bit of shooting advice

kl619

alright lads I am knew to boards need a bit of advice ,im looking for a left handed rifle and am still not sure if i should get a .22 or .17 mainly only for rabbits but think I would like to do a bit of foxing if it came my way .Also was sold a slab of eley 28g no8s for pigeons for 40eur on advice from dealer went to another shop and was told Id be better of throwing stones,any advice would be great help thanks

tommyboy26

kl619 wrote: »

alright lads I am knew to boards need a bit of advice ,im looking for a left handed rifle and am still not sure if i should get a .22 or .17 mainly only for rabbits but think I would like to do a bit of foxing if it came my way .Also was sold a slab of eley 28g no8s for pigeons for 40eur on advice from dealer went to another shop and was told Id be better of throwing stones,any advice would be great help thanks

The .17 is great for rabbits and the odd fox ammo works out between 16-20euro for 50 compared to between 5-10euro for 50 .22 rounds.

Cass

kl619 wrote: »

alright lads I am knew to boards need a bit of advice ,im looking for a left handed rifle and am still not sure if i should get a .22 or .17 mainly only for rabbits but think I would like to do a bit of foxing if it came my way

Welcome aboard.

If you have previous shooting experience, even with a shotgun, you are fairly aware of the basics surrounding safety, etc. To that extent i'd be looking more at the .17hmr if you intend to go for the occassional fox. I would normally recommend a .22lr for all newbies, but usually they would include those that have never held or owned a firearm before.

The .17 would be flatter shooting, capable of rabbits aswell as the occassional fox out to 130 yards. Further for rabbits with practice. Ammo is not overly expensive but runs at least twice that of standard .22 ammo.

.Also was sold a slab of eley 28g no8s for pigeons for 40eur on advice from dealer went to another shop and was told Id be better of throwing stones,any advice would be great help thanks

I love those kind of dealers. If they don't agree with it its useless. No such thing as "you could get better", etc. I use 28g Eley 7.5s for the occassional pigeon. They are a great cartridge, but really only good at ranges out to about 30 yards. For the further shots you want a little more. however they are an excellent cartridge for clays also.

browning 12 bore

kl619 wrote: »

alright lads I am knew to boards need a bit of advice ,im looking for a left handed rifle and am still not sure if i should get a .22 or .17 mainly only for rabbits but think I would like to do a bit of foxing if it came my way .Also was sold a slab of eley 28g no8s for pigeons for 40eur on advice from dealer went to another shop and was told Id be better of throwing stones,any advice would be great help thanks

well i always use 8s on pigeons and crows no probs at all just have to give them more lead but those cartgriges are very fast bear that in mind and my advice is tight chokes i always use them 1 and 2s in both barrels or extra full chokes

garv123

you'l be suprised how many lefties are on this forum, like myself.

im after putting a deposit on a .17 hmr but its right handed. straight stock on it without a cheek piece so it wont be that bad as im used to firing a .22mag.

If you plan on shooting foxes either buy a .22 and later get a 223 or 204 for foxes.
if you cant afford that the .17hmr is good for foxes out to 150 yards plus, but shot placement is really important.

the cz 452 american is available in both .22 and .17hmr


the savage 93R17 BTVss is also available in .17 hmr. (also .22)



there the 2 i was looking at but didnt have the money for a new one and left hand rifles are hard to find. ring around and a dealer may order one in for you. lefthooker was selling his left hand savage .22 in the for sale/wanted section here too. could still be for sale.

id go for the .17hmr. flatter shooter and with practice can shoot rabbits at .200 yards.

ammo prices are .22 about 8 euro for 50 and hmr is about 16 for 50.

kl619

thanks lads kind of set on a .17 now doesnt seem to be to many second hand lefties about will probably have to go new,will have to give these no8s a go i have enough of them also anybody know any good shooting shops around east coast with plenty of stock clothing etc went to Jack Smyths in Newry today thought his prices were a bit much all though got soom good deals there before cheers for the help

garv123

kl619 wrote: »

thanks lads kind of set on a .17 now doesnt seem to be to many second hand lefties about will probably have to go new,will have to give these no8s a go i have enough of them also anybody know any good shooting shops around east coast with plenty of stock clothing etc went to Jack Smyths in Newry today thought his prices were a bit much all though got soom good deals there before cheers for the help

whats your budget for just the rifle with no scope?

Cass

kl619 wrote: »

....... also anybody know any good shooting shops around east coast

North East, East, South East?

....... went to Jack Smyths in Newry today

Was up there about 5 months ago. Seems to have gone almost completely away from the shooting side of things. Had an unbelievable selection of gear years ago. Has a great selection of clothing though, but as you said a bit on the expensive side. For fishing you'd be set.

kl619

garv123 wrote: »

whats your budget for just the rifle with no scope?

not to sure was lookin at a new cz on monday for 550eur not to sure which model it was though I like the look of the sako quad Id like to get a full set up for about 1000eur but would have to wait a bit longer to get the money up

kl619

Ezridax wrote: »

North East, East, South East?



Was up there about 5 months ago. Seems to have gone almost completely away from the shooting side of things. Had an unbelievable selection of gear years ago. Has a great selection of clothing though, but as you said a bit on the expensive side. For fishing you'd be set.

dont mind the bit of travel if its not a waste of time just hate gettin to shops that dont have much stock ur right about Jack Smyths great for fishing maybe not much of a market for shooters

garv123

kl619 wrote: »

not to sure was lookin at a new cz on monday for 550eur not to sure which model it was though I like the look of the sako quad Id like to get a full set up for about 1000eur but would have to wait a bit longer to get the money up

you'll get a very good setup for 1000 euro. does it have to be left handed? theres no recoil on a rim fire so you have one hand on the trigger and another in position by the bolt and reload right handed without taking your hand away from the trigger for quicker follow up shots.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056225856

lovely sake quad there within in budget and all the bits you'll need for cleaning

Cass

kl619 wrote: »

dont mind the bit of travel ..........

Give us a county. You'll get a good list of shops nearby. Then we can suggest shops that are further afield.

kl619

Ezridax wrote: »

Give us a county. You'll get a good list of shops nearby. Then we can suggest shops that are further afield.

yeah sorry about that Im in Dublin

kl619

garv123 wrote: »

you'll get a very good setup for 1000 euro. does it have to be left handed? theres no recoil on a rim fire so you have one hand on the trigger and another in position by the bolt and reload right handed without taking your hand away from the trigger for quicker follow up shots.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056225856

lovely sake quad there within in budget and all the bits you'll need for cleaning

Yeah seen that one already real nice setup looks good but I have shot righthanded rifles before just a bit slow and awkward getting the bolt action back for a second shot whats the best bet in a rim fire

garv123

kl619 wrote: »

Yeah seen that one already real nice setup looks good but I have shot righthanded rifles before just a bit slow and awkward getting the bolt action back for a second shot whats the best bet in a rim fire

using your right hand for the bolt and left for the trigger becomes second nature after a few shots. only time its a problem is when firing off the shoulder.

Cass

I think most are up to date and they cover most of the east coast and partially into the midlands. There are more further south, and west.

Tallaght Rod and Gun - Dublin
Cresent Sports - Monkstown
Fingal sports - Naul
Courtlough - Balbriggan
Griffin and hawe - Athy, kildare.
Hilltop - Newtownmountkennedy, Wicklow
East coast dog and gun - Gorey, Wexford.
John Kamber - Enniscorthy, Wexford
McCarthy's - prosperous, Kildare
Clarkes - Navan
McBrides - Athlone, Westmeath
Lakelands - Mullingar
Atlantic sports - Carlow
Mourne Clay shooting - Castleblaney, Monaghan
Tackle shop - Tullamore

lefthooker

I'm in the same boat as yourself, lefthanded. Have a lefthand thumbhole .22lr but when it came to buying my .17HMR I went for a Sako Quad, which only comes in righthand. As garv has already stated lefthand trigger and righthand bolt is now second nature.

kl619

Ezridax wrote: »

I think most are up to date and they cover most of the east coast and partially into the midlands. There are more further south, and west.

Tallaght Rod and Gun - Dublin
Cresent Sports - Monkstown
Fingal sports - Naul
Courtlough - Balbriggan
Griffin and hawe - Athy, kildare.
Hilltop - Newtownmountkennedy, Wicklow
East coast dog and gun - Gorey, Wexford.
John Kamber - Enniscorthy, Wexford
McCarthy's - prosperous, Kildare
Clarkes - Navan
McBrides - Athlone, Westmeath
Lakelands - Mullingar
Atlantic sports - Carlow
Mourne Clay shooting - Castleblaney, Monaghan
Tackle shop - Tullamore

Thanks fella good list will check a few out

kl619

lefthooker wrote: »

I'm in the same boat as yourself, lefthanded. Have a lefthand thumbhole .22lr but when it came to buying my .17HMR I went for a Sako Quad, which only comes in righthand. As garv has already stated lefthand trigger and righthand bolt is now second nature.

Will more than likely go down that road myself,sako looks a great job and gets good reviews can anybody recomend another .17 in the same league that does come in leftie and is there really much of a difference between a .22lr and a .17hmr at about 100yrds

garv123

kl619 wrote: »

Will more than likely go down that road myself,sako looks a great job and gets good reviews can anybody recomend another .17 in the same league that does come in leftie and is there really much of a difference between a .22lr and a .17hmr at about 100yrds

the .17 is a hornady magnum rimfire.

the .22 is travelling much slower and with sub sonic rounds its well traveling below the speed of sound. most people 0 the .22 at 50 -70 yards as it begins to drop like a stone after that. the .17hmr is flat out to 120
it packs a hell of alot more punch too.



im forever pasting this chart, it shows a good example of how much the bullets drop.
the 2 advantages the .22 has over the hmr is the price of ammo and the face you can moderate it with sub sonics and you hear almost nothing.

lefthooker

I can't fault the Sako, luv the look and feel of it. Oh yeah and its super accurate. Really like the flush fit mag too.
Only lefthanded rimfires i know of are the CZ 452 and the Savage 93R17 BTVLSS, which is a lovely rifle but as rare a rocking horse s**t. I know of a few righthanded ones but the lefties are impossible to find

lefthooker

garv123 wrote: »

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im forever pasting this chart, it shows a good example of how much the bullets drop.

I printed out this chart, did a few calculations and stuck it to my rangefinder. Give a quick range, reference it against inches drop and then dial in required clicks. Makes taking 200yds+ shots a lot easier.