compounding the bejasus out of the panels is hard work but lovely when they turn out right for you.

-Corkie-

end a eknny wrote: »

graffiti doesnt count

Owen wrote: »

This is the thread that just keeps on giving :pac:

No Graffiti around these parts Owen is there???:)

Owen

Definitely not Mal, but a whole load of bullcrap though

-Corkie-

Owen wrote: »

Definitely not Mal, but a whole load of bullcrap though

True. If only Enda knew all the spray painting I done in the D`outback..:)

xXCivicMadXx

Cheers for all the info it helps me out a lot

end a eknny

Owen wrote: »

Definitely not Mal, but a whole load of bullcrap though

so why do you keep spouting it then

end a eknny

-Corkie- wrote: »

True. If only Enda knew all the spray painting I done in the D`outback..:)

is there an outback in cork. are is this some reference to why the sheep in cork always look scared