Female rappers

Da Shins Kelly

Any good female rappers out there? I'm not into Nicki Minaj or Lil Kim and that kind of trashy style. I love Lauryn Hill, but it's been a long time since I heard anyone like her. I've always kinda thought that a lot of female rappers either over-sexualise themselves, or butch themselves up in order to make themselves noticeable - it's either be the typical "hoe" that some men talk about in rap, or act like a man.

I did find this girl. She's only 19, and I actually think she's really good. Her technique is great, and she writes some good lyrics. She's part of this wave of young people coming through right now. Quite an exciting time.

Does anyone else have any suggestions?

Rjd2

Jean Grae and Dessa are both very good.

Shapey Fiend

I don't really listen to many of them. Lady Leshurr is pretty technical. Her tapes aren't that exciting though like I listened to them a couple of times but there wasn't much to keep me coming back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o2VnRr0lts

Rjd2

I remember liking this lass last year as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQxKzmi2fHg

Bobby Baccala

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=channel_video_title

there you might like her

charlemont

Sista Soujah
Lady of Rage

Toi

Definitely check out Madd Mary. She's hip-hop in the style of MC Lyte and Lauryn Hill. You can download her free EP "The Kitchen Press" here http://whoismaddmary.com

ImGettinPaper

Nicki Minaj is a rapping genius, flow, delivery, lyrics. Also if you listen to her early stuff before she became big you will see what she is capable of!

Rah Digga is also one to check out.

Andy_rse

You should check out Dessa. I would post some links but im only on my phone. She ticks all those boxes that you are looking for and if you dig lauryn hill i think you will like her. Her album, a badly broken code, is excellent.

"it's been assumed I'm soft or irrelevant
cause I refuse to down play my intelligence
but in a room of thugs and rap veterans
why am I the only one who's acting like a gentleman" from her song the bullpen.

Boom_Bap

Dessa
Eternia
Bo$$
Lady of Rage
Bahamdia
Jean Grae
Rah Digga
Kalae All Day
Speech Debelle
Queen Herawin

Reminds me, must find more stuff by Kalae All Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5MYbs8eR1U

Dessa has a new record out as well, reworked version of A Badly Broken Code. She also has a new album of new material due soon.

As far as Nikki Minaj goes, my personal opinion here, she is a product rather than an artist, one style of delivery, one dimensional subject matter.......gonna stop myself here before I get too worked up....

ImGettinPaper

If you listen to her album you'll clearly know the many styles Nicki Minaj has!!

Boom_Bap

ImGettinPaper wrote: »

If you listen to her album you'll clearly know the many styles Nicki Minaj has!!

I have unfortunately heard most of it. There is only so much verses that I can bear that start with normal delivery, then fast, then that switch up on her angryish voice she does.

pragmatic1

Rah Digga and maybe Remy Ma. The rest suck.

ImGettinPaper

Boom_Bap wrote: »

I have unfortunately heard most of it. There is only so much verses that I can bear that start with normal delivery, then fast, then that switch up on her angryish voice she does.

That's what real rap is all about. I'm guessing you don't actually understand the art. Nicki is hip hop style of rap, the roots. She actually reminds me of a young Busta Rhymes and also reminds me of ODB. What age are you if you don't mind me asking??

Boom_Bap

ImGettinPaper wrote: »

That's what real rap is all about. I'm guessing you don't actually understand the art. Nicki is hip hop style of rap, the roots. She actually reminds me of a young Busta Rhymes and also reminds me of ODB. What age are you if you don't mind me asking??

Let's not get into the discussion of what 'real' rap is, that is a discussion which ends up going round in circles.
As for my understanding of the art, the letters M O D E R A T O R beneth my name would suggest that I was appointed as a moderator of the Hip Hop forum of boards.ie due to my understanding, love, appreciation and knowledge of hip hop.

I can see how she might remind you of a young Busta, but the thing that makes Busta so special is that you dont know what to expect from him, whereas with Nikki it is pretty predicatible even as far as her rhyme pattern. I do not see the connection to ODB at all. None.

And why would my age be of concern to you?

ImGettinPaper

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Let's not get into the discussion of what 'real' rap is, that is a discussion which ends up going round in circles.
As for my understanding of the art, the letters M O D E R A T O R beneth my name would suggest that I was appointed as a moderator of the Hip Hop forum of boards.ie due to my understanding, love, appreciation and knowledge of hip hop.

I can see how she might remind you of a young Busta, but the thing that makes Busta so special is that you dont know what to expect from him, whereas with Nikki it is pretty predicatible even as far as her rhyme pattern. I do not see the connection to ODB at all. None.

And why would my age be of concern to you?

Just out of curiosity, I was stereotyping but admit I was wrong to ask your age. She's like ODB because in parts of her rap she "sings" the words in a bass tone. Busta Rhymes also said after listening to ODB he realised how to rap and what the art is all about. As far as predictability I find her very unpredictable. Her energy is like that of Busta's and frankly she is a breath of fresh air. She is an example to all new age rappers on what they should be like in their own unique way. I mean she has a unique style (which has resonants of previous talented rap artists.) You could say what you just said now about any other rapper: their style is predictable. Obviously because it's their style. But if you gain further insight and listen carefully you will notice their style is unpredictable. And that's the characteristics of any good rap artist.

Da Shins Kelly

I'd be inclined to strongly disagree with anyone who says that Nicki Minaj is an "example" to new rappers or a "breath of fresh air". I don't see anything great about her at all. She's a product. All I think of when listening to her is a hybrid of Lil Kim and Lady Gaga.

The hip hop I'd be into is more along the lines of Lauryn Hill, not Nicki Minaj. Two very different people.

ImGettinPaper

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

I'd be inclined to strongly disagree with anyone who says that Nicki Minaj is an "example" to new rappers or a "breath of fresh air". I don't see anything great about her at all. She's a product. All I think of when listening to her is a hybrid of Lil Kim and Lady Gaga.

The hip hop I'd be into is more along the lines of Lauryn Hill, not Nicki Minaj. Two very different people.

I'm a fan of Lauryn Hill but the music industry today won't produce anything like that. Times have changed. Rap is a big business now wether anyone likes it or not. At least Eminem and Nicki (among others) are adapting to the new age but also keeping it "old school" with the style of rap they have.

Da Shins Kelly

ImGettinPaper wrote: »

I'm a fan of Lauryn Hill but the music industry today won't produce anything like that. Times have changed. Rap is a big business now wether anyone likes it or not. At least Eminem and Nicki (among others) are adapting to the new age but also keeping it "old school" with the style of rap they have.

I don't have any problem with Eminem. I think he's a great lyricist, although I'm not a huge fan of his new stuff. Nicki Minaj is not even remotely old school in my opinion. She's a product through and through, and has nothing to say. That is not really the kind of hip hop I'm into. I don't mind hip hop that's made purely for partying (Dr. Dre, some of Snoop's stuff and such), but I don't find anything about Nicki Minaj to be particularly great, even in a party setting (which is the only setting in which she could ever really be taken seriously, in my opinion).

I don't think that something needs to be popular in order to be good. I think the industry is capable of producing someone like Lauryn Hill again (there are new rappers coming out all the time that are not products). What makes Lauryn so good is that she did something different. She went for a genuinely old-school sound, as well as mixing in soul and reggae sounds. Her talents as a singer, rapper and writer brought the whole thing together. She had the whole package in a way that very few others do. It might not top the charts like someone like Nicki Minaj, but it doesn't mean that it's not good or better than what's popular. Immortal Technique, for example, is not exactly marketable, but it doesn't take away from the fact that he's awesome and million times better than the likes of Nicki Minaj.

unitedrover

Cher Lloyd:rolleyes:

ImGettinPaper

Most artists want to make money. Look at Redman. He's a phenomenol rapper and has been "keeping it underground" for so long. But it's not bringin in the big cash. He's now going pop with his new album due out to make money.

Immortal Technique raps about conspiracy theories, not really my cup of tea. He's not the best of rappers it's just the subject matter leaves all the weed heads thinking about conspiracys and talking about it which spreads his work. Anybody could do that, it's not art.

As I said above listen to Nicky's mixtapes before she blew up and you'll see what she is capable of.

Also she has party tunes aswell - david guetta etc.

Andy_rse

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Immortal Technique raps about conspiracy theories, not really my cup of tea. He's not the best of rappers it's just the subject matter leaves all the weed heads thinking about conspiracys and talking about it which spreads his work. Anybody could do that, it's not art.



Also she has party tunes aswell - david guetta etc.

Not the best of rappers? Come on man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yso4e1YCE0

One of the best verses Ive heard in a long time. He does a hell of a lot more than conspiracy theories. You trying to say, Dance With The Devil, You Never Know etc arent art?

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Also she has party tunes aswell - david guetta etc.

Now that type of thing involves no art whatsoever!

In fact this is actually all I hear when listening to her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-riJ8Q3V4

Da Shins Kelly

ImGettinPaper wrote: »

Immortal Technique raps about conspiracy theories, not really my cup of tea. He's not the best of rappers it's just the subject matter leaves all the weed heads thinking about conspiracys and talking about it which spreads his work. Anybody could do that, it's not art.

Immortal Technique has some serious skills as a lyricist. If what he's doing isn't art, then what Nicki Minaj is doing definitely isn't.

Boom_Bap

The first 40 seconds of that parody video posted by Andy_rse is a perfect example of what I was trying to say about Nicki, she does the exact same change ups in her delivery in every darn song, rapid fire, to angry voice, to cutsie voice. This is what irritates me about her, some might say it grinds my gears.

ImGettinPaper

Boom_Bap wrote: »

The first 40 seconds of that parody video posted by Andy_rse is a perfect example of what I was trying to say about Nicki, she does the exact same change ups in her delivery in every darn song, rapid fire, to angry voice, to cutsie voice. This is what irritates me about her, some might say it grinds my gears.

At the end of the day I suppose it's a matter of opinion and it's hard to argue taste. I suppose that's one of the reasons this board is here. I fully respect all of your opinions.

Andy_rse

ImGettinPaper wrote: »

At the end of the day I suppose it's a matter of opinion and it's hard to argue taste. I suppose that's one of the reasons this board is here. I fully respect all of your opinions.

Exactly. Its good to debate these kind of things. But at the end of the day, listen to what you like and fu*k everybody else!

conor.hogan.2

Nicki Minaj is nothing like ODB. Shaking my head so hard that I broke my neck in a bad way hearing her compared to ODB or Busta.

I will not even comment on Technique not being "art".

Salt N Peppa have a good catalogue of music as does Lauryn Hill and M.I.A and some others. But very under represented in hip-hop and specifically and music in general especially good music.

Bodhisopha

Always felt Lady Sovereign was an underrated rapper.