Scotty Cameron OR Odessey

mark 2

Whats Better.

Jul3s

mark 2 wrote: »

Whats Better.

Depends.

0161allin

I know whats cheaper !!

danthefan

Ping.

Opics

They're putters. It's pretty much impossible to say which is better.

Omacron

The scottys are beautiful putters and its hard to walk by one in the shop and not pick it up to admire it. However its unlikely to make you a better putter I know 2 guys who had them and proclaimed to love them both low handicappers. We went to portugal and rented clubs there was no option for scottys only odessey 2 ball putters and they both got along very well with them over the course of the trip. Within a week of getting back they both had bought 2 ball putters and they still are using them so go figure. Its mostly down to personal preference but the scotty is a lot of money for what I think can be described as a classic design. If you definitely prefer the old blade like or anser style then the scotty is the best of that bunch in terms of construction and finish but its old technology. The two ball has hardly changed (apart from some fancy weighting options that few use) since launch and odessey have sold a lot of them I've found that even guys who change their drivers and irons a lot tend to stick with the 2 ball.

Myksyk

mark 2 wrote: »

Whats Better.

The one you practise most with.

stockdam

Deco1983

I genuinely believe that any higher handicapper currently using a blade style putter can instantly knock 2-4 shots off their handicap by investing in a 2 ball putter.

I do not work for Odyssey by the way:)

david

It makes very little difference if you putt with a Scotty or a Sledgehammer. Putting is about experience and confidence with your particular tool. I use a Ping 1/2 Craze-e (or something) which I found in my Pro's bargain bin for cheap, needed re-gripping - I bought it because I like how it looks; bright orange with a centre shaft! Confidence with how something looks is a big part.

dubber

Tried all the putters in a shop, two favourites were the Odyssey white ice DART and Scotty Squareback 2 ... as a poor putter myself, I felt the face balanced designs helped me quite a bit.

seanmc1980

david wrote: »

It makes very little difference if you putt with a Scotty or a Sledgehammer. Putting is about experience and confidence with your particular tool. I use a Ping 1/2 Craze-e (or something) which I found in my Pro's bargain bin for cheap, needed re-gripping - I bought it because I like how it looks; bright orange with a centre shaft! Confidence with how something looks is a big part.

+1 on this, if you have confidence and a consistant stroke it doesnt matter if you put with a shovel, ball will go in hole

HugoBr

that's just not true

maybe one style of putter will help give the op a more consistent stroke?

maybe one style of putter will give the op more confidence over the ball?Putter technology has moved on as well as technology in the other parts of the game

Some real lazy posts and careless advice on this forum in general

Rue11

Hi all, first time poster!

I'm after a new putter, something with a bit of weight in it.
I've used the odessy white ice blade and liked it a lot so was thinking of going down that route.

Is any one aware of a sligher cheaper alternative as I'm also looking to purchase a new 5 wood which is priority at the minute?

Cheers

Jasonw

Rue11 wrote: »

Hi all, first time poster!

I'm after a new putter, something with a bit of weight in it.
I've used the odessy white ice blade and liked it a lot so was thinking of going down that route.

Is any one aware of a sligher cheaper alternative as I'm also looking to purchase a new 5 wood which is priority at the minute?

Cheers

I have an odyssey 2ball ice white on adverts at the moment. very reasonable.

PRAF

mark 2 wrote: »

Whats Better.

Mark - very difficult question to answer. I use an Odyssey and I have to say that I like it a lot. You might prefer something else though. You just need to find the putter that's right for you.

As lots of the other posters have said, a great putter could probably putt with a shovel and still get it in the hole. For us mere mortals, technology can help. I prefer the mallets to the blade style putters because the mallets are more forgiving. Do your research online and then go try a few different models in a shop.

ps. Odyssey is way better

paddy angelo

hi all new on this site might be on the wrong subject but did anyone on the site buy ping k15 irons and if so how do they find them thinking about investing in a set

stringy

I have a 2ball white hot. Does anyone know if the inserts goes "dead" with age?

I recently bought a Yes Callie (really nice putter), but reverted back to my trusty 2 ball after 4 weeks as I just didn't have as much confidence in putts less than 10ft.

I think the time will probably come when I just buy a new 2ball!

mr.mickels

Modern marketing slogan for Scotty, and Odyssey

"We mightn't be any better than the rest, but we're the most expensive"

I presently use a 20 year old Ping Anser 2 and regularly play with another scratch player who has an ancient bullseye putter. Tis all in the stroke rather than the club, if you hit any putter correctly the ball will go in the hole.

dubber

I think it's different strokes for different folks (no pun intended) ... some recreational golfers can putt like demons with a rusty old blade putter from years ago ... some pros feel the need for belly putters.

stringy

mr.mickels wrote: »

"Tis all in the stroke rather than the club, if you hit any putter correctly the ball will go in the hole.

Yes but the club can help you improve your stroke, firstly with alignment aids (technology), and secondly some inserts help keep the ball consistently straighter off the face.

So if technology can help you hit the ball more correctly, the ball will go in the hole.

If you're good enough to have a pure stroke, then great. But the majority of amateurs need all the help they can get.

rafared

The choice of putter depends on the individual I think. I have a mate who goes through different putters at a rate of knots and hasnt found one he realy likes or can putt well with either. He has had scottys and odysseys as well as almost any other make you can think of and still would buy or trade putters what seems like every other week.
Personally I love the look of the scottys but they are too light for me. I have tried several and couldnt lag putt with them to save my life.
I noticed this problem in particular when the greens on a parkland course were very slow. Also Ive noticed a lot of low handicappers seem to think you have to putt with a scotty blade just because of their low handicaps.
They only thing that matters to me is if the ball goes in the hole or laggs it dead from the 3 putt range.
Currently I play with an Odyssey White Ice 5 which is a little half round mallet which I love and suits the links speed greens where Im based.
For parkland or slower greens I had a Yes mallet and it got the ball rolling lovely on the slightly shaggy surfacess.
IMO the only way to pick a putter is to Try before you buy. Get a few from a Proshop out onto the practice green and test them out to see what lags the ball best and gives you the highest percentage on those 6 footers.

mr.mickels

stringy wrote: »

Yes but the club can help you improve your stroke, firstly with alignment aids (technology), and secondly some inserts help keep the ball consistently straighter off the face.

So if technology can help you hit the ball more correctly, the ball will go in the hole.

If you're good enough to have a pure stroke, then great. But the majority of amateurs need all the help they can get.

I agree that there is a certain feel to some putters which suit some players, but on the whole, from my observations players place far too much emphasis on the equipment and not even nearly enough on the mechanics of their stroke. Putting is the most basic stroke in golf and the easiest to get right, if the putter face (any putter face) is square at impact with the right pace the ball will go where it should. Mostly these "aids" are unneccesary if a decent putting stroke is groved. While the alignment may be assisted by those putters you mention I don't fully agree with your second assumption at all, the only way to hit a straight put is to meet the ball square at impact, if the club is open or closed due to poor technique it doesn't matter what insert is in the putter face, that is just marketing hype, those putters with inserts will hit the ball in the direction it is aimed the same as all the other putters.

stringy

mr.mickels wrote: »

Putting is the most basic stroke in golf and the easiest to get right

I completely agree.

But....technology has advanced to allowed players get the stroke right, by making it visually easier.

I think you missed my point about the ball coming off the face. Developments in inserts have basically made a putter face more forgiving. The same way cavity back irons have made it easier to hit a ball than a traditional blade.

The point is that technology hasn't improved golf technique per se, it's given amateurs a better opportunity at improving.

To be honest I don't like the attitude that some traditional golfers have of saying that I'm using X club and hitting it way better than golferB is with the brand new X club. Most of the time they're not comparing like with like, i.e. a single figure handicapper vs an 18+ handicapper.

Technology is there for a reason - development.

Opics

paddy angelo wrote: »

hi all new on this site might be on the wrong subject but did anyone on the site buy ping k15 irons and if so how do they find them thinking about investing in a set

Yeah I think it may be in the wrong subject alright there buddy

mr.mickels

stringy wrote: »

To be honest I don't like the attitude that some traditional golfers have of saying that I'm using X club and hitting it way better than golferB is with the brand new X club

Why not? Does the truth hurt?
I stand by my observation that technology advancements in putters is little more than a marketing ploy. I had 27 putts again today with my old Ping, in a 4 ball, one player using the 2 ball odyssey putter was easily the worst putter of the lot, he was an 18 handicapper who wasted his money on a new putter, his stroke was awful and all the technology Scotty or Odyssey put into putters will do zero for his game until he grooves a good stroke, he was a typical example of what I see out there, the other 3 players were using older putters and doing fine, and none of us would have putted any better if we changed to his Odyssey.
I don't say older putters are better, but I don't think newer putters are better either. I can understand the technology advancements in drivers and irons, but in Putters its just highly profitable marketing in my view.

PRAF

There's no doubt in my mind that there have been technological improvements in putters in recent times. For example:
- Mallet putters with high MOIs which are more forgiving. Most amateurs can't hit the sweet spot of the putter every time. If you hit it off-centre, the mallet putter head outperforms the blade. Rather than leaving your lag putt woefully short, you'll have a better chance of getting it closer and avoiding a nasty 3 putt
- Long putters which are easier to make a pure pendulum type stroke with. These can help with stroke mechanics (and help cure the 'yips'). Look what its done for Adam Scott, Keegan Bradley, Webb Simpson, Jim Furyk etc.

Having said all of that, the best investment any golfer can make is to invest in a lesson every once in a while and then spend the time practicing what you've learned. A really good putter, with a solid and consistent stroke, could putt with a shovel and get it in the hole

stringy

mr.mickels wrote: »

stringy wrote: »

To be honest I don't like the attitude that some traditional golfers have of saying that I'm using X club and hitting it way better than golferB is with the brand new X club

Why not? Does the truth hurt?
I stand by my observation that technology advancements in putters is little more than a marketing ploy. I had 27 putts again today with my old Ping, in a 4 ball, one player using the 2 ball odyssey putter was easily the worst putter of the lot, he was an 18 handicapper who wasted his money on a new putter, his stroke was awful and all the technology Scotty or Odyssey put into putters will do zero for his game until he grooves a good stroke, he was a typical example of what I see out there, the other 3 players were using older putters and doing fine, and none of us would have putted any better if we changed to his Odyssey.
I don't say older putters are better, but I don't think newer putters are better either. I can understand the technology advancements in drivers and irons, but in Putters its just highly profitable marketing in my view.

Haha no the truth doesn't hurt me personally as I had 29 putts on pole forked greens and shot a 70 gross yesterday.

But I do honestly think technology will help players, maybe not give them the drastic improvement they want but it will make it easier for them to improve. That's all. Saying technology in golf does nothing to help or improve players is a bit of a nonsense really.